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Posted by Paul Constant on Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Earlier today, The Awl displayed the cover for 40 More Years: How the Democrats Will Rule the Next Generation by James Carville. The reason they pointed the book out is because they're nervous that Carville is jinxing the Democrats with his 40-years proclamation.
The thing that pisses me off is the cover of this book, with Carville's arm slung all chummily over Obama's shoulder*. This is the same fucking dick of a Clinton hack who shat all over Obama on CNN until he got bounced for his unethical slime jobs. The same smarmy douchebag who called Obama a "hit dog" and called Bill Richardson a "Judas" when he supported Obama. This is the same idiotic country-fried fucker who announced that "If [Hillary] gave [Obama] one of her cojones, they'd both have two."
To that last one, Obama smartly replied:
Well, you know, James Carville is well-known for spouting off his mouth without always knowing what he's talking about. And I intend to stay focused on fighting for the American people because what they don't need is 20 more years of performance art on television. And that's what James Carville and a lot of those folks are expert at ... a lot of talk and not getting things done for the American people.
And you know? That assessment is still right on. This book cover is the worst kind of opportunism from a book-shilling huckster. In this case, fuck the big tent and fuck James Carville right in his stupid rat-fink eye.
*And you'll note they had to fake Carville touching Obama for the book cover. This is probably because Obama knows that Carville is a complete and utter shit and would not touch him in a real life with the proverbial 10-foot shit-touching pole.
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What an insipid looking book. Does this complete the trilogy of Emerging Republican Majority, and Dow 32,000?
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Carville is a typical Louisiana good ol' boy. Cozy up to whomever is in power, and hope some of it trickles down. State government here is lousy with them.
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Wow, that's a horrible photoshop job... the shoulder hand is in the wrong place, and looks like it's someone else's hand entirely.
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I'm sure Obama would be very polite to Carville in public.
But yeah, this 40 more years shit is really jinxing it. That really depends on the Republicans' not getting their shit together, particularly dumping the culture wars.
But yeah, this 40 more years shit is really jinxing it. That really depends on the Republicans' not getting their shit together, particularly dumping the culture wars.
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Carville and his ilke are the reason the Green Party gets votes. People marvel that he married a Republican, but it's analagous to being shocked that two actors that played enemies on TV could be friends in real life.
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"...what they don't need is 20 more years of performance art on television."
What I think I love most about Obama is that he calls bullshit when he sees it.
What I think I love most about Obama is that he calls bullshit when he sees it.
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"blah blah blah Carville genius blah blah blah Clintons great blah Unity y'all something bla"
thanks, pretty apt summary. For those who want more detail, read on.
1. Richardson was a Judas and worse, he fucked up and isn't in the cabinet. Remember?
2. Clinton is, aptly supporting President Obama.
Good. She had a nice hit on Cheney today.
3. Carville did a good job getting Clinton elected.
4. Yes, Hillary could spare one cojon for Obama, pendejo.
Maybe then he'd actually be for single payer health care.
Or maybe then he'd be for prosecuting torturers without the grass roots having to push him to do it.
Or, maybe then he would keep his promise to create change by mobilizing that 11 million strong grass roots network he built, but is now letting lie fallow.
6. Clintons great? Well, yeah, if you accept the basic theory that everyone has flaws and limitations.....somehow my originally saying that and generally applying it across the board, seems to set off certain cult members in a manic frenzy...
Bill Clinton was the first dem. to win reelection since oh....FDR? that's pretty good.
And as I always said Obama's a great man and a great leader, too.
He's doing great, but not as great as we need him to do right now.
7. Is Carville shamelessly hyping hmself?
Yes. You need to point it out? Very banal.
Typical Seattleite reaction, btw, very uptight.
And what you don't catch is he's poking fun at himself with his obviously fake fotoshop cover.
Y'all just don't go no sense of humor up heyah.
Carville's been writing these get-up-and-fight books for years, and in fact, Democrats really need to learn how to get up and fight.
Why right here on Slog just the other day, or was it today, it was posted that HEY MAYBE THE DEMS SHOULD PASS HEALTH CARE WITHOUT ASKING PERMISSION FROM THE GOP. Wow what a concept. OR how about this -- let's build a 40 year majority,you know, and actually pass all this shit?
Methinks those are great ideas.
To implement them, you do need unity dumbass.
But really who was it who said he would be all post-partisan and transcendent and work with GOP thus failing to teach America we need single payer we need class warfare we really need change?
That would be Obama, the conciliator.
And don't pick on Loozeanna, okay? Unlike most states, they didn't ask to be part of all y'all in the first place, tu comprends?
The cable news today is all about the torture issue and sadly OBama is not out front on this. Fortunately he's sort of waffled and now is opening the door to prosecutions. In response to grass roots pressure and despite some, like Slog, pretty much ignoring this whole issue. Of everything he's done since getting elected, this is his biggest failure, to me.
No, I do not know if Hillbabe would have been any different.
And it's a big failure of Slog to be going off on minor fish like a Carville cover instead of discussing what we are learning about torture hour by hour right now.
What's emerging is they did the torture to get the link to Iraq. In other words, they wanted to create that ticking time bomb, when it did not exist. This level of corruption goes far beyond what we had imagined.
Oh, don't worry about that, go back to the fact that there was a tough political fight and Hillbabe partisans had the temerity to you know, not fall down all over Obama from day one. Keep up the cultism. That's what's important today.
Ciao--
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thanks, pretty apt summary. For those who want more detail, read on.
1. Richardson was a Judas and worse, he fucked up and isn't in the cabinet. Remember?
2. Clinton is, aptly supporting President Obama.
Good. She had a nice hit on Cheney today.
3. Carville did a good job getting Clinton elected.
4. Yes, Hillary could spare one cojon for Obama, pendejo.
Maybe then he'd actually be for single payer health care.
Or maybe then he'd be for prosecuting torturers without the grass roots having to push him to do it.
Or, maybe then he would keep his promise to create change by mobilizing that 11 million strong grass roots network he built, but is now letting lie fallow.
6. Clintons great? Well, yeah, if you accept the basic theory that everyone has flaws and limitations.....somehow my originally saying that and generally applying it across the board, seems to set off certain cult members in a manic frenzy...
Bill Clinton was the first dem. to win reelection since oh....FDR? that's pretty good.
And as I always said Obama's a great man and a great leader, too.
He's doing great, but not as great as we need him to do right now.
7. Is Carville shamelessly hyping hmself?
Yes. You need to point it out? Very banal.
Typical Seattleite reaction, btw, very uptight.
And what you don't catch is he's poking fun at himself with his obviously fake fotoshop cover.
Y'all just don't go no sense of humor up heyah.
Carville's been writing these get-up-and-fight books for years, and in fact, Democrats really need to learn how to get up and fight.
Why right here on Slog just the other day, or was it today, it was posted that HEY MAYBE THE DEMS SHOULD PASS HEALTH CARE WITHOUT ASKING PERMISSION FROM THE GOP. Wow what a concept. OR how about this -- let's build a 40 year majority,you know, and actually pass all this shit?
Methinks those are great ideas.
To implement them, you do need unity dumbass.
But really who was it who said he would be all post-partisan and transcendent and work with GOP thus failing to teach America we need single payer we need class warfare we really need change?
That would be Obama, the conciliator.
And don't pick on Loozeanna, okay? Unlike most states, they didn't ask to be part of all y'all in the first place, tu comprends?
The cable news today is all about the torture issue and sadly OBama is not out front on this. Fortunately he's sort of waffled and now is opening the door to prosecutions. In response to grass roots pressure and despite some, like Slog, pretty much ignoring this whole issue. Of everything he's done since getting elected, this is his biggest failure, to me.
No, I do not know if Hillbabe would have been any different.
And it's a big failure of Slog to be going off on minor fish like a Carville cover instead of discussing what we are learning about torture hour by hour right now.
What's emerging is they did the torture to get the link to Iraq. In other words, they wanted to create that ticking time bomb, when it did not exist. This level of corruption goes far beyond what we had imagined.
Oh, don't worry about that, go back to the fact that there was a tough political fight and Hillbabe partisans had the temerity to you know, not fall down all over Obama from day one. Keep up the cultism. That's what's important today.
Ciao--
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Forty more years may be a stretch, however the GOP could have and perhaps would have won the 2008 presidential election if they had earlier finalized the Bush/Rove comprehensive immigration policy. It was shot down by short-sighted, conservative Repub's who failed to recognize the importance of the Latino community in conservative politics. Forty years is hightly unlikely, however several generations is not.
If I was a Repub, I'd be sure to excommunicate those in the party that failed to support Bush and Rove on this policy position. They ham-handed the election to the Democrats.
If I was a Repub, I'd be sure to excommunicate those in the party that failed to support Bush and Rove on this policy position. They ham-handed the election to the Democrats.
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re the hand on the shoulder: it's the "don't fuck with me or I'll slide my hand over and throttle you even though we're friends now" threatening placement loved by two-faced assholes everywhere. Very appropriate for Carville, if you ask me.
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You're right on the mark, Paul.
Still, you should watch The War Room sometime. Carville is not all bad, and neither are Begala and Stephanopoulos.
Still, you should watch The War Room sometime. Carville is not all bad, and neither are Begala and Stephanopoulos.
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@14: "Or maybe then he'd be for prosecuting torturers without the grass roots having to push him to do it."
Obama's one step ahead of you, bro. If Obama spearheads the investigation, it's a partison witch hunt. On the other hand, if he just releases all the documents to the public and get's out of the way, it's citizen's demanding accountability from their leaders.
Which, do you suppose, is more effective?
Obama's one step ahead of you, bro. If Obama spearheads the investigation, it's a partison witch hunt. On the other hand, if he just releases all the documents to the public and get's out of the way, it's citizen's demanding accountability from their leaders.
Which, do you suppose, is more effective?
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@20: I love The War Room! What a great documentary, and Carville was awesome. I even linked to his climactic speech the day before this last election.
But! The motherfucker was right once and now we owe him a living? What's he done for us lately? Besides marry a Republican, fight tirelessly for the losing side in the Democratic primary and write a bunch of irrelevant books, I mean?
But! The motherfucker was right once and now we owe him a living? What's he done for us lately? Besides marry a Republican, fight tirelessly for the losing side in the Democratic primary and write a bunch of irrelevant books, I mean?
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James Carville is the greatest single piece of evidence extant that David Icke is right. The man looks like a lizard and acts like a snake.
I'm not the only one who thinks he looks like a lizard, right? He's preternaturally shiny and his eyes are always beady and half-closed.
I'm not the only one who thinks he looks like a lizard, right? He's preternaturally shiny and his eyes are always beady and half-closed.
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Spouting off without knowing what I'm talking about: but wouldn't it make sense if James Carville was a masochist? That might explain Matlin. It's rude of me to say it out loud, it's just that I can really picture it.
Are there masochists in Louisiana?
Are there masochists in Louisiana?
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I hope it aint to late to get in on this.
I bought Carville's book "We're right and they are wrong".
I'd so much like that $15 back. Nothing but drivel about him and his (bride of Satan) wife.
The unforgivable part is that he attempted to Pimp the memory of Huey Long in a less than worthwhile revivile of "All th King's Men."
James. you got lucky with Bill once. Now shut up.
I bought Carville's book "We're right and they are wrong".
I'd so much like that $15 back. Nothing but drivel about him and his (bride of Satan) wife.
The unforgivable part is that he attempted to Pimp the memory of Huey Long in a less than worthwhile revivile of "All th King's Men."
James. you got lucky with Bill once. Now shut up.
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Carville is a snarky attention whore asshole. Who would possibly be pathetic enough to read his shit?
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@14: thanks for that. but the last paragraph would have been sufficient. For those of you who didn't click more:
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Oh, don't worry about that, go back to the fact that there was a tough political fight and Hillbabe partisans had the temerity to you know, not fall down all over Obama from day one. Keep up the cultism. That's what's important today.
"
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Oh, don't worry about that, go back to the fact that there was a tough political fight and Hillbabe partisans had the temerity to you know, not fall down all over Obama from day one. Keep up the cultism. That's what's important today.
"
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This is the same fucking dick of a Clinton hack who shat all over Obama on CNN until he got bounced for his unethical slime jobs. The same smarmy douchebag who called Obama a "hit dog" and called Bill Richardson a "Judas" when he supported Obama. This is the same idiotic country-fried fucker who announced that "If [Hillary] gave [Obama] one of her cojones, they'd both have two."
Well I kind of agree with that last one.
Well I kind of agree with that last one.
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Thanks for calling bullshit on this, Paul. And yeah, I'm not an advocate for book-burning, but every once in a while, something like this comes out and I'm suddenly thinking...well, let's make an exception.
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@ 14 & 30 - Really? Are you just never going to get over the fact that Hillary lost? And not because she was "robbed" or the media was "in the tank" for Obama, but becuase she ran a god-awful campaign that, like her husband, jettisoned the liberal base of the party? I'm really concerned about you people. This endless PUMA bullshit is really disgraceful. Enough already.
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@34: I've been over it. I'm glad that Obama is president. I never disliked the guy, I just liked Hillary more.
and, BTW, Obama has also jettisoned the liberal base of the party - he just waited until after the election to do it.
and, BTW, Obama has also jettisoned the liberal base of the party - he just waited until after the election to do it.
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@14: it's hilarious how you defend hillary and attack obama for having no balls on single payer, prosecuting torturers, etc. when hillary didn't support any of those things either
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Thanks - now I don't feel bad at all for not attending his lecture at the UW Tacoma campus this past Monday (which was completely sold out, by the way - he apparently still has his supporters out there)
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