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Politics / Homo Headlines of the Day
Posted by Dan Savage on Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:05 AM
President Obama Fails to Quell Gay Uproar
Gay Activists Not Impressed With Obama's Move
Gay Rights Groups: Obama Needs To Do More
Obama Disappoints Gay-Rights Activists
White House Tries To Have It Both Ways On DOMA
Gays Critical of Obama Same-Sex Package
Obama's Effort To Help Gay Couples Falls Flat
Gay and Lesbian Leaders Say Federal Same-Sex Benefits Don't Go Far Enough
And the Lead of the Day from the New York Times:
The package of domestic partnership benefits that President Obama established for federal workers on Wednesday drew the loudest protests from some of those it was intended to help, gay men and lesbians who criticized the move as too timid.
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Still singing that one note. When this media attention goes away in a week no one will give a shit but you, Dan. It's a drop in an ocean of real issues for an elected official who will obviously be fine without your support.
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Good to see that the MSM is finally picking up on this.
It's taken the MSM a week since the DOJ brief last Friday turned up the heat of protest by actively attacking the nature of GLBT relationships.
Yes, a week is a pretty quick turn-around for the MSM to pick up on this - but it would have taken much, much longer had it not been for the efforts of Dan and others to keep this front and center.
Well-done, Dan.
The rest of us need to keep up the pressure on our elected officials and local media outlets to make sure that our concerns are not only addressed but that equality is granted for all.
It's taken the MSM a week since the DOJ brief last Friday turned up the heat of protest by actively attacking the nature of GLBT relationships.
Yes, a week is a pretty quick turn-around for the MSM to pick up on this - but it would have taken much, much longer had it not been for the efforts of Dan and others to keep this front and center.
Well-done, Dan.
The rest of us need to keep up the pressure on our elected officials and local media outlets to make sure that our concerns are not only addressed but that equality is granted for all.
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Keep at it Dan! So much for the supposed "liberal" NYT who clearly frames the argument as gays wanting more (imagine, equal rights) instead of challenging Obama's prior statements
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@ #8 - The NYT is historically anti-gay. They've gotten a lot better in the last couple of decades but most of that old gray animosity is still alive and well.
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@9 I just think it's funny when conservatives assume NYT is so progressive and liberal, yet they clearly aren't questioning Obama here, just like they didn't sufficiently question Bush in the lead up to Iraq. While sometimes their editorials may be somewhat left-leaning, the front page is just as bad, and willing to go along with what the administration is saying as any other MSM outlet
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You forgot this headline,
Mr Savage continues to manipulate people on Slog into emotional froths over gay marriage while the government continues to abdicate on the real issues that we as tax payers have sent to address, the education system, energy policy, health reform and the economy.
Mr Savage continues to manipulate people on Slog into emotional froths over gay marriage while the government continues to abdicate on the real issues that we as tax payers have sent to address, the education system, energy policy, health reform and the economy.
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And I trust that once the education system, energy policy, the economy and health reform are all done, LC, you'll be totally cool with repealing DOMA, legalizing same-sex marriage nationally, gays in the military, ending the HIV travel ban.
No?
No?
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Keep it up Dan. You have the platform, use it. I think the pressure needs to be directed at Joe Solomese and SDLN. That was a sickening response that Solomese gave on MSNBC. Obviously the administration is listening or this whole charade wouldn't have been so hastily organized. I am a gay sub vet and this response from the White House and the supposed gay leaders is insulting. Obama needs to suspend the DODT discharges now, until such time Congress can get HR 1283 moving. There have been over 250 discharges under DODT on his watch. These are careers that are being ruined, not to mention a ridiculous waist of taxpayer dollars. I can assure you that when the government needed soldiers and sailors before the troop draw down in Iraq, it had no problem issuing stop-loss on gay discharges. Now that the general stop-loss has been discontinued, the discharges have begun again. This is bullshit. These fundraisers have to stop now. They will only listen when the gay money drys up.
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@11 Ugh, Loveschild I don't need Dan Savage to tell me that equal rights should be for everyone, not just those who love those LC thinks it is okay for them to love. Waiting around and being patient isn't going to get a damned thing done. Had people waited around and been patient because there was other shit going on in the world you would still have separate drinking fountains in most states.
And, I'm sorry, but religious nutbugs just sound hypocritical when they claim that others are easily manipulated.
And, I'm sorry, but religious nutbugs just sound hypocritical when they claim that others are easily manipulated.
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12 Why you as the caretaker of a minor don't care to emphasize in your blog more on education, healthcare reform, you know issues that are not solely based on your needs, but gee also on those that concern the american public in general is something I cannot understand. Those are real issues that the next generation (minors now) will have to face if we continue to mess up on them. Do you care about the next generation Mr Savage? or do you only care to have yourself validated by your sexuality?
And FYI, I was happy to see the Presidential directive signed yesterday into law, and if it could've been done I would have liked to see health benefits afforded also to the counter partners of federal gay employees.
And FYI, I was happy to see the Presidential directive signed yesterday into law, and if it could've been done I would have liked to see health benefits afforded also to the counter partners of federal gay employees.
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Hey LC regarding 12. There was no law signed yesterday. It was a memorandum. This was a media event organized to make pussies like Joe Solomese happy. Guess what, it worked.
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It took a week but the mainstream media finally caught up...
and yeah, my mouth fell open when I saw the Seattle Times headline...EVEN the Seattle Times is talking about this shit.
Amazing.
and yeah, my mouth fell open when I saw the Seattle Times headline...EVEN the Seattle Times is talking about this shit.
Amazing.
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Here you go, LC:
I wrote that.
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archive…
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The United States is the only industrialized that does not guarantee health coverage for citizens. Only in the United States is health insurance tied to employment, only in the United States can a family face financial ruin due to a medical crisis, only in the United States would hard-working parents have to lose their home in order to save their child, only in the United States would a child know that his death would spare his family financial ruin. I don't understand how a party can oppose a single-payer-health-insurance program—Medicare for all—and still claim to be "pro-family." I don't understand how a party can stick employers with the burden of providing health care—which makes Americans businesses less competitive internationally—and still claim to be "pro-business."
Think of the financial and psychological burdens lifted from American families if they didn't have to worry about losing their health coverage. Even if you're not sick for a single day in your life paying into a national health care program would mean never having to worry about health coverage if you did get sick. It would mean never having to worry about your loved ones being covered if they got sick. People would be able to move to where the jobs are more easily, start over more easily. People would have more children, which the conservatives who oppose national health care claim to want. People would be free to start new businesses without having to worry about living without health insurance while they got their companies off the ground.
We've already got socialized fire departments, police forces, public schools, state universities, roads, defense forces, air traffic control systems and on and on. We need socialized medicine. And we'll get it if Democrats go on the offensive and start calling opposition to socialized medicine exactly what it is: anti-family.
I wrote that.
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archive…
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You are doing a great job, Dan et al. Please, please, please keep up the pressure. This nonsense has been going on for too long.
It is too late for them to offer platiudes. The LGBT's now deserve it ALL. No longer will another Democratic candidate for ANY position be able to use flowery language to play to the gay community then start to denigrate them ("incestous relationships"??) as soon as they get into office.
I've been making calls all morning and I encourage as many of you that can to do the same, right emails. Everything helps.
Pshaw, I say. PSHAW!
It is too late for them to offer platiudes. The LGBT's now deserve it ALL. No longer will another Democratic candidate for ANY position be able to use flowery language to play to the gay community then start to denigrate them ("incestous relationships"??) as soon as they get into office.
I've been making calls all morning and I encourage as many of you that can to do the same, right emails. Everything helps.
Pshaw, I say. PSHAW!
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Obama has a same-sex package? Does Michele know? Maybe now I'm starting to understand his problem.
"Rental Truck Memo" was a new term coined by MauraHennessey over at Pam's House Blend.
"Rental Truck Memo" was a new term coined by MauraHennessey over at Pam's House Blend.
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I was so going to ignore Lovechild in this thread. I was. Really. But "as the caretaker of a minor"? How about "as a parent"? Could you minimize Dan's parent-child relationship any more than by calling him a "caretaker"? Do you, in your heart of hearts, not see Dan as a parent to his son, because he's not biologically his (i.e., gays can't really be parents)? You need to check your head, girl.
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What's with all these people (namely, loveschild and will) who are so bewildered that Dan focuses on gay issues? What is so confusing about a gay blogger talking about gay issues on his gay blog?
Like I said before; it's akin to walking into a shoe store and yelling at them because they don't sell other important things, like groceries. That, and Dan does touch on other issues quite a bit; he just doesn't focus on them because, well, which issue do you expect a gay sex advice columnist to choose as his political area of expertise? Zoning laws?
Like I said before; it's akin to walking into a shoe store and yelling at them because they don't sell other important things, like groceries. That, and Dan does touch on other issues quite a bit; he just doesn't focus on them because, well, which issue do you expect a gay sex advice columnist to choose as his political area of expertise? Zoning laws?
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@21 Good job on writing the letters.
We all need to keep the heat on our politicians. They don't do anything unless it means they will loose out on donations and votes. Let's use those factors and encourage our straight friends and family to write in with support for the LGBT community.
It's time to organize and demand our rights.
protestforhumanrights.com
We all need to keep the heat on our politicians. They don't do anything unless it means they will loose out on donations and votes. Let's use those factors and encourage our straight friends and family to write in with support for the LGBT community.
It's time to organize and demand our rights.
protestforhumanrights.com
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good afternoon kim, everybody. And Lurleen, I nearly lost a sip of coffee over the Rental Truck line.
"The White House Tries to Have It Both Ways" is a pretty good headline too.
Both ways?
Really?
Which ways would those be?
"The White House Tries to Have It Both Ways" is a pretty good headline too.
Both ways?
Really?
Which ways would those be?
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I mean, really, I'm trying to understand what it's like to sign onto the same gay blog, day after day, written by the same gay activist, and yet never catch the fucking hint that he just might be blogging about gay issues again today.
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So Dan has shrieked loud and long enough and the MSM has noticed?!
Dan must have cum all over himself at that!
America likes Obama.
America knows the country faces serious challenges.
America sees Obama trying to address them.
America likes Obama.
America will see this as Obama giving the Gays something and getting slapped in return.
America will see the Gays as spoiled ungrateful self-indulged unpleaseable whining bitch pussies.
America is not dumb.
Dan must have cum all over himself at that!
America likes Obama.
America knows the country faces serious challenges.
America sees Obama trying to address them.
America likes Obama.
America will see this as Obama giving the Gays something and getting slapped in return.
America will see the Gays as spoiled ungrateful self-indulged unpleaseable whining bitch pussies.
America is not dumb.
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Julie @ 24,
I thought her "caretaker of a minor" was an upgrade from "surrogate", that she used a few weeks ago. She's against members of the LGBT community being parents, and supports change in adoption laws to prevent them from adopting (and I'm guessing also their becoming foster parents as well).
I thought her "caretaker of a minor" was an upgrade from "surrogate", that she used a few weeks ago. She's against members of the LGBT community being parents, and supports change in adoption laws to prevent them from adopting (and I'm guessing also their becoming foster parents as well).
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Good work giving Obama Hell, Dan!
Way to go!
You are worth more to the GOP than 12 Senators would be.
Way to go!
You are worth more to the GOP than 12 Senators would be.
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The bizarre thing is the real headlines of the day have to do with 70 percent of Americans wanting single-payer national healthcare and 66 percent of Americans wanting single-payer nationalized healthcare.
But, hey, live in your dream world of online commenting and ignore what is being decided right now in DC - where the lobbyists are trying to give you no same-sex medical partner benefits in an industry-backed plan that is basically tax cuts for the rich and ultra-rich.
But, hey, live in your dream world of online commenting and ignore what is being decided right now in DC - where the lobbyists are trying to give you no same-sex medical partner benefits in an industry-backed plan that is basically tax cuts for the rich and ultra-rich.
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@34 yeah, that is interesting, I could have read about that somewhere else ... but I came here to read about LGBT related articles. I go elsewhere to read about other items in the news. So go somewhere else if that is what you want to read about and shut up about it already.
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Will, here's a little hint: it's possible to read multiple blogs and newspapers. So you can read about both health care AND gay issues; just not necessarily from the same gay issue-oriented blog. Similarly, the government can address both, even if not during the same week (although they seem to be putting in a lot of time and effort towards empty gestures to the gay community).
I'm going to let you in on a little secret: environmental issues are even more important to me than gay issues, but you wouldn't know that from what I say on slog. Why? Because the cool thing about having half a brain is that I know not to expect Dan to devote as much text to environmental issues, because he's not an ecologist or a climatologist. So I read about those issues ELSEWHERE, and I don't comment on every damn thread here about how gay activists need to talk more about ocean acidification.
To reiterate: I read slog to read about gay issues (and stoned cats, apparently). I read environmental blogs and primary journals to read about environmental issues. I read newspapers to read about international conflict. In short, I go to different sources for different subjects (weird, I know).
I'm also capable of grasping the concept that just because environmental issues are critically important does not mean that other issues (like gay rights and, yes, health care) must therefore be unimportant. So you don't see me here trivializing gay rights like a douche bag. You see, MULTIPLE issues can be important. Luckily, there are MULTIPLE journalists and bloggers out there. Each one can focus on a different important issue; the one where they hold the most expertise.
Want to read about health care? Here:
http://www.thehealthcareblog.com/
Click on that blue text there. It will take you to a different website, one that talks about health care. So you can read about gay issues from a gay blogger, and health care issues from bloggers who work with health care. Just like the rest of us! And then maybe you can stop shitting up all the threads!
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I'm going to let you in on a little secret: environmental issues are even more important to me than gay issues, but you wouldn't know that from what I say on slog. Why? Because the cool thing about having half a brain is that I know not to expect Dan to devote as much text to environmental issues, because he's not an ecologist or a climatologist. So I read about those issues ELSEWHERE, and I don't comment on every damn thread here about how gay activists need to talk more about ocean acidification.
To reiterate: I read slog to read about gay issues (and stoned cats, apparently). I read environmental blogs and primary journals to read about environmental issues. I read newspapers to read about international conflict. In short, I go to different sources for different subjects (weird, I know).
I'm also capable of grasping the concept that just because environmental issues are critically important does not mean that other issues (like gay rights and, yes, health care) must therefore be unimportant. So you don't see me here trivializing gay rights like a douche bag. You see, MULTIPLE issues can be important. Luckily, there are MULTIPLE journalists and bloggers out there. Each one can focus on a different important issue; the one where they hold the most expertise.
Want to read about health care? Here:
http://www.thehealthcareblog.com/
Click on that blue text there. It will take you to a different website, one that talks about health care. So you can read about gay issues from a gay blogger, and health care issues from bloggers who work with health care. Just like the rest of us! And then maybe you can stop shitting up all the threads!
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Hey will, when you go to that health care blog I linked you to, are you going to post in all their comments about DADT and DOMA?
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I guess people like Loveschild and her ilk think that Civil Rights for African Americans, women and others also shouldn't have passed when they did, right? For example in 1964 when the Civil Rights Act was forced through Congress not only were we dealing with poverty and education reform, we also had the Cold War, a president had just been assassinated, a major earthquake in Alaska, huge anti-war demonstrations, unrest and revolution (some orchestrated by the US) around the globe, etc, etc, etc...
If Civil Rights always had to wait until everything else was perfect the only free people in the "land of the free" would be straight rich white men.
If Civil Rights always had to wait until everything else was perfect the only free people in the "land of the free" would be straight rich white men.
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@35 - if I wanted to read those I'd get The Advocate.
I always liked the back page of that, actually.
I always liked the back page of that, actually.
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So how do you think those headlines play east of the Cascades or west of the Hudson Valley?
I'll bet Rahm knows.
I'll bet Rahm knows.
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@11 Of course you'd be more concerned about health reform. Being black you are going to need a government teat to duck off of when I come for you.
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@ 38, Absolutely true. Why wait for "the right moment" to get equality for all?
And @ 16 "Those are real issues (...education, healthcare reform, you know issues that are not solely based on your needs...) that the next generation (minors now) will have to face if we continue to mess up on them. Do you care about the next generation Mr Savage? or do you only care to have yourself validated by your sexuality?"
I take it then that ALL of today's minors are growing up in het households, NONE have been or are being affected by the basic rights denied their parents, and SURELY none of them would dare to grow up to be in meaningful same sex relationships. So yeah LC, this is all about Savage and his personal needs, and no one else will ever benefit.
Get the other half of your brain and use it!
And @ 16 "Those are real issues (...education, healthcare reform, you know issues that are not solely based on your needs...) that the next generation (minors now) will have to face if we continue to mess up on them. Do you care about the next generation Mr Savage? or do you only care to have yourself validated by your sexuality?"
I take it then that ALL of today's minors are growing up in het households, NONE have been or are being affected by the basic rights denied their parents, and SURELY none of them would dare to grow up to be in meaningful same sex relationships. So yeah LC, this is all about Savage and his personal needs, and no one else will ever benefit.
Get the other half of your brain and use it!
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