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Wednesday, June 17, 2009

Barney Frank: DOMA Brief "Big Mistake," Won't You Please Clarify Your Position On DOMA, Mr. President?

Posted by on Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:28 AM

Finally.

U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, one of the nation’s leading gay rights champions, blasted President Obama yesterday over a controversial anti-gay marriage court filing and is calling on the commander in chief to explain himself.

“I think the administration made a big mistake. The wording they used was inappropriate,” Frank (D-Newton) said of a brief filed by Obama’s Department of Justice that supported the Defense of Marriage Act.

The DOJ brief, which has touched off a firestorm of anger in the gay community, argued that states should not have to recognize same-sex marriages from other states, just as states don’t have to recognize incestuous marriages or unions involving underage girls.

“I’ve been in touch with the White House and I’m hoping the president will make clear these were not his views,” Frank said.

Frank goes on to say that he doesn't think gays and lesbians should pull out of next week's DNC fundraiser: “I think it’s a mistake to deny money to the DNC.” DNC Treasurer Andrew Tobias agrees—unsurprisingly—and adds that he doesn't believe "this debacle of a brief [represents] the president’s views." But we haven't heard from the president yet, Andrew, so who really knows? The president has ignored Rep. Polis's request for a statement disavowing the DOMA brief—leaving Polis fuming—and the White House has taken no action on Frank's request for a clarification about the "president's views."

And at this point... does anyone give a flying fuck about the president's personal views? The president's personal view is that DADT should be scrapped... but the president refuses to act. The president's personal view is that DOMA is an "abhorrent" law... but the president allowed his DoJ to defend DOMA in the vilest possible terms and most damaging possible way. The president's personal views are worthless so long as the president refuses to take public, political stands based on those views. The president's personal views are worthless so long as the president insists on swanning around the White House acting like he's powerless to do anything about public policy.

And, yes, the president can't do it alone. He has to pull Congress along with him. Which is why the president, in his letter to the gay community during the campaign, said this:

As your President, I will use the bully pulpit.... But having the right positions on the issues is only half the battle. The other half is to win broad support for those positions. And winning broad support will require stepping outside our comfort zone. If we want to repeal DOMA, repeal Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, and implement fully inclusive laws outlawing hate crimes and discrimination in the workplace, we need to bring the message of LGBT equality to skeptical audiences as well as friendly ones—and that’s what I’ve done throughout my career.

Gee, has anyone seen the president bringing the message of LGBT equality to the skeptical audience that is Congress? Has the president been stepping outside his comfort zones? Because right now all I see is members of Congress—Baldin, Polis, Frank—begging our "fierce advocate" to "clarify his views" on DOMA. President Obama campaigned on repealing DOMA and, again, described the DOMA as an "abhorrent" law and five months into his presidency Barney Frank is having to beg the president to pretty please tell us what he really thinks about DOMA.

Fucking pathetic.

 

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Cato the Younger Younger 1
God, Im starting to hate the Democrats as much as I hate the Republicans at this point.....
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on June 17, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Carollani 2
Grrrrrr. I'm getting so pissed off about this. Remember when Hillary gave full benefits to same sex partners within the office of Secretary of State as one of her very first acts on the job? That was awesome. Can we have a do-over?
Posted by Carollani http://twitter.com/carollani on June 17, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Julie in Eugene 3
Polling has show public support for gays in the military at 75% and above for the past four years. So, winning "broad support for those positions"? Done. Why no action on DADT? The support is there. He wouldn't need to spend political capital. If not an executive order suspending enforcement, then how about working to convince Congress for its repeal? Can he not find the bully pulpit?
Posted by Julie in Eugene on June 17, 2009 at 9:44 AM
devilsmoke 4
Have any of our not-gay congresspeople had anything to say about this? It'd be a nice show of support of gay rights, and would reinforce in the public mind the fact that you don't have to be directly affected by DOMA to support its repeal.
Posted by devilsmoke on June 17, 2009 at 9:48 AM
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I propose that we send thousands of "Comfort Wipe" wands to the White House. After all, we're being treated like shit, so they might as well not get their hands dirty when brushing us aside.
Posted by Jakey on June 17, 2009 at 9:52 AM
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Yes, Dan, Obama campaigned on repealing DOMA which is totally different than overturning it in the courts.

But aside from being inflammatory/hurting people's feelings, how was the DOMA brief written "damaging"? How much do you really know about the case at hand?

http://www.bilerico.com/2009/06/thoughts…
Posted by Kevin Erickson on June 17, 2009 at 9:59 AM
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Carollani: do you honestly think either one of these two things:

1) That Hillary Clinton decided that all on her own and that the order didn't come from higher than her (being that the State Department is in, duh, the Executive Branch) and that
2) Hillary would be even one IOTA braver, smarter, or bolder in speaking out for the rights of GLBT people?

If so... damn.
Posted by DenseMuch? on June 17, 2009 at 10:01 AM
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Damn, I'm surprised dan didn't drop the Barney Fag bomb.

So allow me to drop the Barney House Faggot bomb then.

Thanks, Dan.
Posted by Chitown Kev on June 17, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Baconcat 9
@2: Ah, the wife of the man who got us into this mess.
Posted by Baconcat on June 17, 2009 at 10:32 AM
michael strangeways 10
I think Baconcat is referring to Lady MacBeth...

"Out, out damn spot..."
Posted by michael strangeways http://www.seattlegayscene.com/ on June 17, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Vince 11
I don't think he likes us. But our money he loves.
Posted by Vince on June 17, 2009 at 11:24 AM
12
Glad to see Barney Frank thinks that the DNC should still get your money while they restrict your civil rights. I bet a lot of gay people will go along with it also.
Posted by Pex on June 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Urgutha Forka 13
Perhaps our president has been zapped by the republican's orbital mind-control lasers?
Somebody get him a foil hat, quickly!
Posted by Urgutha Forka on June 17, 2009 at 11:56 AM
14
He didn't blast the President. He covered his ass with the community...after 6 days of silence.
Some interesting thoughts on the subject from some guy who used to work for Gerry Studds....
http://mtmbloglife.wordpress.com/2009/06…
Posted by Mark F Boston on June 17, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Carollani 15
@7: Yes. Of course I do. Hillary has a great history with LGBT persons and rights. If it wasn't Hillary's decision to grant those rights to her office then why wouldn't it have been ordered and enacted in OTHER executive offices? Jesus Christ. See, this is why it's not productive for people to say, "there's no difference between these candidates" in a race. There ARE differences, big ones. Hillary is a friend to gay people, Hillary ACTUALLY believes in public health care, and Obama... does... not. The proof is in the pudding.
Posted by Carollani http://twitter.com/carollani on June 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Cascadian 16
Carollani is in denial if (s)he thinks that Hillary Clinton would be any better on any issue, including gay rights. DADT was Bill Clinton's idea, remember. The Clintons also pushed a very weak health care proposal in 1993 that left the insurance companies in charge of the system. On policy, I have never seen much of a difference between Obama and Hillary Clinton.
Posted by Cascadian on June 17, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Mittens Schrodinger 17
@6-How can you not see a comparisons between gay marriage and incest, and pedophilia as damaging? You're right that it is inflammatory and insulting, but that doesn't mean it's not also damaging to the whole gay marriage equality movement. Can you not see that? It seems that in every post you are arguing semantics about expectations of the president and the reality of his actions, which I think is fine, but you seem to be getting awfully close to pedantic hair-splitting here.
Posted by Mittens Schrodinger on June 17, 2009 at 2:05 PM
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One: could care less about an apology or what he "has to say" - its his DOJ, rescind the brief. Period. Even if you want to argue they had to defend, he could just go after procedural grounds, instead of offensive arguments.

And Eric, have read much of it. Besides giving voice to the positions of the far right, he argues we AREN'T discriminated against. That is fodder against any future attempt he makes to change laws to address that.

It argues that marriage is not a right, that different marriage laws in different states does not affect interstate commerce, and that "traditional marriage" in one state cannot be challenged by that in another state - not only damaging for Obama (as a constiutional scholar) to make such as argument - but what is really outrageous is that these undermine Loving v. Virginia, the case that legalized interracial marriage across the US - Obama, our biracial president might care about that...
Posted by GCR on June 17, 2009 at 9:34 PM
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Barney Frank has already back-pedalled on his criticism of the DOJ brief in classic Barney Frank kiss-ass form. [With a nod to Michaelangelo Signorile] Barney Frank continues to perform as the happy househand on the Democratic Party plantation. He is such a gutless coward! For those who maintain Hillary would be better, let's not foget it was Bill who got us into this mess in the first place.
Posted by salemlawyer on June 18, 2009 at 8:22 AM

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