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Posted by Bethany Jean Clement on Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Dom and Jonah, it's articles like this that make me thankful The Stranger exists. There's no way the mainstream press would get this story right. These people have done nothing wrong, are being totally fucked over by the city. It's always a bad thing when government tramples on the civil rights of its citizens.Dom, as someone with experience with successful initiatives, you should start an initiative to legalize brothels in Seattle. Sell it to liberals and feminists as a woman's right to her body and livelihood, and as a way stop exploitation by pimps. Sell it to the neighborhoods as a way to end streetwalking. Sell it to everyone else as a way to boost tourism and tax revenues.
You all know it's the right thing to do, and you have the balls and talent to do it.
Posted by seandr on May 29, 2009 at 11:22 PM
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Jesus Christ, no.
I support legalization but it has to be nationwide. Legalizing prostitution in just one city will turn that city into a fucking pit, just like Las Vegas, just like the entire state of Nevada.
Yeah, who wouldn't want to turn Seattle into Bangkok?
I support legalization but it has to be nationwide. Legalizing prostitution in just one city will turn that city into a fucking pit, just like Las Vegas, just like the entire state of Nevada.
Sell it to everyone else as a way to boost tourism and tax revenues.
Yeah, who wouldn't want to turn Seattle into Bangkok?
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Was this self-congratulatory post to make up for the way Dominic misidentified hand sanitizer as lube? Thus framing the entire story differently and shamefully?
The commenter has it right though, Dominic has experience with successful initiatives and he should stick with doing that. He's not a journalist, and he shouldn't be in a position of disseminating information. Neither should Jonah.
The commenter has it right though, Dominic has experience with successful initiatives and he should stick with doing that. He's not a journalist, and he shouldn't be in a position of disseminating information. Neither should Jonah.
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Prostitution is available in every city. I don't think we'll have a ton of people flying in just to get laid. Fun things are legal in Canada, but I'm not seeing many people jump the border to get at them. Yes, we badly need this initiative.
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You're right Dan, it's not up to me, but it is up to me to be an oppositional voice to unqualified and mistaken individuals in positions of pseudo-power.
Sorry if it rains on your parade, but fuck dude. I bet there are hoards of talented, educated, and experienced writers who would work for you. I'm not one of them, so this isn't a jealousy thing. It's a responsibility thing.
That's right, Dan, you have responsibility if you are going to claim to be a newspaper (a la the message on the spine a couple weeks ago). Unfortunately, your responsibility is to making money, not to an informed public.
It's a joke when you try to make claims to credibility. It will be a joke when one of them makes a big enough mistake to bury you and make your paper a laughing stock.
Sorry if it rains on your parade, but fuck dude. I bet there are hoards of talented, educated, and experienced writers who would work for you. I'm not one of them, so this isn't a jealousy thing. It's a responsibility thing.
That's right, Dan, you have responsibility if you are going to claim to be a newspaper (a la the message on the spine a couple weeks ago). Unfortunately, your responsibility is to making money, not to an informed public.
It's a joke when you try to make claims to credibility. It will be a joke when one of them makes a big enough mistake to bury you and make your paper a laughing stock.
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@5, you are so right, but don't get in too much of a huff. The Stranger news team is all about "advocacy journalism", which is what you call it when you don't even want to pretend to be impartial or to base your articles on solidly researched material. It's easy, really. Pick an issue, find the facts that support your viewpoint, and write. If there are facts that counter your viewpoint, ignore them. You don't even need a degree in journalism, that's how great it is.
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Thanks, 7... I'm familiar with advocacy journalism. It's just disheartening that the standards are so low with it that mistakes are OK and excusable.
In addition, I doubt even a fraction of readers understand that the Stranger is advocacy/yellow journalism. If it's in print, it MUST be right! And that's sad.
And still, it's lying and it's reckless to call yourself a newspaper when it should be referred to as "tabloid" or "rag"
In addition, I doubt even a fraction of readers understand that the Stranger is advocacy/yellow journalism. If it's in print, it MUST be right! And that's sad.
And still, it's lying and it's reckless to call yourself a newspaper when it should be referred to as "tabloid" or "rag"
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Uh... guys, Prostitution is ILLEGAL in Las Vegas itself - jeesus, watching an episode of CSI can you tell that much.
The Brothels and Cat houses are in a different county in Nevada. So it's not necessarily the sex trade that made Vegas a place of sleaze. Remember, it was founded by the Mafia, and though they're no longer The Kings of the Strip, they still got a hold - so if you want to blame something for the pit, blame the gangs and the *gasp* gambling.
The Brothels and Cat houses are in a different county in Nevada. So it's not necessarily the sex trade that made Vegas a place of sleaze. Remember, it was founded by the Mafia, and though they're no longer The Kings of the Strip, they still got a hold - so if you want to blame something for the pit, blame the gangs and the *gasp* gambling.
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Shini is right, Prostitution is illegal in Washoe County (Reno) and Clark County (Vegas) and a few others. Where it is legal, it's highly regulated.
Also, if your only knowledge of Nevada is Vegas and feel like you need to apply your hatred of that cesspool to the whole Obama-voting state, then at best you're naive and at worst completely imbecillic. You might also want to know that all of California is not exactly like LA, just in case you had any similar preconceptions.
Also, if your only knowledge of Nevada is Vegas and feel like you need to apply your hatred of that cesspool to the whole Obama-voting state, then at best you're naive and at worst completely imbecillic. You might also want to know that all of California is not exactly like LA, just in case you had any similar preconceptions.
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And of course, those rural counties in Nevada where prostitution is legal are just like Amsterdam and Frankfurt and Melbourne...
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I would probably care a bit more if they didn't dress up their whoring as some kind of silly spiritual nonsense. I am pretty pro-prostitution, but generally anti-new age hippies.
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The main problem is, as Matisse said a year or so ago, that even tepidly supporting prostitution is political suicide, so no representatives will touch it. And as for writing an initiative, I'd do it myself, but I know fuck-all about the law.
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@12: Fine, so new age spirituality isn't your thing. It's not mine either.
Still, these women are just making a living. They aren't hurting anyone. In fact they are helping a whole lot of lonely and frustrated guys feel better. The law should leave them alone, regardless of whether they market their services as new age healing, bdsm, girl friend experiences, porn star experiences, or tantric massage.
Still, these women are just making a living. They aren't hurting anyone. In fact they are helping a whole lot of lonely and frustrated guys feel better. The law should leave them alone, regardless of whether they market their services as new age healing, bdsm, girl friend experiences, porn star experiences, or tantric massage.
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@1: "Yeah, who wouldn't want to turn Seattle into Bangkok?"
Please, nothing could possibly turn our uptight little hamlet full of millionaires into a city as crazy and fun as Bangkok. Imagine something more like Berlin, Hamburg, or Frankfurt, only without streetwalkers soliciting in public.
Please, nothing could possibly turn our uptight little hamlet full of millionaires into a city as crazy and fun as Bangkok. Imagine something more like Berlin, Hamburg, or Frankfurt, only without streetwalkers soliciting in public.
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