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Tuesday, June 2, 2009

Savage Love Letter of the Day

Posted by on Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:00 PM

I was just listening to Savage Lovecast 129, and I am writing regarding the trans teen who is on "lockdown" for having engaged in sex work and other behaviors. My heart breaks for this kid. Your advice sounds great from an adult perspective, but seemed an excruciating thing to tell a teen in crisis. You called her parent's punishments "aggravating" and told her "a year is not that long....take the long view." As an adult, I completely understand where you are coming from, Dan, but that kid probably didn't hear a word of it. Her pain was palpable through the phone/radio/itunes, whatever; it pierced me.

I ran away (for the final time) at 16. I do not recommend this; however, I did not do so stupidly and without a plan. I asked my best friend's parents if I could move in. I had a very mature, honest, sit-down conversation with them, where I explained why I could no longer live at home, told them I had a job 3 days a week at a pizza parlor and that I would pitch in what I could for groceries. They did not really have the room, nor did they completely agree with me (they are Jehovah's Witnesses, I am SO not) but they opened their hearts and home and displayed the kind compassion that changes a kid's life. I was able to live with them and complete high school.

From there, I rented a house with too many friends, attended junior college, dropped out, went back, fought with my friends, made up, and generally had great life experiences. I now have a career and family, and while I did everything "backwards" (had a kid at 19, married my husband at 23, got a college degree at 31) I do not for a moment regret leaving a home where I was tormented, taught to question myself constantly and forced to become a sneaky, lying person. Do I recommend running away and living under a bridge? No, but that is not the only way to leave home.

I am not transgendered or gay; I am pretty vanilla-straight. However, I feel for these kids. My mom could never accept who I was, she grounded me from the phone and my friends and isolated me from the moment I was 13. She belittled my sister and I constantly, punished us for imagined slights, hit us well into our teens. Because of her fear and distrust, I became sexually active (and promiscuous) long before I believe I would have if my mother hadn't been so incredibly controlling and abusive. I did every drug I could get my hands on; I was a classic head case. She has mental health issues that she still, to this day, refuses to treat consistently. She wasn't religious, I am not gay or transgendered, however our relationship mirrored that of so many of your teen callers in pain.

I cannot agree with your advice to this kid to stay home. Yes, as an adult with two kids, a husband, and a home, I can see where your advice comes from. It is the most financially prudent thing to do. However, a year IS an eternity to a kid in crisis. She may not survive a year, or that year may cause her to sink further and further into depression. (A depression which will then go untreated until she's 30 because once she moves out she won't have health insurance and this country is SO MESSED UP but that's another story.) At 16, 17, 18, you are not emotionally capable of "taking the long view" if you are in crisis. It is not healthy for her to remain in her current environment.

I encourage this kid to ask for help, to find adults who are willing to help. Look into foster care, even "unofficial" foster care in the home of a friend, a counselor, someone. A quick Google search for "gay teen runaway resources" came up with the following links (and many others):

http://www.lifeworksmentoring.org/usefullinks.html
http://www.lambda.org/youth.htm

Your caller sounds like she needs to get away, she regrets her previous choices and needs to get somewhere accepting so she can heal from her choices and experiences, find out who she is and get a healthy start on "real life." I hope, from the bottom of my heart, that she can find someone to save her. My friend's parents changed my life, and someday (when we have a house larger than 800 square feet filled with a family) I intend to offer rooms and foster care for kids in this situation. I wish SO MUCH that I could make that offer right now. I want that girl to know she is not alone and that she is a wonderful human and deserves to live with people who treat her as a person. I want to give her the permission to find an environment where she can live in mental as well as physical health.

Dan, I love you, I've read all your books, I love your column and podcast, and normally I agree with (almost) everything you say. However, I felt that I needed to speak up this time. I believe your advice was good and prudent, but hearing the desperation in that kid's voice—I just don't think you hit the mark this time. This kid needs permission to be herself NOW, not a year from now. I hope, hope, hope that she can find it.

April

 

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Smart posters - I had perfect parents by any standard. But, growing up I was ready to be my own person. At 13 I pronounced myself emancipated and worked a deal for very limited control over my life with my mom and dad.

It worked, I made almost all the decisions about my life, stayed out of trouble, went to school, into the Navy for a long and great career.

The point is that controlling parents, even the good ones, fuck up teens. At those ages becoming the person you are is of the utmost importance.

It is hard to offer formula for those years, but, saying stay and endure is not a plan.
Posted by Coffee Guy on June 2, 2009 at 2:20 PM
BombasticMO 2
What, no advice? Where's your comments?

I kind of agree, with the caveat that the kid shouldn't live on the street. And shouldn't get into sex work, even if there's nothing intrinsically unethical about sex work. It's just not a good profession for teens.

In high school, my straight best friend moved in with me and my lesbian moms. It wasn't the same scenario, but his parents were heroine addicts who didn't feed him, and he was sleeping in a closet.

He's now long gone, and I'm not even in contact with him, but I still feel getting him out of that situation was prudent and the smart thing to do. He slept on my floor for a few months until we got him a bed, and we eventually "fostered" him through the system, which hooked him up with benefits and programs that I was almost envious of (of course, considering the life he lived, not really).

If the kid needs to get out, they should get out. But they should do so safely, and in a way that gets them through school, into college, and makes them feel safe. And loved.

There are some shitty parents out there (you like to document them on this blog). Sometimes leaving is the only viable option.

Although I also wish 17 year olds would realize that life gets better. And 14 year olds. Etc.

Posted by BombasticMO http://www.BombasticMo.com on June 2, 2009 at 2:22 PM
ladyiconoclast 3
I am trans, and I know folks who work for the Ali Forney Center, one of the few LGBT homeless centers in NYC. There is a profound shortage of beds and spots available for folks. Dan is totally right, there are so many homeless trans and genderqueer youth, and so few resources for them. I know folks who have been there, and I wouldn't wish that life on anyone who had other options. I didn't come out till college, and have blessed to have enough family support that I was able to finish college and go on to grad school and eventually get a job where I am supported.

I guess the question for her is how safe she is at home, not comfort, but safety. If she feels that living at home is unsafe, like it is for many trans youth in this world, then I think she should get out. But if she is safe at home, then I feel like Dan is totally right, she should wait it out to save up the money and/or develop some skills that she can do something with for her life on her own when she leaves.

The laws are not friendly to kids who run away, being trans won't help.

I wish her all the best.

ps did you get any other replies to this topic from other trans folks who called in on later shows?
Posted by ladyiconoclast http://www.ladyiconoclast.com on June 2, 2009 at 2:55 PM
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a teenager "engaged in sex work" and the parents of that teen grounded them? oh, the horror!

Posted by OZ on June 2, 2009 at 2:56 PM
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a teenager "engaged in sex work" and the parents of that teen grounded them? oh, the horror!

Posted by OZ on June 2, 2009 at 2:57 PM
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a teenager "engaged in sex work" and the parents of that teen grounded them? oh, the horror!

Posted by OZ on June 2, 2009 at 2:58 PM
internet_jen 7
My dad opened his home to the 'bad crowd' my older brother and sister ran with in Jr High and High School (well most never graduated). Though he wasn't the BEST adult figure, my brother and sister both dropped out at a young age, he embraced them and gave them the guidance, love and lectures that he best could. He passed away a couple years ago and a lot of these kids, I hadn't seen in almost a decade, came to the funeral. I never realized how much he helped them till I heard their comments. All my life we had extended family live with us, and that is how my dad grew up, Aunts and cousins living next door or down the street. So I thought it was normal that all these kids lived with us. At one time we had up to 12 people in a 6bdrm house. My family had 5 immediate members. The strong man I am so proud to have had in my life was, in some instances, was the only one these kids had in theirs.
Posted by internet_jen on June 2, 2009 at 3:01 PM
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@2: Sometimes I have nothing to add.
Posted by Dan Savage on June 2, 2009 at 3:04 PM
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@2: Sometimes I have nothing to add.
Posted by Dan Savage on June 2, 2009 at 3:04 PM
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"I do not for a moment regret leaving a home where I was tormented, taught to question myself constantly and forced to become a sneaky, lying person."

Thank you, April. I so needed to hear this at exactly this moment.

I'd already written the first draft of the letter that will lock my mother out of my life after 30 years of torment, and I'd already planned to send it tomorrow. But your letter, and this sentence in particular, was exactly what I needed to hear. It's a comfort to hear from someone who was raised in a strikingly similar fashion and has no regrets for escaping.

Thank you.
Posted by Anonymous on June 2, 2009 at 3:16 PM
The Amazing Jim 11
I had a similar experience as the letter writer myself. After living with a friend I went into the warm loving embace if the U.S. Army. I haven't looked back since.
Posted by The Amazing Jim http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?id=100000076496291&ref=profile on June 2, 2009 at 3:30 PM
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Was I the only person listening to that podcast who didn't think "Oh my god, somebody save this persecuted teen, be free you beautiful butterfly!" I thought she sounded like a spoiled brat with a deluded sense of entitlement. Which, while not uncommon in teens, is certainly a slap in the face to the thousands of LGBT teens whose parents ARE denigrating, oppressive, and even violent because of their sexuality.

Not having an unlimited Maybelline budget does not make you persecuted. If your parents allow you to live openly as a girl at a private school (instead of say, shipping you off to some religious lockdown), they have at least accepted that you're a girl. But it doesn't mean they have to give you everything you want, or look the other way when you start blowing guys off craigslist to buy Louboutins. Know what kind of parents do that? Bad parents who don't care about their kids.

If a child of mine (gay, straight, trans, purple) pulled that shit, I'd pull them out of school and refuse to let them near a computer again too. Parental distrust and suspicion aren't easy to get live with, but you lost their trust because YOU fucked up, NOT because you're trans and they don't love you.

Maybe spend the next year trying to grow up and think about other people for a bit. Like the parents that obviously want the best for their daughter and want her to learn personal responsibility, and teens across the country that really and truly suffer because of their identity. Not just because they don't have a bigger wardrobe and nicer jewelry.
Posted by Karla http://underthewagon.com on June 2, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Julie in Eugene 13
I feel for this kid... but... I have to say that without further information, it doesn't sound like what her parents are doing is really all that terrible.

If I had a straight daughter at boarding school who was doing sex work in order to be able to afford make-up and was expelled from that school, you'd better believe that she would be on lock-down in the house. And that I might not be the kindest parent around to her anymore...

I will say that there it seems pretty clear that there are some emotional health issues (related to being trans + potentially other things) that her parents are not helping her address. Otherwise why turn to sex work as a teen instead of just a regular job (as well as the part about the school employee thinking she might end up dead).

So, I tend to agree with Dan's original advice (stay at home for a year, get a job if you can), with the add on that she should ask her parents if she can find a therapist to go to. If her parents are even remotely reasonable people (and, if they have health insurance), they shouldn't have a problem with this, given that they clearly know she's having difficulties.
Posted by Julie in Eugene on June 2, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Julie in Eugene 14
I feel for this kid... but... I have to say that without further information, it doesn't sound like what her parents are doing is really all that terrible.

If I had a straight daughter at boarding school who was doing sex work in order to be able to afford make-up and was expelled from that school, you'd better believe that she would be on lock-down in the house. And that I might not be the kindest parent around to her anymore...

I will say that there it seems pretty clear that there are some emotional health issues (related to being trans + potentially other things) that her parents are not helping her address. Otherwise why turn to sex work as a teen instead of just a regular job (as well as the part about the school employee thinking she might end up dead).

So, I tend to agree with Dan's original advice (stay at home for a year, get a job if you can), with the add on that she should ask her parents if she can find a therapist to go to. If her parents are even remotely reasonable people (and, if they have health insurance), they shouldn't have a problem with this, given that they clearly know she's having difficulties.
Posted by Julie in Eugene on June 2, 2009 at 4:34 PM
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I will be unhappy if my child gets into sex work.

Does that make me a controlling, soul-killing monster?
Posted by Irving on June 2, 2009 at 5:07 PM
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Why is this posted here? It mentions neither gay marriage or bacon, and the fact that Dan doesn't even comment gives nobody the opportunity to talk about how wrong he is on everything (iraq, prop 8, sex advice).
Posted by Donutspal on June 2, 2009 at 5:55 PM
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Why is this posted here? It mentions neither gay marriage or bacon, and the fact that Dan doesn't even comment gives nobody the opportunity to talk about how wrong he is on everything (iraq, prop 8, sex advice).
Posted by Donutspal on June 2, 2009 at 5:55 PM
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Why is this posted here? It mentions neither gay marriage or bacon, and the fact that Dan doesn't even comment gives nobody the opportunity to talk about how wrong he is on everything (iraq, prop 8, sex advice).
Posted by Donutspal on June 2, 2009 at 5:55 PM
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Why is this posted here? It mentions neither gay marriage or bacon, and the fact that Dan doesn't even comment gives nobody the opportunity to talk about how wrong he is on everything (iraq, prop 8, sex advice).
Posted by Donutspal on June 2, 2009 at 5:55 PM
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Ummm, i think the comments section is broke today. Sorry :(
Posted by Donutspal on June 2, 2009 at 5:56 PM
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That is just a flat out fantastic letter.
Posted by karion on June 2, 2009 at 6:06 PM
kim in portland 22
That letter has me weeping. Thanks to the rest of you for your comments.
Posted by kim in portland http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/11/fast-paced_video_provides_a_fu.html on June 2, 2009 at 6:17 PM
yucca flower 23
The letter was heartbreaking, but the kid sounded like a twit. Really Trans Teen? You think mom and dad wouldn't ground you for sex work? Really? They let you go to a girls school as a girl! That sounds pretty damn progressive to me! They didn't send you to reparative therapy to "butch up" which happens to too damn many LGBT kids. They let you be yourself. What they didn't let you be is a prostitute for cheap-ass trinkets. Guess what, if you were a biological female trolling for "dates" for mall money your parents would have locked you up too!

FYI, Trans Teen, "needing" crap like expensive clothes, shoes, and cosmetics don't make you a woman...they make you a shallow vain woman.
Posted by yucca flower on June 2, 2009 at 6:41 PM
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April- you are a brave soul and hats off to you for trying to help others.
Posted by C in Mass on June 2, 2009 at 6:41 PM
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@12 - Funny you should say that. When I first listened to this podcast I was on the subway and missed the part at the beginning when the kid identified herself as trans. So I'm listening to the rest of the call - "they won't by me the makeup and stuff I need" - and I was just thinking "What a BRAT!" I was like - I (a cis girl, for the record) didn't wear makeup as a teen and I sure as hell won't be buying my daughters makeup. I mean, I probably could have bought it with my allowance or money from my summer job, and my kids will have the same option - but I was just thinking this kid was a total brat. Then when Dan started answering I realized that she was trans. And I started to see it a bit differently - I figured that the "and stuff" might include hormone therapy or something along that line. But I do think that you don't need makeup to be a girl. And my first impression, thinking we were dealing with a cis girl, was that the kid was a brat.
Posted by historygirl on June 2, 2009 at 7:10 PM
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I work with run away/throw away kids. The best thing my boss ever told me is that when kids run away, there is usually a very good reason behind it. After meeting the parents, I'd say 99.9% had a good reason. Sad, but true.
Posted by STLJoy on June 3, 2009 at 1:41 AM
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@23:

I get your point, and generally agree the difference between being LGBT and doing potentially dangerous things as a teen.

That said - you suggest the trans teen should be happy that her parents "let" her be trans? really? A person should be thankful that others allow her to exist, as herself?

wanna' chance to rethink that point?
Posted by trans i am on June 3, 2009 at 10:02 AM
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@23:

I get your point, and generally agree the difference between being LGBT and doing potentially dangerous things as a teen.

That said - you suggest the trans teen should be happy that her parents "let" her be trans? really? A person should be thankful that others allow her to exist, as herself?

wanna' chance to rethink that point?
Posted by trans i am on June 3, 2009 at 10:02 AM
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Even if her parents are supportive the teen has a big hill to climb, like anyone who is trans.

It shouldn't be surprising that she acted out in a reckless way. . . Even with supportive parents transpobia is ubiquitous.

see:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-ro…
Posted by trans i am on June 3, 2009 at 10:04 AM

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