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News & ArtsWednesday, May 6, 2009
Politics I Hate To Think I Was Supporting Socialism...
Posted by Dan Savage on Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:36 AM
...when I vacationed in Hawaii. I didn't even know I had an alternative to Hawaii's socialized beaches...
Via Americablog.
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But how do I get their in a non-government subsidized way. I can't drive on the roads or use the airports. I could always swim. Maybe I could take my boat, but if the pirates get me what do I do then. Maybe the US government will come help me, but I don't want them in my other business, just when my ass is totally on the line.
Lesson: fuck the rich, fuck Glenn Beck, and remember who is always there for you. Uncle Sam.
Lesson: fuck the rich, fuck Glenn Beck, and remember who is always there for you. Uncle Sam.
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Why does opening comments hang on "waiting for podcasts.thestranger.com" even when there's no podcast in them?
"Government isn't the solution to our problems; government IS the problem -- and now you have cholera".
"Government isn't the solution to our problems; government IS the problem -- and now you have cholera".
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Fnarf, it looks like they're just hosting some web stats tracking on the podcasts server and it's probably hanging a bit writing its logs.
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They need to make a bunch of these. Maybe have one where a guy gets knifed outside a club and is slumped over bleeding in an alley, then when he dials 911 he gets a wrong number message and the narrator steps in and explains that there's no such thing as 911 because that would be socialist and evil. Or maybe another where a fancy SUV is driving along just fine when it hits a pothole that breaks the axle clean off, the guy gets out and wonders aloud why nobody ever fixes the roads only to be reminded that socially subsidized roads are evil.
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Here's one example of public beach rules- they vary. This doesn't include sleeping- for which you can go to jail.
Noise:
Any unreasonable, loud, disturbing and unnecessary noise being detrimental to the life or health of any individual or contrary to public welfare, especially between the normal sleeping hours of 11:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m., is prohibited.
Parking:
It shall be unlawful for any person to park, stand, or store any boat, trailer, commercial vehicle, recreational vehicle or trailer on any street located within a residential district, unless loading or unloading of such vehicle.
Beach Rules:
It shall be unlawful for any person to be on Lewes Beach (from Roosevelt Inlet to the Cape May-Lewes Ferry Terminal) between the hours of 12:00 midnight and 6:00 a.m.
Sleeping: It shall be unlawful for any person to sleep, lie, loiter on, occupy as sleeping quarters or be under the guise or pretending to sleep on any part of the public beaches within the corporate limits of the City between 11:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m.
Fires: No open burning.
Alcohol: None allowed.
Permits: Required for activities on beach.
Dogs: No dogs are allowed on any beach strand between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 6:30 p.m. any day between May 1st and September 30th.
Horses: It shall be unlawful for any person to ride, walk or exercise a horse upon any public beach located within the corporate limits of the City from April 1st thru September 30th.
Fishing: It shall be unlawful for any person, firm or corporation to fish in the area of Lewes Beach extending from Pilot Point to the property of the Lewes Yacht Club between the hours of 10:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. and for a distance offshore of 300 feet, from May 1st thru September 15th.
Jetskis: It shall be unlawful for any person to operate jetskis within a distance of 300 feet of any beach strand within the corporate limits of the City of Lewes.
Dogs: The owner or person in control of a dog shall keep the dog under leash, and shall carry and use a bag or other device to pick up and remove from property any excrement which said dog shall drop.
Rollerskates/skateboards/rollerblades:
A. Persons under twelve (12) years of age may use or employ rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices on any sidewalk within the City of Lewes. No person twelve (12) years of age or older shall use rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices on any sidewalk within the City of Lewes, except the sidewalk on the east side of the Savannah Road drawbridge.
B. On any sidewalk where persons are using or employing rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices, such persons shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians.
C. No person shall use rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices with the areas of any City Parks, except Blockhouse Pond Park.
D. Persons using or employing rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices shall conduct their activity as far to the right of the traffic lane as possible, in a single file and flowing with traffic.
E. Any persons employing rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices, shall follow the rules of the road established for bicycles pursuant to Title 21 of the Delaware Code.,br F. No person shall use rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices on any ramps, jumps or other devices to perform stunts upon any public sidewalk, parking lot or in the restricted public parks.
G. No persons shall use rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices so as to injure public or private property.
H. No person using rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices shall attach himself or herself to any moving motor vehicle upon any street, parking lot or public right-of-way.
I. Any person using rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices between sunset and sunrise shall wear reflective markings or material of sufficient reflectivity to be visible from both sides from six hundred (600) feet when directly in front of lawful lower beams of head lamps on a motor vehicle.
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Noise:
Any unreasonable, loud, disturbing and unnecessary noise being detrimental to the life or health of any individual or contrary to public welfare, especially between the normal sleeping hours of 11:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m., is prohibited.
Parking:
It shall be unlawful for any person to park, stand, or store any boat, trailer, commercial vehicle, recreational vehicle or trailer on any street located within a residential district, unless loading or unloading of such vehicle.
Beach Rules:
It shall be unlawful for any person to be on Lewes Beach (from Roosevelt Inlet to the Cape May-Lewes Ferry Terminal) between the hours of 12:00 midnight and 6:00 a.m.
Sleeping: It shall be unlawful for any person to sleep, lie, loiter on, occupy as sleeping quarters or be under the guise or pretending to sleep on any part of the public beaches within the corporate limits of the City between 11:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m.
Fires: No open burning.
Alcohol: None allowed.
Permits: Required for activities on beach.
Dogs: No dogs are allowed on any beach strand between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 6:30 p.m. any day between May 1st and September 30th.
Horses: It shall be unlawful for any person to ride, walk or exercise a horse upon any public beach located within the corporate limits of the City from April 1st thru September 30th.
Fishing: It shall be unlawful for any person, firm or corporation to fish in the area of Lewes Beach extending from Pilot Point to the property of the Lewes Yacht Club between the hours of 10:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. and for a distance offshore of 300 feet, from May 1st thru September 15th.
Jetskis: It shall be unlawful for any person to operate jetskis within a distance of 300 feet of any beach strand within the corporate limits of the City of Lewes.
Dogs: The owner or person in control of a dog shall keep the dog under leash, and shall carry and use a bag or other device to pick up and remove from property any excrement which said dog shall drop.
Rollerskates/skateboards/rollerblades:
A. Persons under twelve (12) years of age may use or employ rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices on any sidewalk within the City of Lewes. No person twelve (12) years of age or older shall use rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices on any sidewalk within the City of Lewes, except the sidewalk on the east side of the Savannah Road drawbridge.
B. On any sidewalk where persons are using or employing rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices, such persons shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians.
C. No person shall use rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices with the areas of any City Parks, except Blockhouse Pond Park.
D. Persons using or employing rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices shall conduct their activity as far to the right of the traffic lane as possible, in a single file and flowing with traffic.
E. Any persons employing rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices, shall follow the rules of the road established for bicycles pursuant to Title 21 of the Delaware Code.,br F. No person shall use rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices on any ramps, jumps or other devices to perform stunts upon any public sidewalk, parking lot or in the restricted public parks.
G. No persons shall use rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices so as to injure public or private property.
H. No person using rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices shall attach himself or herself to any moving motor vehicle upon any street, parking lot or public right-of-way.
I. Any person using rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices between sunset and sunrise shall wear reflective markings or material of sufficient reflectivity to be visible from both sides from six hundred (600) feet when directly in front of lawful lower beams of head lamps on a motor vehicle.
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This one doesn't include sleeping- for which you can go to jail.
Public Beach Rules
Noise:
Any unreasonable, loud, disturbing and unnecessary noise being detrimental to the life or health of any individual or contrary to public welfare, especially between the normal sleeping hours of 11:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m., is prohibited.
Parking:
It shall be unlawful for any person to park, stand, or store any boat, trailer, commercial vehicle, recreational vehicle or trailer on any street located within a residential district, unless loading or unloading of such vehicle.
Beach Rules:
It shall be unlawful for any person to be on Lewes Beach (from Roosevelt Inlet to the Cape May-Lewes Ferry Terminal) between the hours of 12:00 midnight and 6:00 a.m.
Sleeping: It shall be unlawful for any person to sleep, lie, loiter on, occupy as sleeping quarters or be under the guise or pretending to sleep on any part of the public beaches within the corporate limits of the City between 11:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m.
Fires: No open burning.
Alcohol: None allowed.
Permits: Required for activities on beach.
Dogs: No dogs are allowed on any beach strand between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 6:30 p.m. any day between May 1st and September 30th.
Horses: It shall be unlawful for any person to ride, walk or exercise a horse upon any public beach located within the corporate limits of the City from April 1st thru September 30th.
Fishing: It shall be unlawful for any person, firm or corporation to fish in the area of Lewes Beach extending from Pilot Point to the property of the Lewes Yacht Club between the hours of 10:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. and for a distance offshore of 300 feet, from May 1st thru September 15th.
Jetskis: It shall be unlawful for any person to operate jetskis within a distance of 300 feet of any beach strand within the corporate limits of the City of Lewes.
Dogs: The owner or person in control of a dog shall keep the dog under leash, and shall carry and use a bag or other device to pick up and remove from property any excrement which said dog shall drop.
Rollerskates/skateboards/rollerblades:
A. Persons under twelve (12) years of age may use or employ rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices on any sidewalk within the City of Lewes. No person twelve (12) years of age or older shall use rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices on any sidewalk within the City of Lewes, except the sidewalk on the east side of the Savannah Road drawbridge.
B. On any sidewalk where persons are using or employing rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices, such persons shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians.
C. No person shall use rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices with the areas of any City Parks, except Blockhouse Pond Park.
D. Persons using or employing rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices shall conduct their activity as far to the right of the traffic lane as possible, in a single file and flowing with traffic.
E. Any persons employing rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices, shall follow the rules of the road established for bicycles pursuant to Title 21 of the Delaware Code.,br F. No person shall use rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices on any ramps, jumps or other devices to perform stunts upon any public sidewalk, parking lot or in the restricted public parks.
G. No persons shall use rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices so as to injure public or private property.
H. No person using rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices shall attach himself or herself to any moving motor vehicle upon any street, parking lot or public right-of-way.
I. Any person using rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices between sunset and sunrise shall wear reflective markings or material of sufficient reflectivity to be visible from both sides from six hundred (600) feet when directly in front of lawful lower beams of head lamps on a motor vehicle.
More...
Public Beach Rules
Noise:
Any unreasonable, loud, disturbing and unnecessary noise being detrimental to the life or health of any individual or contrary to public welfare, especially between the normal sleeping hours of 11:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m., is prohibited.
Parking:
It shall be unlawful for any person to park, stand, or store any boat, trailer, commercial vehicle, recreational vehicle or trailer on any street located within a residential district, unless loading or unloading of such vehicle.
Beach Rules:
It shall be unlawful for any person to be on Lewes Beach (from Roosevelt Inlet to the Cape May-Lewes Ferry Terminal) between the hours of 12:00 midnight and 6:00 a.m.
Sleeping: It shall be unlawful for any person to sleep, lie, loiter on, occupy as sleeping quarters or be under the guise or pretending to sleep on any part of the public beaches within the corporate limits of the City between 11:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m.
Fires: No open burning.
Alcohol: None allowed.
Permits: Required for activities on beach.
Dogs: No dogs are allowed on any beach strand between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 6:30 p.m. any day between May 1st and September 30th.
Horses: It shall be unlawful for any person to ride, walk or exercise a horse upon any public beach located within the corporate limits of the City from April 1st thru September 30th.
Fishing: It shall be unlawful for any person, firm or corporation to fish in the area of Lewes Beach extending from Pilot Point to the property of the Lewes Yacht Club between the hours of 10:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. and for a distance offshore of 300 feet, from May 1st thru September 15th.
Jetskis: It shall be unlawful for any person to operate jetskis within a distance of 300 feet of any beach strand within the corporate limits of the City of Lewes.
Dogs: The owner or person in control of a dog shall keep the dog under leash, and shall carry and use a bag or other device to pick up and remove from property any excrement which said dog shall drop.
Rollerskates/skateboards/rollerblades:
A. Persons under twelve (12) years of age may use or employ rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices on any sidewalk within the City of Lewes. No person twelve (12) years of age or older shall use rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices on any sidewalk within the City of Lewes, except the sidewalk on the east side of the Savannah Road drawbridge.
B. On any sidewalk where persons are using or employing rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices, such persons shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians.
C. No person shall use rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices with the areas of any City Parks, except Blockhouse Pond Park.
D. Persons using or employing rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices shall conduct their activity as far to the right of the traffic lane as possible, in a single file and flowing with traffic.
E. Any persons employing rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices, shall follow the rules of the road established for bicycles pursuant to Title 21 of the Delaware Code.,br F. No person shall use rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices on any ramps, jumps or other devices to perform stunts upon any public sidewalk, parking lot or in the restricted public parks.
G. No persons shall use rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices so as to injure public or private property.
H. No person using rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices shall attach himself or herself to any moving motor vehicle upon any street, parking lot or public right-of-way.
I. Any person using rollerskates, rollerblades/inline skates, skateboards or similar devices between sunset and sunrise shall wear reflective markings or material of sufficient reflectivity to be visible from both sides from six hundred (600) feet when directly in front of lawful lower beams of head lamps on a motor vehicle.
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@14, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove, but if you want onerous rules of conduct, don't look at public beaches; look at private covenants in gated communities. No parking on the street, ever? Check. My inlaws live in a place where technically you could be forced to sell your property and leave if you leave your garage door open for more than one hour; in practice, someone just comes and tells you to close it first. No socialists there; that's a private association.
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@13: So you're okay with drunk guys on jetskis zipping around where your children are swimming? And you have a problem with people having to clean up after their dogs? Okaaay...
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@18 ... not mention the biggest white elephent in the room in the land of invassion of privacy ...
the credit agency
the credit agency
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you don't need to go to Somalia for privatized beaches. you live in WA state, where most of the waterfront is OFF LIMITS to you peasants.
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VERY very good. An alternate good video would be to show what America's beaches would look like if they were all privatized, run by the wealthy. What free-market-puritan, capitalist idealist crazies never admit is that ideally they want EVERYTHING privatized. They need to be called out and beaten back more often over this. the loud-mouthed, glenn beck-following right wingers are all freaking out about "socialism" now as though America was meant to be purely capitalist, with no taxes unless they are used to blow the shit out of countries that may or may not intend to attack us. back to the age of the robber barons. that is their vision for us.
Democrats / liberals need to do a better job explaining why unregulated capitalism would be, and has been, a total disaster. If they can successfully communicate that, they can take kick a huge dent in one of the main pillars of the republican party.
Democrats / liberals need to do a better job explaining why unregulated capitalism would be, and has been, a total disaster. If they can successfully communicate that, they can take kick a huge dent in one of the main pillars of the republican party.
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When I first moved out to California from New York, I was amazed by the idea of hundreds of miles of public beaches-- it's almost all privatized on the eastern side of the continent. What a beautiful thing to hold the beaches in public trust for all citizens. If there need to be a few rules, especially in more populous beaches, to ensure they are safe, I'm glad. Of course there should also be public and wild places with fewer rules, just the basic rule that would apply anywhere, ie, the golden rule.
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