The counter-protester dude was kinda useless. I mean, after someone said "it's not about paying taxes, it's about wasting them," he just fumbled. Points for trying and all, but he really walked straight into that one.
The Slog is a piece of shit because the people who work for the Slog have lots of neocon friends who stand to gain a lot of power from the downfall of America's middle class. Fuck you, Slog. This story deserves a lot more respect than you have for your own species, you paid-for losers.
I AGREE WITH JIM HARMON AND WHILE WERE AT IT WHERE IS THE COVERAGE OF ALTERNATIVE QUEERS, SELF-ACTUALIZED FAIRIES AND DYKES OF SIZE AND OR COLOR SINCE NONE OF THEM FIT IN DAN SAVAGES RPLACE IDEAL AND WOULDNT BE ALLOWED ON HIS PRECIOUS VASHON I GUESS THEY DONT COUNT
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PISSED-OFF QUEER on April 16, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Someone explain to them what "tea bag" means, fercrissakes.
Also, Sweden and Denmark have the highest tax rates in the world and their countries are waaaaaaaaay nicer than ours. And guess what? They've got waaaaaaaay more freedom.
Guess who has the lowest tax rates: Qatar. They have no personal income tax so none of your wages would be taxed if you lived in Qatar. Too bad most of their foreign labor is forced labor. But, hey, their slaves don't have to pay income tax, so you'd probably would find Qatar far superior to Sweden, Denmark, and France...those horrible, horrible hell holes.
@ 13: What is with these anti-tax folks warning that - oooh, scary - we're going to turn into France? Have any of them been to France? I would love to live in France. Their children are well-educated, healthcare is affordable, and they have access to cheap wine and delicious cheese.
what do all these "with us or against us" nutjobs have against the altruistic aims of things like world war 1, world war 2, ending the holoacust, ending slavery.
Evil, evil France's marginal tax rates top out at around 50 percent, which is what our tax rates were during most of Reagan's presidency. But they're so socialist, donchaknow?
OMG, the Stranger is just BUSTIN' out with neocon friends. Like pustules. I heard that Bill Kristol is redecorating the office bathroom AS I TYPE THIS.
I think it's safe to say that most of the tea-baggers (hee hee!) will be paying less in taxes under Obama. And also that bailing out giant, powerful corporations is hardly socialism.
This "France is Socialist" meme is hilarious. Rightists in Europe sure as hell aren't against taxes or medical care-- but get into spending for other things and watch the fur fly.
I dunno ... It's incredibly refreshing to me to see a bunch of conservative douche-bags marginalized, freaking out about taxes/God/abortion/socialism, and reduced to comparing the US to pre-WW2 Germany. They are not unified and the message is incoherent. Fucking awesome!
Wow, wow, wow. They really are out of their minds, aren't they? We have to reject altruism? We have to give up living for others? How the fuck this twisted "moral code" jibes with anything resembling Christianity is way beyond me.
It's something of a relief to see that there isn't yet a racial component to the shit that goes on in public - it would have been easy to add a star of David to that hideous list of slanderous logos they plastered Barney Frank with. And of course Obama.
Still, we can all see it's only a matter of time. Scary stuff. Well done Paul, we need more of this kind of journalism.
The Ayn Rand follower was so adorably confused. He gave a good regurgitation of the party line but failed to notice the irony of supporting a protest by the people Objectivists hate. Objectivists reject both Democrats and Republicans as moochers. They are just mooching for different crowds.
Comparing America today to the America in "Atlas Shrugged" is just like comparing it to Nazi Germany. Actually it's a crazier comparison.
Go live in your gulch already. The rest of us have work to do.
Posted by
kresblamania on April 17, 2009 at 6:41 AM
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You guys are wrong.
counter dude had it down cold...
You give all your money to the government and don't question how they use it;
they know better than us what should be done with our money;
and you are greedy if you don't cheerfully go along with it.
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if you disagree maybe you're not as Liberal as you think on April 17, 2009 at 7:36 AM
Paul, I feel for you. A serious bookie being forced to stand by and just listen as paeans are sung of Ayn Rand is just torture. I can only hope that off camera you told that lout that Ayn Rand is just self-indulgent tripe that simplifies reality beyond all recognition.
@27 - "How the fuck this twisted "moral code" jibes with anything resembling Christianity is way beyond me."
That's just it ... It doesn't. That's why the strange marriage between fiscal conservatives and social conservatives was destined for failure. It also shows why Bush was such an effective leader for the right back in 2000. He unified these factions. Of course, by the end, he'd pissed off both groups.
It's also why Sarah Palin is dangerous. Despite her obvious lack of qualifications and intellect, she's another "uniter".
@31 - It's not his ideas that were bad (although it's hard to say because he was SO inarticulate). What was wrong with him was his inability to communicate in a way that was at all effective. He couldn't explain himself to the camera, his sign was a mess, and he couldn't engage that other guy (who was a great deal MORE articulate) in real discussion.
I'm pretty sure I'm actually MORE liberal than I think I am, if that's even possible. That doesn't change the fact that that guy was an epic fail.
@31: Uh, no. If you believe that everyone on the left is complacent about where our tax dollars go, you're just the right-wing version of the poor kid in that video. And you've been successfully wedged out of the real discussion by the teabaggers at Fox.
The reason the "Tea Parties" were stupid is precisely because they had nothing to do with taxation (most participants will see a tax cut this year) and everything to do with a false and sanctimonious claim that representative democracy has disenfranched them. Not only is this false, but the premise of their entire disagreement with current policy is that deficit spending in a recession is "wasteful."
And anyone who's paying attention knows better. We're in the midst of a dramatic supply-side surplus, and people are losing their jobs, hours, homes, and liquidity because of it. The stupidity of the tea baggers isn't their objection to "out of control spending," it's their refusal to engage with the real reasons that we need government stimulus of demand in order to stave off the worst-case scenario (i.e., 20% unemployment, a lost generation).
Really. That's the question you're being asked to address. And instead, you all keep repeating that Obama is a socialist, and that the government's budget exists on a scale you have trouble conceiving. Your fears and neuroses are not valid public policy positions.
@40: Oh, I see. So the tea partiers are really just impish trickster spirits, as opposed to a movement built around a populist sentiment or quantifiable intellectual position.
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