I know you know this, but there is no reason you "have" to see that ever, even now. Between Shuttle Express, the 194, and friends, paying $45 for a ride to the airport is not a necessity.
@2 - um, it doesn't run late enough, sometimes when you get in late and eventually pick up the bags, the bus drops you off downtown after all the bus lines have stopped running.
The 194 is the best thing ever -- it will be a sad day when it goes away, even if Dan "I don't ride buses" Savage never used it. It's faster and cheaper than the train will be, although as Will points out, it doesn't run late enough at night and the 174 is really no alternative.
As far as July 18th goes, I am sure we will be regaled with some douchebaggy post from Dan bitching about the bus shuttle service between Tukwila and the airport.
I've always enjoyed taking the 194....agreed that having to take the 174 back when my plane arrives after 9pm is no joy, but it's sure better than taking a cab. Anyone who chooses to pay $45 for a cab when there is a perfectly good alternative has no valid complaint.
So is it confirmed that Metro is decommissioning route 194 on July 18, or are you guys just rumor-mongering like all good commenters? If the former, does anyone have a link to a press release to that effect?
Posted by
shub-negrorath on April 20, 2009 at 4:25 PM
The proposal hasn't been approved, but if it is, the 194 would be discontinued in Feb of 2010—after light rail service all the way to SeaTac has started (in theory).
Posted by
shub-negrorath on April 20, 2009 at 4:32 PM
Did anyone know that the 194 is currently on reroute through SoDo until June and has been since March? And that it will be on extended reroute from 2010 through the end of construction on the South End of the viaduct?
I've written to Metro/ST asking to not cancel the current schedule of #194--I suggest you all do the same if you love it as much. It is a good, cheap faster than light rail (10 minutes faster, plus the bus stop is directly in front of the terminal vs. a 5 minute walk from Seatac LINK station) way to take to to the airport in general--coming back after 9p on that 174 is lousy though. I think there would probably still be enough money in the budget to retain it, perhaps lessening its frequency during peak times since the peak traffic would make lessen its efficacy, but to get rid of the 194 as a was to (minimally perhaps?) boost LINK's post 9pm numbers is just plane mean.
I do not see Dan schlepping all his bags on the train instead of the bus. If the 194 stops, all the same people he doesn't want to be around will be on the train next to him. I get the feeling he is a door to door kind of guy. Maybe he will eventually be ok with that.
Also, you would think that after living here for so long, he would have plenty of people to trade airport rides with.
Posted by
seattle bike guy on April 20, 2009 at 7:55 PM
Come on people, you don't get it. While Dan may be a good advocate (sometimes misguided) for bike and transit folks, he makes too much money with the book deals, speaking engagements etc. to take public transit in Seattle to the airport. He's the owner of a nice house on CH, has a son and is constantly traveling. He can dispute this by releasing some tax info, but he is rich (fucking) compared to most of the commenters here.
Posted by
don't you people get it? on April 20, 2009 at 8:03 PM
@17 - Why the hell are you timing your arrivals so that you get there at midnight? I mean, are you saving money on the airfare? Because if you're forced to take a cab, why not just pay to arrive before midnight?
Dan doesn't really give a shit about the $45 fare. Like all syndicated columnists, traveling speakers, and TV wonks, he certainly has an expense account.
@6 - it might be longer than few months. Sound Transit's website, which used to say the airport extension would be open in September, now says it will add, "a 1.7-mile extension to Seattle-Tacoma International Airport by the end of that year (2009)." http://www.soundtransit.org/x1171.xml
Posted by
(un)expected delay on April 20, 2009 at 11:14 PM
God, I hate the 194. I have to take it to get home and am SICK of having to ride with all the drunks, obnoxious smells, and everybody's freaking huge pieces of luggage (holiday weekends are a BLAST!!!). I just want to get home in peace and quiet. I cannot WAIT until light rail starts up, even if I have to drive to the station. Of course, I will still have to ride with all the same people and their luggage…
@38 – originally the Seatac-Seattle route was to start up “Spring 2009”. And then the web site dropped the “Spring” and said just that it was starting up [sometime in] 2009. Thank God they’ve finally figured it out.
I've found that taking the 194 TO the airport works great, but a cab home from the airport is well worth the $40-odd bucks, because I don't want to transfer downtown, or ride the 174 ever, or deal with shuttle express driving me from hell to breakfast for 75% of the cost of a cab. Maybe light rail will be better, maybe I'll still be grabbing a cab at 1am on sunday morning because fuck a bunch of hour long loser cruiser rides.
Posted by
boogerhead on April 21, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Jeezus Dan - why do you insist on bitching about something you choose consciously every time you go to the airport. Find a friend w/ a car, take a bus or STFU.
Posted by
STFUaboutItAlready on April 21, 2009 at 11:30 AM
I don't get the people who keep claiming the 194 is cheaper than light rail will be. The fare is exactly the same. Do you guys just randomly make stuff up when you're not sure, or what?
I'm hoping the 194 continues running after light rail starts. The more transit options the better, as far as I'm concerned!
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