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News & ArtsThursday, April 9, 2009
Crime Another Woman Robbed by Group of Girls in University District
Posted by Jonah Spangenthal-Lee on Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:31 PM
According to a Seattle Police Department report, another woman was robbed and assaulted in the University District last night by a group of teenage girls.
Around 11pm last night, a woman called Seatle Police to report that she'd been robbed near NE 41st St. and Eastlake Avenue.
The woman told officers that two or three young women ran up behind her, pushed her to the ground and took her backpack, which contained a laptop. According to a police report, the woman "did not get a good look at her attackers but noted that they were young."
Officers searched the area and stopped a group of three teenage girls, who apparently tried to give bogus home addresses to police. According to the report, the girls "even stated that they did not know where they lived at one point."
Police brought the victim of the robbery to the scene, but she was unsure if the three girls were the same ones that attacked her. Officers attempted to contact the girls' parents, but were unable to, so they transported the girls to the Spruce Street youth center, a social service agency that collaborates with law enforcement.
Last week, Seattle Police received several reports of robberies and assaults in the University District and Lake City, allegedly perpetrated by a group of three teenage girls.
Police could not confirm whether this most recent robbery was related to the the other incidents.
[Confidential to any Slog Happy attendees: watch your back.]
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Just a word of warning - it's not just the girls - there have been some young 20-something men who hang out near there and try to trick you into giving them bus fare are let them use their cell phone and then jack your wallet or purse.
If you feel unsafe, Metro Cinemas runs late and so does Kinko's.
If you feel unsafe, Metro Cinemas runs late and so does Kinko's.
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do these dumb birds have any idea how many easy marks they could have if only they went after men? and advertised i mean it isnt my main kink but every once in a while even i would stroll through the u district with cash hanging out of my pockets just you know so i could be knocked down and robbed by 3 teenage girls
guys? am i right? im so right and wed never call the cops
guys? am i right? im so right and wed never call the cops
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Really Will exactly where at 41st and Eastlake do these guys hang out?
Will, hint hint, there is no such intersection but I'm sure you've been there.
Probably there now.
Will, hint hint, there is no such intersection but I'm sure you've been there.
Probably there now.
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I'm just waiting until they rob some guy...can you imagine...he'll never live it down.
C'mon, tell us again...how you got robbed...by girls!
C'mon, tell us again...how you got robbed...by girls!
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Apparently the PI has a better sense of the city than the Stranger:
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/arc…
"near Northeast 41st Street and 11th Avenue Northeast."
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/arc…
"near Northeast 41st Street and 11th Avenue Northeast."
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well, i think he sort of got it right on the eastlake....technically they are sorta the same street....if you drive down eastlake it will turn into 11th without trying
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@8: BINGO!
It's pretty clear in the police report, but god forbid The fucking Stranger be bothered with that...
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/lib…
It's pretty clear in the police report, but god forbid The fucking Stranger be bothered with that...
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/lib…
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The map I am looking at shows that NE 41st Crosses both 11th Ave NE and Eastlake Ave NE so it actually could have been either.
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Hey, remember that guy who got in trouble for saying that Americans were cowards when it came to having frank discussions about race?
When I was in grade school, there was a black girl gangs who liked to beat white boys like me.
When I was in living in SF, black girl gangs were beating people in Potrero hill. They were using canes. That shit hurts.
I have never, in all my life, heard of a white girl gang putting the beat-down on citizens walking on the street. The most criminal thing I've ever seen a white girl gang do was to ditch class, loiter in public, and smoke.
This is a cultural difference that does not track with income level or education.
When I was in grade school, there was a black girl gangs who liked to beat white boys like me.
When I was in living in SF, black girl gangs were beating people in Potrero hill. They were using canes. That shit hurts.
I have never, in all my life, heard of a white girl gang putting the beat-down on citizens walking on the street. The most criminal thing I've ever seen a white girl gang do was to ditch class, loiter in public, and smoke.
This is a cultural difference that does not track with income level or education.
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I'm trying to remember how "Reform School Girls" started but all I can genuinely remember is the shower scenes and the part where Edna stomped on a kitten.
God, I loved that movie.
God, I loved that movie.
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@13,
A 400+ year history of racism (notwithstanding these admittedly awful and completely unacceptable reactions to it) couldn't have anything to do with it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Byrd_….
Naw, not at all.
A 400+ year history of racism (notwithstanding these admittedly awful and completely unacceptable reactions to it) couldn't have anything to do with it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Byrd_….
Naw, not at all.
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@15: So is the theory here that these black girls are wreaking vengeance for the murder of Byrd 10 years ago at the hands of a gang of redneck Texas white boys by beating on white girls in Seattle?
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@15 No excuse. No excuse at all. Wrong doesn't make right. By your logic, I'd be able to cut off your penis with a rusty can opener and we'd be square for all of man's violence toward women. Easy, breezy, beautiful.
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Did you hear about the teenage kid who stabbed that old lady and took photos of the dead body with his cellphone?
This is way worse than that.
This is way worse than that.
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Waaaaah! Blacks never commit violent crimes, and when they do, it is not their fault, because they have been irreparibly transformed into violent retarded animals by 500 years of whitey oppresshum! Waaaaaah!
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It really doesn't matter WHY blacks are so violent and retarded. The fact remains that tons of blacks are violent and retarded. I just don't like violent retarded people no matter what their reason or excuse is for being violent and retarded.
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Black people fail because, unlike white people, they don't know how to kill anybody. They should take lessons from Kyle Huff, that kid in Bremerton, that guy in Kent, the dude who executed his 5 kids and so on and so forth.
Sorry, black folks-- you just look like that angry dude at a frat party that gets kicked out for fighting and then gets made fun of because people thought you were a douche.
Sorry, black folks-- you just look like that angry dude at a frat party that gets kicked out for fighting and then gets made fun of because people thought you were a douche.
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@24 - you are right. Whites are better at killing, just like they are better at pretty much everything else. Blacks go for flashy "bling bling" style violence, like holding their pistols sideways "gangsta style", which is the stupidest way to shoot a pistol. No wonder those retards have such a miserable shot-to-hit ratio. Someone should teach the negroes to shoot properly so they kill each other off faster.
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@15
So what accounts for the way they treat each other in Africa? 10,000 years of racism toward each other?
So what accounts for the way they treat each other in Africa? 10,000 years of racism toward each other?
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Oh yeah, now I remember how "Reform School Girls" started...
This sounds close enough to the movie.
You think these girls, once they go to juvie, will have to kick somebody's ass immediately or risk being made a bitch?
Hey, wait... am I in the wrong room here?
Bunch of people that look like Klansmen.
And a few douchey hipsters teaching history.
Man... and I wanted to talk about incarcerated women OTHER than Foxy Knoxy...
This sounds close enough to the movie.
You think these girls, once they go to juvie, will have to kick somebody's ass immediately or risk being made a bitch?
Hey, wait... am I in the wrong room here?
Bunch of people that look like Klansmen.
And a few douchey hipsters teaching history.
Man... and I wanted to talk about incarcerated women OTHER than Foxy Knoxy...
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Because of what happened to James Byrd these poor girls are so stupid they can't even remember where they live! So they needed a cell phone to call their mom to come get them! Obviously!
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If black violence is excused/mitigated by slavery/segregation, then the killers of Byrd should be excused because they were raped by blacks in prison before they killed Byrd.
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@31: lets test your theory, with these Dylan lyrics:
"All of rubins cards were marked in advance
The trial was a pig-circus, he never had a chance.
The judge made rubins witnesses drunkards from the slums
To the white folks who watched he was a revolutionary bum
And to the black folks he was just a crazy nigger.
No one doubted that he pulled the trigger.
And though they could not produce the gun,
The d.a. said he was the one who did the deed
And the all-white jury agreed."
you may be right, or it may be all about context.
"All of rubins cards were marked in advance
The trial was a pig-circus, he never had a chance.
The judge made rubins witnesses drunkards from the slums
To the white folks who watched he was a revolutionary bum
And to the black folks he was just a crazy nigger.
No one doubted that he pulled the trigger.
And though they could not produce the gun,
The d.a. said he was the one who did the deed
And the all-white jury agreed."
you may be right, or it may be all about context.
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"James Byrd"
Right, do you think this thugesses even know who Byrd was, let alone spell his name?
Right, do you think this thugesses even know who Byrd was, let alone spell his name?
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Time to raise the draw bridges on the canals and let the northside deal with our typical crime problems of cats in trees, double parking and kids driving around in their parents cars yelling 'yuppie' at lawyers going for sushi.
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See what legalizing gay marriage gets you? Everybody knows that knocking someone down and stealing their backpack is a way of imposing their goal of gay marriage on you. Who cares if these girls are black? They're obviously GAY! And they want to marry YOU! RUN!
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Movies and TV != real life. Congratulations on demonstrating just how fucking stupid you are, you fucking pinhead. Here's some advice: try to actually leave your house once in a while. Although don't forget your Pampers. Wouldn't want you to soil your clothing the first time a black guy looks in your general direction.
If white people are so superior, why are you such a scared, little pussy?
Blacks go for flashy "bling bling" style violence, like holding their pistols sideways "gangsta style", which is the stupidest way to shoot a pistol.
Movies and TV != real life. Congratulations on demonstrating just how fucking stupid you are, you fucking pinhead. Here's some advice: try to actually leave your house once in a while. Although don't forget your Pampers. Wouldn't want you to soil your clothing the first time a black guy looks in your general direction.
If white people are so superior, why are you such a scared, little pussy?
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Shhh....no one tell the Stormfront trolls that we all can trace our ancestry back to Ethiopia - it might kill them.
Hmmm, on second thought...
Hmmm, on second thought...
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Are you too pc to call these people a gang, if I know correctly these bitches have dudes waiting around the corner. Welcome to the UW, can I have that?
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@38
Actually movies and TV and Rap lyrics do = real life,
for the uneducated thugs we are talking about.
They emulate what their 'culture' crams into them. Even on lily liberal slog one can read of some banger standing in the middle of the street with his pistol held sideways firing.
Actually movies and TV and Rap lyrics do = real life,
for the uneducated thugs we are talking about.
They emulate what their 'culture' crams into them. Even on lily liberal slog one can read of some banger standing in the middle of the street with his pistol held sideways firing.
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Wow... and I thought it was ugly over in the marriage equity Slog comments.
It's good to know that the racists are less eloquent than the homophobes. It makes it easier to identify and marginalize them.
It's good to know that the racists are less eloquent than the homophobes. It makes it easier to identify and marginalize them.
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@20 -- From the police report:
She said that a group of two or three black females ran up behind her and pushed her to the ground.
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As someone who works in the area, I appreciate having a description of the three young women. Some of you might call that racist: I call it being aware. If a man was going around raping children in your neighborhood, you'd demand a description of the suspect, wouldn't you?
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UW Police do the community a disservice by expunging specifics that would help potential victims more readily identify the threats toward which they are advised to be on alert.
Slog PC Police do young black men and women a disservice by denying, excusing, enabling and encouraging them to deal themselves and their friends into the criminal justice system.
Slog PC Police do young black men and women a disservice by denying, excusing, enabling and encouraging them to deal themselves and their friends into the criminal justice system.
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@45: There are two groups here that are pissed off that the race -- sorry "description" of the attackers was not in the post: Group 1 wants to know the description of the attackers so that they can be aware of people matching the description -- not racist.
Group 2 wants to know their description so that if it supports theories so they can crow about it. Those people are racist.
Which group are you really in?
Group 2 wants to know their description so that if it supports theories so they can crow about it. Those people are racist.
Which group are you really in?
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Cracker Jack @ 47 -- Are you in the group that pretends young black men (and women) are NOT disproportionately involved in violent crime? The same group that pretends this pretending will somehow work to the benefit of my young black friends and family? The group that casually labels people "racist" in a sad effort to define an out-group to feel superior to?
That dually-bigoted group of yours ... that's a group I'm happily not in.
That dually-bigoted group of yours ... that's a group I'm happily not in.
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RonK: I don't pretend anything. I'm appalled by the blatant and overt racism being spewed in this thread. I actually DO think that Jonah should have given the full description of the attackers as given by the victim for the first reason I gave. However, I denounce those who will then use that description as fodder for the "black folk are inherently criminal" agrument.
You have assigned me to a group based on assumptions that YOU have made about me and my motives. You are not dealing with me but with your self created puppet of me. Have fun with him.
You have assigned me to a group based on assumptions that YOU have made about me and my motives. You are not dealing with me but with your self created puppet of me. Have fun with him.
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Yo Cracker, black people aren't inherently criminal, just extremely disproportionately so. Go ahead and deny it.
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wait...did i miss something? are there only 3 black girls in the Udist? because a cop saw 3 girls walking together after the fact, they're immediately guilty? i didn't get that from the report.
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@50: Give me proof. Give me real proof that can stand up to criticism and refutation and I won't deny it. You believing it's so or cherry-picking cases does not make it so.
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All anyone has to do is pick up any newspaper from any major city in the USA and at least 80% of the violent crime stories for any given week will have been committed by blacks or "latinos". Give it a try!
Wake the fuck up to reality and pick up a fucking newspaper you nauseatingly naive white Seattle "progressive" retarded douches!!!
Wake the fuck up to reality and pick up a fucking newspaper you nauseatingly naive white Seattle "progressive" retarded douches!!!
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@54 (and 50),
100 years ago, you were reading similar stories in the same papers about my Irish, Italian, and Jewish ancestors - the European"out" groups who comprised the urban poor at the time.
100 years ago, you were reading similar stories in the same papers about my Irish, Italian, and Jewish ancestors - the European"out" groups who comprised the urban poor at the time.
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@55 - the only difference is that the Irish, Italians, and Jews had all created their own highly refined civilized culturesin Europe, complete with great literature and astounding architecture, and in contrast the Africans still have not created highly refined civilized cultures, and 100 years ago most barely knew anything about the wheel, let alone civilized behavior. The only high civilization or and high culture that Africans have today has been what has been imposed upon them or what they copied from Europeans. Left to their own devices they revert back to savage barbarism and baby-rape, as is evidenced by Africa's condition today.
Please do not try to actually claim that African cultures from 100 years ago were anywhere close to the same level of civilization and cultural and intellectual achievement as the Irish, Italians, and Jews, because that is so fucking ridiculous it is laughable.
Please do not try to actually claim that African cultures from 100 years ago were anywhere close to the same level of civilization and cultural and intellectual achievement as the Irish, Italians, and Jews, because that is so fucking ridiculous it is laughable.
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I always find it funny that Seattle liberal-types are always shrieking about "celebrate diversity", but will vigorously deny any actual "difference".
I guess to Seattle liberals, "diversity" is only skin deep and does not actually mean real differences, unlike the real definition of the word "diversity".
Oh well, celebrate diversity anyway, and always remember that diversity means DIFFERENCES.
I guess to Seattle liberals, "diversity" is only skin deep and does not actually mean real differences, unlike the real definition of the word "diversity".
Oh well, celebrate diversity anyway, and always remember that diversity means DIFFERENCES.
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Do black people have such fear based racism as we white people do, with all of our "civilization"?
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@58 - yeah, because there is absolutely no reason to be afraid of the people who make up about 3% of the USA but commit over 52% of all murders and over 34% of all rapes.
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@15.... I never heard anyone summarize what happened to James Byrd as "tension between communities" unlike the Crown Heights Lynching on a Jewish man by a black lynch mob. To this day most black folks who know about it are apologists for it. Now try to bad mouth Mr Byrd (long criminal record) or Sean Bell and the shit hits the fan. I heard Ice Cube on the radio a while back STILL justifying hate crimes on Asians. He said they dissed his mama. Wow, maybe James Byrd dissed someone's mama. Now if Julia Roberts had made the same excuse to justify hatin on blacks she, the all powerful white woman, would be spending the rest of her life unemployed. White priveledge!
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"I always find it funny that Seattle liberal-types are always shrieking about "celebrate diversity", but will vigorously deny any actual "difference". "
Well it's easy to celebrate diversity in a city with one of the smallest black populations that is being pushed out of the city thru' gentrification. One of my most popular party games I play up here in the Great White North (north of the ship canal, south of 85th) is telling all the other assemble white liberals how much I like Seattle because of its diversity. Everyone seems to agree! I love it.
Now pass white bread please.
Well it's easy to celebrate diversity in a city with one of the smallest black populations that is being pushed out of the city thru' gentrification. One of my most popular party games I play up here in the Great White North (north of the ship canal, south of 85th) is telling all the other assemble white liberals how much I like Seattle because of its diversity. Everyone seems to agree! I love it.
Now pass white bread please.
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this thread is a little bit frightening. i know some believe that relatively unmoderated comments on blogs provide us with some kind of insight on the real world...the real way people think...and some sort of enlightenment and introspection that we don't get anywhere else...but this is scary.
So posts with the N-word are deleted? I'm kinda wondering if about half this thread should be deleted. maybe that is slog-comment heresy...but sheesh.
So posts with the N-word are deleted? I'm kinda wondering if about half this thread should be deleted. maybe that is slog-comment heresy...but sheesh.
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This thread is frightening me by destroying my naive and unrealistic view of the world.
Please shelter me from facts that contradict the dogma of the Progressive Liberal Orthodox Faith!
Please shelter me from facts that contradict the dogma of the Progressive Liberal Orthodox Faith!
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Seattle Liberals are totally hip with the concept of Negroes, as long as they don't have to know any personally.
Seattle Liberals are totally hip with the concept of Negroes, as long as they don't have to know any personally.
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Mr X @ 55 -- You are correct (in limited instance) with respect to your Irish and Italian ancestors (and Germans likewise) in their first ~20 years of immigrant influx, though not about your Jewish ancestors (and eastern European immigrants generally likewise).
However, more than 100 years ago urban blacks were out-murdering each other vis a vis their white counterparts by significant margins, and these margins (a rough order of magnitude over the past century) have persisted or increased even as their comparative socio-economic disadvantage decreased. (cf Short, Poverty, Ethnicity and Violent Crime, 1997, pp. 8-9)
This is a longstanding puzzle to criminologists. (If you like, you can confine your study to black criminologist, starting with W.E.B. Du Bois in the late 19th century.)
However, more than 100 years ago urban blacks were out-murdering each other vis a vis their white counterparts by significant margins, and these margins (a rough order of magnitude over the past century) have persisted or increased even as their comparative socio-economic disadvantage decreased. (cf Short, Poverty, Ethnicity and Violent Crime, 1997, pp. 8-9)
This is a longstanding puzzle to criminologists. (If you like, you can confine your study to black criminologist, starting with W.E.B. Du Bois in the late 19th century.)
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