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Friday, May 29, 2009

Talking to China Miéville

Posted by on Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:27 PM

b4a1/1243627279-200px-mieville_city_2009_uk.jpgI interviewed China Miéville, the author of Un Lun Dun, The Scar, and Perdido Street Station, earlier today. If you haven't read his books, he writes Dickensian urban fantasy that's about as far away from Tolkien as you can get. his newest book is called The City and the City*, and it's about as far away from Miéville's earlier work as you can get: It's like a Philip K. Dick novel, only instead of the main character having a fractured identity, the setting is what's completely schizophrenic. It's a police procedural novel set in a city that has a psychological border with another city: Like if East and West Berlin decided to politely ignore each other instead of putting up a wall.

I'll put up the full text of the interview next week, but I have to say that Miéville is a hugely entertaining conversationalist. In twenty minutes we went from e-books—"If I was starting now I'd be very pro e-dissemination. I think it's one of those things where it is both inevitable and desirable"—to his influences in writing the most different novel of his career—"If you're a fan of [Philip K. Dick's] you never see outside him," but the major influences for The City and the City include Kafka and Bruno Schulz— to "The growing but still tiny number of Poles with African heritage."

He wrote The City and the City because "my mum was very ill and she's always been a crime reader. I wanted to write something that was completely related to her preferred protocols." Very little of the book relates to his previous works, but it was written at the same time as another book, "a big fat urban fantasy much more flavored like Perdido."

And we concluded our discussion by talking about the idea that they're remaking the Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie (Miéville is a huge Buffy fan.) "My alarm bells are ringing. Never underestimate the sheer crassness of these people. How about we don't go and see it." I pointed out that geek culture resists the idea of not seeing movies that look bad. "But still," he said, "How about we don't go and see it. How about we don't go and see Transformers: Revenge of What the Fuck Ever. Of course Michael Bay's film is awful. He's Michael Bay! It was the Star Wars prequel that did it for me. I saw the first, but I'm never going to go see the others. There's quite enough really really great entertainment." He proposed the idea of an anti-Ain't It Cool News website called "Let's Not Go.com. You could publish reviews by people who saw it so you don't have it."

Miéville's reading at Third Place Books on June 5th, and you really ought to consider going. The interview will be up on our books page next week.

* The City & the City cover on this post is the British edition. As always, it is a superior cover to the American edition.

 

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Looking forward to reading it! He's one of my favorite authors. I met him a couple of years ago and he was both brilliant and gracious, and his readings are wonderful.
Posted by Patti on May 29, 2009 at 1:42 PM
2
The cover is exactly the same as the American version, save that it's red instead of silvery blue. It's the same shade of red that graced the cover of his last major hardcover, Iron Council, making them look almost like the same book. Too much red for that side of my bookshelf.

I've enjoyed seeing him read at U Bookstore and at Elliott Bay, but he is visiting neither of those loyal locales this time. I've gotten the sense that there's a little bit of intrigue and uproar over this decision. Have you heard anything?
Posted by -ink on May 29, 2009 at 1:52 PM
3
I'd been wanting to check out Mieville for a while, and made the mistake of starting with Iron Council, which was pretty underwhelming. Any recommendations on where to restart when I get around to it?
Posted by Levislade http://ballofwax.org on May 29, 2009 at 2:00 PM
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@3
Iron Council is the third book that takes place in his massive fictive world, meaning that you mistakenly missed two prior introductions. Perdido Street Station is the first book to take place in that setting, and will be a heckuva lot easier to make sense of.

That said, I've heard from many readers who were underwhelmed by Iron Council. The first two--Perdido Street Station and The Scar--are widely thought of as superior.

It's great that you're willing to give his writing another shot, as his work is some of the most intelligent and off-the-wall fantasy/steampunk being created today!
Posted by -ink on May 29, 2009 at 2:15 PM
crazycatguy 5
Terrific writer - one of the best in the sf/fantasy genre. @3; I'd start with Perdido St. Station.
Posted by crazycatguy on May 29, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Jigae 6
I have some reservations about some of his politics, but the guy is great author.
Posted by Jigae on May 29, 2009 at 2:26 PM
7
Cool, thanks guys.

I realized a little ways in that I had started at the wrong end of the "trilogy," but the consensus seemed to be that the books could easily be appreciated independently, as they don't have a lot to do with each other aside from being in the same world. There were some confusing bits, but that wasn't the main problem: the main problem was the piss-poor character development and dialogue and reliance on ridiculous plot elements.
Posted by Levislade http://ballofwax.org on May 29, 2009 at 2:28 PM
8
China Mieville kind of sucks. Perdido Street Station was cheesy and I couldn't get halfway through the scar. I read four books a week almost never stop a book before finishing but I just couldn't make it through that pos.
Posted by andrew http://seattletransitblog.com on May 29, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Simac 9
Typographically, the first E and V in the last name in all caps on that cover just look like crap to me. I don't know how much you can kern to compensate for that, but a graphic artist could have really done something terrific with the typography and made it so that you read the name and not that gaping space under the left arm of the V. Very amateurish cover.
Posted by Simac on May 29, 2009 at 2:57 PM
Grist 10
@7: I read Perdido Street Station (the first one, the one others are recommending as a good starting point) and had the same complaints about it as you did about the later book. I only finished it because I had bought it new ($7!) and felt obligated. So maybe Mieville is simply not for the likes of you and I and #8.
Posted by Grist on May 29, 2009 at 4:10 PM
crazycatguy 11
@7,
I think you have to enjoy the rhythm of Mievelle's narrative to appreciate the character development. And even though the books are not a sequel, per se, it helps to read the first two to get a feel for it. Not for everyone, I agree. And of course, since it is fantasy, plot elements might appear to be ridiculous. I think the best way to describe the style of Mievelle would be to say he writes "baroquely." Why use one adjective when three will do?
Posted by crazycatguy on May 29, 2009 at 4:57 PM
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@8
100% agreed. Perdido street station relied on several Deus ex Machina plot devices (first it was a magic spider, then it was a magic robot brain and then it was a magic jack-the-ripper or whatever) and had entire sections with no point on the main story.(fingerlings or whatever, rampart runabouts, etc.) pretty lame.
Posted by Max J on May 29, 2009 at 5:50 PM
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@12
Um, yes, it's fantasy. Would you consider elves and dragons to be ridiculous plot devices in Tolkien?
Posted by -ink on May 29, 2009 at 10:30 PM
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-ink @ 2 re: "intrigue and uproar" What have you heard? I work at one of the three aforementioned bookstores and I have not heard anything.

All three are vital and vibrant parts of Seattle's independent bookstore community. With the current economic climate, especially in publishing, we are lucky that he'll be in Seattle at all.

(also @12. Dead on observation. Thanks!)
Posted by MisterWinter on May 30, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Ivan Cockrum 15
Thanks, Paul. Based on your inter/review, it sounded like The City & The City hit on some favorite themes of mine. I picked up a copy, loved it, and I'm now working my way through Mieville's oeuvre. I thoroughly enjoyed Perdido Street Station, and I'm about halfway through The Scar. Mieville obviously draws from many pop-cultural sources, but manages to freshen them up with an urbane academic confidence that strips away much of the overused steampunk/fantasy cliches. Really intense world-building without spoon feeding. I like it a lot.

Posted by Ivan Cockrum http://www.cockrumville.com on July 22, 2009 at 3:15 PM

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