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Monday, July 6, 2009

New Rules for Pike/Pine

Posted by Dominic Holden on Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:20 PM

After nearly a year of community meetings, public hearings, and studies, it would have been great to see the city council pass legislation last Monday that accomplished what the council set out to do: protect the older buildings of the Pike/Pine neighborhood as shelters for arts uses and nightlife. But after some developers balked (don’t hurt the value of my land!) and the law department squealed (we can’t limit the footprint of behemoth buildings!), the council passed a watered-down bill.

The Problems That Will Be Solved: Consider the QFC building on Broadway that faces Pike Street—a strip of shallow storefronts that house a Subway and an AT&T store on one block-long strip. What, no tanning salon? It’s upstairs. This sort of development conflicts with the auto-row warehouse architecture that defines the neighborhood. The new rules require that the face of a building can’t run more than a half-block along Pike or Pine Streets (no more imposing block-long buildings), nor could businesses use backlit awning signs or illuminated box signs (like every national chain retailer). This is good.

The Problem That Won’t Be Solved: Buildings over 75 years old—multi-story masonry warehouses and venerable auto-showrooms that are home to bars, galleries, an independent businesses—should be protected from demolition or being unrecognizably altered. The legislation was intended to do that, but the incentives are weak. Developers who incorporate a building over 75 years old into a new building are eligible for 10 additional feet of height (one extra floor) on the new structure. Developer Liz Dunn, who specializes in saving historic buildings, says that overall the bill was “a solid first step,” but she quickly adds that it delivers little incentive to save an old building from demolition. The cost of integrating an old building may be more expensive than the benefit of one extra floor, she says. Or a developer may only retain a couple walls of the façade rather than keeping the structure intact. “Then it won’t be successful in preserving character, which is the whole point,” she says. Dunn believes the council should enact a program that allows owners of short old buildings to sell unused height to developers who want more height in other areas (Rasmussen said city council staff is looking into it and he says more legislation is on the way). Dunn also believes that some of the finer older buildings should simply be sheltered from demolition. Chip Wall, a member of the Pike Pine Urban Neighborhood Council says, "It's not a smashing success but it's not a negative development overall."

The Other Problem: The Polyclinic lobbied hard to use the site of an 89-year old building on the corner of Broadway and East Union Street to expand its medical facilities. Neighbors including Dunn successfully pushed the city council to change rules for a parking lot that the Polyclinic owns nearby—outside the Pike/Pine preservation boundaries—so the Polyclinic could build there instead. But the council also amended the old-building’s zoning to match the Polyclinic’s (to allow six-story buildings). In other words, the City Council gave the polyclinic two sites instead of the one it needed and now risks losing an old building that neighbors fought to save. "That completely defeats the purpose," says Dunn. "A lot of people worked really hard with council to get other site to work for the Polyclinic." But Rasmussen says that the compromise—giving the Polyclinic both sites—was necessary to include a larger portion of the neighborhood in the preservation area. He says City Council Member Tim Burgess "had an amendment in his hip pocket" that would have shrunk the overall area of the preservation district.

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1
so they didn't pass the legislation to move The Stranger offices to Kent?
Posted by what a shame on July 6, 2009 at 5:21 PM
2
I like that Subway...

And there's also a nail salon and a teriyaki joint there. Hello?!?
Posted by disintegrator http://bottlevariation.blogspot.com on July 6, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Max Solomon 3
the Unreal America post broke the Slog
Posted by Max Solomon on July 6, 2009 at 5:56 PM
giffy 4
I really don't get the fetish people have for old rundown buildings. Just because its old does not mean its special.

Tear them down and build some tall dense buildings.
Posted by giffy on July 6, 2009 at 6:17 PM
Dominic Holden 5
@ 4) Just because a building is old does not mean that it's run down or useless (a mix of uses, rental rates and building styles are essential for density). It comes down to how a building functions. In a warehouse space, you can put in a night club, a big restaurant, a theater, a music venue, a loud bar. A city needs these things--it is the lifeblood of culture--and there are very few areas where they can thrive. You cannot build a noisy bar or nightclub inside a dense apartment building. Nonetheless, the bars promotes density around them. But without theater and art and music and food and all the wonderful things that people love in cities, there would be nothing worth living near, and then no incentive for density.
Posted by Dominic Holden on July 6, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Baconcat 6
@5: You aren't talking about turn of the century carbarns or old warehouses, you're talking about things that were built about the time your parents were born. They grew away from the multi-use functions of older buildings and warehouses to the point that they did away with pitched roofs and functional floorplans for what amounts to concrete piers under a flat roof. And Pike-Pine was never a true auto-row, either, those cinder-block buildings came up at the expense of dozens of older more classic buildings.

What you're proposing and what developers are proposing is a neighborhood of high rent floorspace with limited density. It's the same trick hand as they're playing with the mother-in-law cottages, pretending they'll serve some higher purpose when the reality is that they're subsidizing other uses by slipping them in with "green" or "new urban" projects. Just as the mother-in-law cottage proposal is to sneak back relaxed townhome regulations, the pike-pine corridor overlay is seeking to strip affordable housing rules and impose strict density controls so that density stays far enough below demand that prices shoot up. It gets around the city's previous attempts at mandating a certain amount of affordable housing by letting the market dictate price.

Just look at how the SCCC parking structure is sticking around, even with light rail coming in under a decade. And look at how the new rules protect it.

You think you're getting affordable and fun density, but you're basically complicit in what amounts to city-mandated inorganic gentrification.
Posted by Baconcat on July 6, 2009 at 7:05 PM
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baconcat - you got any more of that? studies? links to PDFs? are you in the "development community" or city gov? i'm a law student and interested in looking closely at zoning regulations. i get the jane jacobs perspective that Dom is pulling for--and i support it--but i am not sure whether/what kind of protected zoning pike-pine requires to stay the fun neighborhood that it is.

dunn's proposal seems a lot like the city's transfer of development rights program downtown. and it seems like the transaction costs involved in those schemes get pretty high pretty quickly. sometimes the people that benefit most in elaborate height swaps are the attorneys--not that there is anything wrong with that. but the city should certainly aim higher.
Posted by aff on July 6, 2009 at 7:31 PM
Will in Seattle 8
The only thing keeping building heights low on Capitol Hill is the elevation and the giant antennae and flight paths, IMHO.

That said, the final compromise probably does more to preserve the area than it might appear at first.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on July 6, 2009 at 8:26 PM
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@4: Hey! That's one of your Adam4Adam pics! :-)

I'm down with saving shit because none of the new stuff SO FAR is inspiring except for the Agnes lofts. If they suddenly started littering Cap Hill with awesome new architecture, I could be at peace with mowing down Linda's, et al.
Posted by Massive Attack on July 6, 2009 at 8:58 PM
10
If people wouldnt' buy ugly, they wouldn't build ugly -- maybe people in seattle just have poor taste and low standards?
Posted by native son on July 6, 2009 at 9:04 PM
giffy 11
@5, And yet as these places are losing ground in Pike/Pine they are gaining ground in Georgetown. What you really need is more lax zoning so you can have clubs and the like in more industrial spaces. Good clubs and art spaces are never in the high rent core of a city, they are in the spaces ignored and left behind. Trying to keep places the same use, is, in the long run, the best way to kill culture.

Look to Sodo, Beacon Hill, and Georgetown and places to encourage this kind of use.

@9 Adam2Adam? What?

And the places there now looked just as drab when they were built as the new stuff does now. Most decades see only a few really interesting buildings built. Don't confuse familiar with architecturally interesting.
Posted by giffy on July 6, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Fnarf 12
Old buildings are a necessary part of the mix, because only old buildings are capable of renting for the low amounts that make a diverse neighborhood use possible. The idea is to have a MIX. You're spot on here, Dominic.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on July 6, 2009 at 9:19 PM
13
all buildings should have subways and smoke shops

whats the problem here
Posted by Swearengen on July 6, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Will in Seattle 14
@13 - you can have a smoke shop. or you can have a subway.

not both.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on July 7, 2009 at 1:03 AM
15
As if Seattle doesn't have enough crosses to bear...now, it has to keep around a bunch of old crappy buildings that are firetraps.
Posted by Seattle Slew on July 7, 2009 at 1:12 AM
Greg 16
So how many of these old buildings have been retrofitted to meet building codes for earthquakes? Because old buildings packed full of people are great and all, at least until the ground shakes and the unreinforced masonry collapses and everybody inside is killed.
Posted by Greg on July 7, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Sir Learnsalot 17
Hooray for real reporting and information.
Posted by Sir Learnsalot http://ubiquitousthey.com on July 7, 2009 at 9:49 AM
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there is something very ironic about the Stranger cheering legislation that protects a ONE STORY buildings in the most dense neighborhood north of SF which currently house a bunch of expensive CARS that very few people can afford all in the name of protecting "character." Is it just me, or is there a hell of a lot of irony here?
Posted by dense on July 7, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Will in Seattle 19
@6 - SCCC, like all other community colleges, is normally exempt from many municipal and county regs - state colleges and universities operate under state law in a number of key ways.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on July 7, 2009 at 11:23 AM
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@4: sorry, meant @5
Posted by Massive Attack on July 8, 2009 at 3:42 PM

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