1. Pelosi was there, Panetta was not there.
2. CIA is not releasing the documents from the meeting where allegedly they told her.

Very suspicious.

3. Do not believe any CIA person is out saying "I was there, this is what I told her."

3. Bob Graham was head of Senate Intell committee and he says CIA did not tell him.

4. CIA has history of lying. Huge history of lying. Indeed, huge history of illegal acts, coups, hiding things from Congress and the people.

Duh!!!!!!!!

5. she probably correctly calculated if she made a stink ( a private letter sent to administration) it would go nowhere.

6. Whether she was a dumbass for not objecting isn't directly relevant to whether torture made us safer, was ilegal, etc.

"You made me toture because you didn't stop me"?

7. they didn't fucking tell ME and she doesn't represent ME. So fuck this whole pelosi distraction tactic.

8. No one is saying they told her (a) our legal memo was a work of fiction, (b) the torture exceeded the legal memo standards anyway, (c) we didn't just waterboard we did it 83 times and 183 times, clearly illegal, and clearly ineffective and for malicious motives concerning Cheney's obsessions; if it doesn't work after 182 times, it doesn't fucking work, RIGHT?? (d) in fact the guy stopped giving us useful info when we started waterboarding, (e) we did the waterboarding to get false info not for any ticking time bomb scenario, (f) all of our experienced interrogators told us don't do it and we outsourced this to amateurs who knew nothing about real interrogation and our whole program is a lie and a scam.

So there's no dispute that they lied or held back on major pieces of important information.

9. Adopting the Bush admin position on whether they told her to make this issue go away is not CHANGE like Obama promised.

My god the whole right wing is out there praising his foreign policy decisions on the ground they are so Bush-like.