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News & ArtsTuesday, June 16, 2009
Housekeeping A Memo (and a Poll)
Posted by Bethany Jean Clement on Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:22 AM
Memorandum: At this time, Slog is on strike from giving these people (not the Pike Place Market fish guys—the fish guys are all right with Slog) any electronic ink, due to the fact that their bids for attention are just that, and so asinine as to be beneath consideration. Due to the strike, the poll concerning this matter (which, like all Slog polls, is scientifically sound and legally binding) has been placed after the jump, should you care.
Thank you. Now please enjoy this photo of a Pike Place Market fish guy from nineteen hundred and sixteen, courtesy of the Seattle Municipal Archives.
As you were.
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PETA is a bunch of sensationalist idealogues at this point. The entire world should just ignore them.
Wesboro was amusing and different in Seattle, even if it was scary in the way that all vocal bigots are scary. Wesboro would get just as annoying as PETA if I had to hear about them as often.
Wesboro was amusing and different in Seattle, even if it was scary in the way that all vocal bigots are scary. Wesboro would get just as annoying as PETA if I had to hear about them as often.
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For the record, coming from an area of small farmers, I dislike factory farms and feedlots on many different levels. However, PETA has even harassed small family farms in the past in their bids for attention. So I say, fuck PETA, A for sure, so as not to give them any publicity or build up their view counts on their pages.
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I voted no because sometimes peta's antics provide a good belly laugh. Peta in a way is similar to Rev. Phelps in that they are both attention seeking whores with a grudge against humanity. It is a good impulse to ignore either one, but sometimes you just need to swat away the little gnats.
8
Wow SLOG is really burning its bridges lately....President Barack Obama, PETA
Is slog PMSing or what
Is slog PMSing or what
9
of all the sensationalists to ban, how did PETA get to the top of your list? at least some of their stunts are funny or fact-based, unlike the insane fixation on pit bull rants (et c.).
sea kittens 4eva!
sea kittens 4eva!
10
I voted no, but now I want to change my vote, as I realized every time you post about PETA it just becomes a huge comment clusterfuck with people coming out of the woodwork to declare the deliciousness of animals and the idiocy and self-righteousness of all vegetarians. So please, don't ever post about PETA (or vegetarians, bicycles or pitbulls) again. Thank you.
11
I care so little about them that I won't even vote about whether or not to pay attention to them.
THAT'S apathy, folks.
THAT'S apathy, folks.
13
Old news #1: PETA's asinine antics. They've been embarrassing vegetarians with their ineffectual stunts for at least 15 years.
Old news #2: BJC's take on animal issues... and the whole "yummy meat" chorus. Zzzz.
New news, please.
Old news #2: BJC's take on animal issues... and the whole "yummy meat" chorus. Zzzz.
New news, please.
14
If CM rates attention, PETA rates attention.
'scuse me now, I gotta go throw dead sea-kittens at bike-bigots.
'scuse me now, I gotta go throw dead sea-kittens at bike-bigots.
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All of your links are broken. For some reason you put on all of them, so they don't load correctly.
As for attention? I guess I'm torn. If we're not willing to report on the news because we don't agree with their viewpoints or ways of spreading a message, that seems a little shitty to me.
But they are fuck ups, and I've been vegetarian for 10+ years now.
As for attention? I guess I'm torn. If we're not willing to report on the news because we don't agree with their viewpoints or ways of spreading a message, that seems a little shitty to me.
But they are fuck ups, and I've been vegetarian for 10+ years now.
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@10 but animals are delicious! Very very yummy in fact! THAT cannot be denied!
And yes... for the most part the majority of vegetarians are idiots when they start trying to be self righteous.
Thanks for reminding us to remind you!
And yes... for the most part the majority of vegetarians are idiots when they start trying to be self righteous.
Thanks for reminding us to remind you!
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@14
Tell me where you're doing that and I'll be sure to ride by with my mess bag open. For every dead kitten you get in there (it's a big bag too) I'll reward you with a random quote from Ulysses.
Tell me where you're doing that and I'll be sure to ride by with my mess bag open. For every dead kitten you get in there (it's a big bag too) I'll reward you with a random quote from Ulysses.
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Your last link is broken.
And PETA is about the worst possible representative for animal rights. I think they care far more about getting thier name in the press than actually helping any animals. Don't help them.
And PETA is about the worst possible representative for animal rights. I think they care far more about getting thier name in the press than actually helping any animals. Don't help them.
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I disagree that most vegetarians are idiots. The ones we hear from most of the time are, but the overwhelming majority are people who view it as nothing more than a dietary choice. Most of them would never dream of being so boorish as to lecture others about our dietary choices.
The thing about meat being delicious is worth repeating because so many of the noisy vegetarians and vegans try to make a wonderful thing such as eating into a heavy issue. At it's most extreme one vegan told me that he resented that we are creatures who have to eat to survive. I celebrate that we can eat just because it is a pleasure.
The thing about meat being delicious is worth repeating because so many of the noisy vegetarians and vegans try to make a wonderful thing such as eating into a heavy issue. At it's most extreme one vegan told me that he resented that we are creatures who have to eat to survive. I celebrate that we can eat just because it is a pleasure.
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Oh please. Stop giving people who actually do harm to society attention -- ending constant free praise and promotion to new pulled pork, beef burger, and foie gras restaurants is a good start.
ECB made a very good transition from the Seattle Weekly to a progressive media outlet, why can't you? BJC posts about food have been like reading Fox News since you took over -- no exaggeration. Please change your extremely conservative food politics.
ECB made a very good transition from the Seattle Weekly to a progressive media outlet, why can't you? BJC posts about food have been like reading Fox News since you took over -- no exaggeration. Please change your extremely conservative food politics.
22
We need to see more nude fish protesting the fish mongers.
Or giant sea cucumbers.
I'm not sure which.
I just hope, for the love of god, they don't decide to protest with giant fish puppets in the Fremont Solstice Parade this Saturday at Noon.
Or giant sea cucumbers.
I'm not sure which.
I just hope, for the love of god, they don't decide to protest with giant fish puppets in the Fremont Solstice Parade this Saturday at Noon.
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the overwhelming majority are people who view it as nothing more than a dietary choice.
I'm sorry, it's really not. Eating beef and pork is not a simple dietary choice -- every time you take a bite, you're making a socially conservative statement that you value tradition over the good of society (and your own life).
It's completely nonsensical that faux progressives advocate reducing car emissions and promoting renewable energy and don't mention meat, which is by far the #1 cause of global warming and habitat destruction.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0220/p03s0…
It's ridiculous that faux progressives talk about bettering public health and reducing health care costs by reducing smoking and drug abuse when they are downright healthy compared to meat.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10479…
I don't care about PETA -- they have become a joke (albeit an innocuous one). I do care about people like BJC hijacking progressive media with their conservative and regressive politics. Every time she makes a post promoting beef and pork and trying to ridicule people who promote any sort of conscience towards food, she is saying tradition is more valuable than social good. It's the complete opposite message compared to Dan's posts about gay marriage, Dominic's posts about drug policy, Erica's posts about the environment, or Eli's posts about health care reform.
25
Lizzie, you're obviously not in the overwhelming majority. We have made the appropriate entry in your file.
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#25, Duh, that's because America is the #1 consumer of meat in the world (per capita, by carcass weight) and we stubbornly hold on to harmful traditions.
Haven't you noticed how hard it is here to change people's attitudes towards gay marriage, women's rights, racial equality, drug policy, health care, car use, the need for war, etc?
If you were talking about the poll, I voted "yes" in the overwhelming majority, because BJC is not the person to be discussing food or politics on a progressive blog. If you can't say something that doesn't hurt society, it's better to say nothing at all.
Haven't you noticed how hard it is here to change people's attitudes towards gay marriage, women's rights, racial equality, drug policy, health care, car use, the need for war, etc?
If you were talking about the poll, I voted "yes" in the overwhelming majority, because BJC is not the person to be discussing food or politics on a progressive blog. If you can't say something that doesn't hurt society, it's better to say nothing at all.
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Whatever happened to PETA's ad campaigns with the naked supermodels crawling over each other? THAT is where the attention should be placed. I used to have one of those as my wallpaper.
Now all it seems PETA does is feed impressionable teenage girls' body image concerns. ...And foment the wackos that want to dump paint on your $1,000 suede jacket.
Now all it seems PETA does is feed impressionable teenage girls' body image concerns. ...And foment the wackos that want to dump paint on your $1,000 suede jacket.
29
I would like to declare my love of pinatas--i.e., beating an animal-shaped vessel with a stick until it produces food. PETA is like a pinata of hilarity and I generally support beating like the cardboard ass that it is.
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Problem is with PETA is well, they're fucking extreme.
Have dogs? You're an evil slave-owner, and you must set your dogs free (never mind that a Dachshund or a Great Dane will have a snowball's chance in hell surviving on their own).
Not to mention they're going through a court case over the fact they had killed over 2,000+ animals in a year, after duping several vets and small shelters who are facing overcrowding problems into thinking they'll find good homes. But nope, they just spend their money on a walk-in-freezer, kill the animals, then stuffed them in said freezer until they can dispose of the bodies.
SO THEY'RE HARDLY INNOCUOUS.
They're hypocrites, sexist (check out their banned super bowl ad, 'your mommy skins dead animals' etc.), Tasteless (like the ad release about a month after that horrible beheading on the bus), practically a cult, and encouraged violence in their "Animal Rights" campaign.
As for me? I do eat meat, and yes I do support animal rights - partially because I am an environmentalist overall (Yes cute as deer are they need their population to be kept in check), predation - flesh-eating is part of nature. It's just humans, being not that efficient of omnivores thought of a way to 'catch our prey' that doesn't expend our effort.
Sure, there should be much better ways to go about it then the disgusting factory-farms.
Have dogs? You're an evil slave-owner, and you must set your dogs free (never mind that a Dachshund or a Great Dane will have a snowball's chance in hell surviving on their own).
Not to mention they're going through a court case over the fact they had killed over 2,000+ animals in a year, after duping several vets and small shelters who are facing overcrowding problems into thinking they'll find good homes. But nope, they just spend their money on a walk-in-freezer, kill the animals, then stuffed them in said freezer until they can dispose of the bodies.
SO THEY'RE HARDLY INNOCUOUS.
They're hypocrites, sexist (check out their banned super bowl ad, 'your mommy skins dead animals' etc.), Tasteless (like the ad release about a month after that horrible beheading on the bus), practically a cult, and encouraged violence in their "Animal Rights" campaign.
As for me? I do eat meat, and yes I do support animal rights - partially because I am an environmentalist overall (Yes cute as deer are they need their population to be kept in check), predation - flesh-eating is part of nature. It's just humans, being not that efficient of omnivores thought of a way to 'catch our prey' that doesn't expend our effort.
Sure, there should be much better ways to go about it then the disgusting factory-farms.
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Remember, every time you eat vegetables, the plant literally screamed when you slaughtered it to feed your belly.
Don't believe me? Go check it out by asking an agricultural bioscientist.
Fascinating and true.
Of course, they're not sentient ... or are they? How would we animals know? Perhaps we're just innured to their plant-based pain, savage murderers that we are.
Now, algae, on the other hand, and seaweed, they're fine.
Don't believe me? Go check it out by asking an agricultural bioscientist.
Fascinating and true.
Of course, they're not sentient ... or are they? How would we animals know? Perhaps we're just innured to their plant-based pain, savage murderers that we are.
Now, algae, on the other hand, and seaweed, they're fine.
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