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Wednesday, May 27, 2009

Drago Ballot-Stuffing Already?

Posted by on Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:30 PM

5777/1243455127-drago.jpgAbout an hour after I posted this Slog straw poll on the Seattle mayor's race, I received an e-mail, subject line:

Mayor's race poll hacked?

The correspondent had noticed something, and we here at Slog headquarters had noticed it too: Jan Drago was ascending a bit too rapidly in our poll. After the first 100 or so votes (which are usually a good predictor of the final poll outcome), Drago was in third place, behind McGinn and Nickels. Then, suddenly, she shot out to first place and was commanding something close to 60 percent of the vote.

What happened? Is Drago's newly-launched campaign really the sleeper hit of the summer?

Nope.

Stranger web guru Anthony Hecht looked at the IP addresses that all the new Drago votes were coming from and quickly found Drago's base of support: one IP address. (And it doesn't look to be a business IP address, which could have meant hundreds of Drago supporters, coincidentally all in one office, all using the same router. It looks to be a residential address, meaning one rabid Drago supporter engaging in some highly repetitive web-trickery.)

The statistical proof: Back when the poll was at 678 total votes, with Drago way out in front, Anthony found about 85 percent of Drago's 367 votes coming from that one IP address. Clear cut electronic ballot-stuffing.

So I called Drago to ask about this, and began by explaining that we'd put up a poll that was showing her way out in front. Before I could get to the "But..." she said, excitedly:

Wait, wait, wait, I gotta write it down!

Then, after I explained the apparent ballot-stuffing, she said:

I don’t know anything about it. I literally don’t know anything about it. I’ve been so much in the eye of the hurricane, and clearly the media is hungry for a race. Yesterday—I’ve just never experienced anything like that... But I have no idea. I’ll check with my political consultant, but I guess my response is that I’m honest and people know that. I play the game honestly. It’s gonna be a rough road. I’ve never played those kinds of games in my campaigns, and I certainly don’t intend to.

Sandeep Kaushik, spokesman for the campaign of Mayor Greg Nickels, said only:

This result is about as credible as the other poll that Drago was flogging around a couple of weeks ago.

 

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giffy 1
Lol. I kind of love fucking with online polls given how generally useless they are. I probably would have done Nickels though cuz that would have fucked with people more.
Posted by giffy on May 27, 2009 at 1:38 PM
2
I realized the Stranger's Polls were cookie based awhile ago. Clearing the cookies the poll does not know whether you voted or not so you can vote again. I was saving this trick for a special occaission and sad to hear it was wasted on a Drago poll.
Posted by Zander on May 27, 2009 at 1:46 PM
DOUG. 3
I never thought I'd read the phrase "rabid Drago supporter".
Posted by DOUG. http://www.dougsvotersguide.com on May 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Greg 4
C'mon guys, it was a bullshit poll. You're surprised this happened?
Posted by Greg on May 27, 2009 at 1:56 PM
5
If you misuse the word "literally," I can't vote for you. I'm sorry.
Posted by Farts Weird on May 27, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Fnarf 6
This is different from every other Stranger poll how, exactly?
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on May 27, 2009 at 2:12 PM
Will in Seattle 7
Fnarf for the insightful win.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on May 27, 2009 at 2:16 PM
8
How NOT shocking is this? As if Sandeep has never posted on Slog with a pseudonym. As if no one from the mayor's office has posted on Slog with a pseudonym. As if this isn't common practice in electoral campaigns now. As if these straw polls have ANY legitimacy.
Posted by Trevor on May 27, 2009 at 2:19 PM
9
Heh heh heh.
Posted by Nickels supporter setting up Drago . . . on May 27, 2009 at 2:25 PM
10
Why are you guys are spending time tracking down a ballot box stuffer from a web poll?
Posted by Display name may not be the name of a registered user: on May 27, 2009 at 2:26 PM
11
This is how the pregnant wholpin won the Sedaris tickets I'm telling you!! Not that I'm bitter or anything...
Posted by defman23 on May 27, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Hobgoblin 12
Sandeep talks more about Jan's poll than she does. What's that Shakespeare line about "doth protest too much?"
Posted by Hobgoblin on May 27, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Will in Seattle 13
Just wait until they process the Diebold results in our primary.

You do know that the machines doing the counts for the primary in our county are from Diebold, right?
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on May 27, 2009 at 3:25 PM
14
@12,

If I were working on a campaign for an incumbent mayor who is stuck at 25% in every real (ie - statistically valid) poll done to date, I'd want to change the subject, too.
Posted by Mr. X on May 27, 2009 at 3:26 PM
josh 15
Shocking! web polls are useless? say it isn't so.
Posted by josh http://www.sciencevsromance.net on May 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM
16
useless poll by a useless mag
Posted by thestranger.livejournal.com on May 27, 2009 at 3:46 PM
17
Why on earth did you call Drago up to ask for a comment on this? Some sort of combination of hilariously inflated self-importance and a vague, unexamined impulse towards gotcha "journalism"? Your poll was every bit as meaningless before the ballot stuffing as it was after, so how are Drago's thoughts at all relevant? Why would a non-event create some kind of obligation on her part?
Posted by Display name on May 27, 2009 at 4:41 PM
elenchos 18
Eli, will you ever get that online polls are shit? Ever?

Maybe you don't care. It's like "Ooh, online poll! Free data! I can write a story about what people think for NOTHING! Real polls cost thousands of dollars and who can afford that? Stick a widget on a web site and you get the same thing and it costs jack squat!" What could go wrong?
Posted by elenchos on May 27, 2009 at 5:19 PM
19
Elenchos, you rock my world.
Posted by Mr. Poe on May 27, 2009 at 10:25 PM
20
Oh, the blood, the blood.

And the dueling campaign saga is just days old ... Long chat at a party last night, no one person likes either of them ... this will be weird ... so if there is no positive support ... does negative matter?

Oh the blood, the blood ...
Posted by Aarondia on May 28, 2009 at 2:21 AM
JonSM99 21
Drago has an intellectual honesty problem. (We already knew Nickels did, but you might hope a new candidate would offer a plausible alternative)

Drago voted against the bag fee on the grounds that it's regressive. (Mind you, the bags are optional, just like alcohol and cigarettes--are taxes on those regressive too?) But in 2007 and 08, as a Sound Transit Board member, Drago voted to put sales tax increases on the ballot to fund transit expansion. And she supported Prop. 1 both times if memory serves. So a sales tax you can't avoid is not regressive, but a plastic bag fee you can avoid and which serves a dire environmental purpose is?

Supposedly Drago favors banning the bangs entirely instead of putting a fee on them. But neither during the bag fee debate nor since then has she proposed a bill to do so.

I can vote for candidates I don't agree with on everything. I can't support those who are just hypocritical.
Posted by JonSM99 on May 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM
JonSM99 22
Drago has an intellectual honesty problem. (We already knew Nickels did, but you might hope a new candidate would offer a plausible alternative)

Drago voted against the bag fee on the grounds that it's regressive. (Mind you, the bags are optional, just like alcohol and cigarettes--are taxes on those regressive too?) But in 2007 and 08, as a Sound Transit Board member, Drago voted to put sales tax increases on the ballot to fund transit expansion. And she supported Prop. 1 both times if memory serves. So a sales tax you can't avoid is not regressive, but a plastic bag fee you can avoid and which serves a dire environmental purpose is?

Supposedly Drago favors banning the bangs entirely instead of putting a fee on them. But neither during the bag fee debate nor since then has she proposed a bill to do so.

I can vote for candidates I don't agree with on everything. I can't support those who are just hypocritical.
Posted by JonSM99 on May 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM

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