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Religion The Future of He/She
Posted by Charles Mudede on Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:42 PM
The idea that attracts me to the continental philosopher of the moment, Quentin Meillassoux...
...that God does not exist, but He/She might exist in the future. That idea solves all of my theological problems. It is the right or best way to think about the big other.
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You can't get something out of nothing.
Therefore you had to have something, before there was all this something we can see and touch, and that something is called god.
Therefore you had to have something, before there was all this something we can see and touch, and that something is called god.
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@1 which only begs the question "where did that something come from?" Jesus if you are just going to refute yourself, why bother speaking at all.
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Hm, yeah, I don't buy "god might exist in the future." That doesn't make sense. I'm more of the pantheist belief that everything in the universe is the body of 'god', every person, tree, atom, galaxy is a part of the unknowable whole, and is also therefore divine.
Rudy Rucker, on the otherhand, believes that "Everything is Alive" (.pdf) -- which is also true.
Rudy Rucker, on the otherhand, believes that "Everything is Alive" (.pdf) -- which is also true.
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This is Historical Mormonism at play.
And...this God then becomes a political figure. A title to be obtained. And that title, God, can ever only be Authoritarian in nature, and therefore, evil.
And...this God then becomes a political figure. A title to be obtained. And that title, God, can ever only be Authoritarian in nature, and therefore, evil.
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HE/SHE GETTIN' MONEY LIKE NANANANANA.
KARLES KNOWS WHERE NOTHING COMES FROM. IT IS THE SPECIAL FEELING OF THE POOR. HE AND NOTHING SHARED AN ELEVATOR SHAFT AND MUSHROOMS AND STUFF FOR YRS. ITS ALL IN HIS BOOKS.
KARLES KNOWS WHERE NOTHING COMES FROM. IT IS THE SPECIAL FEELING OF THE POOR. HE AND NOTHING SHARED AN ELEVATOR SHAFT AND MUSHROOMS AND STUFF FOR YRS. ITS ALL IN HIS BOOKS.
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Charles, you should read Charles Stross' Singularity Sky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity…
God is an AI who awakes and then proclaims:
I am the Eschaton. I am not your God.
I am descended from you, and exist in your future.
Thou shalt not violate causality within my historic light cone. Or else.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity…
God is an AI who awakes and then proclaims:
I am the Eschaton. I am not your God.
I am descended from you, and exist in your future.
Thou shalt not violate causality within my historic light cone. Or else.
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@1:
Tell that to the trolls, who regularly manage to pull asinine opinions out of complete nothingness.
Tell that to the trolls, who regularly manage to pull asinine opinions out of complete nothingness.
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@15 - Stross is a horrible sci-fi writer. Singularity sky was a an absolute slog to get through and I wouldn't recommend it. However his concepts around the Festival and the Eschaton are quite tasty, if poorly executed.
If you're gunna go for singularity sci-fi, it's gotta be Vernor Vinge, end of story. Hell, he invented the idea.
If you're gunna go for singularity sci-fi, it's gotta be Vernor Vinge, end of story. Hell, he invented the idea.
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