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Politics / Chow The First Seder
Posted by Eli Sanders on Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Via the ECB-adored and truly quite impressive ObamaFoodorama:
Tonight at sundown is the beginning of the Jewish religious holiday of Pesach, or Passover, an eight-day-long memorial observance of the Israelites fleeing out of Egyptian slavery in Biblical times. According to a White house spokesperson, the Obamas will hold a Passover seder tomorrow at the White House, on the second night of the Jewish holiday. It's apparently the first time a president has actually hosted a seder at the White House.
Take that, conflicted Florida Jews! I predict images in Friday's papers of Obama—who of course would love a seder and its round-the-table storytelling—wearing a yarmulke and reading from a Haggadah and (breathe calmly, bubbe) maybe even eating gefilte fish.
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I hope they serve the traditional dish of spaghetti and meatballs that all true followers of the Flying Spaghetti Monster expect! (cheese optional) (substitute tofu if you are vegan)
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I've always found Seders to be moving and fun(four glasses of wine; yes I'm a light weight). What could be more American than celebrating the liberation of a people that was quickly followed by those same people engaging in religious massacre?
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I have good memories celebrating Seders in the cafeteria while attending Catholic schools as a kid.
I once told this to a co-worker when I briefly worked at a Christian TV station (one of THOSE Christians that broadcasted Paul and Jan Crouch's show). She said she was surprised and I was kind of surprised that she was surprised that THAT would be observed by Catholics. Now, I am not surprised at peoples general and accepted (mostly off-base) hostility toward Catholics (and former Catholics like myself).
I now sometimes get a chance to observe this with friends of mine.
I once told this to a co-worker when I briefly worked at a Christian TV station (one of THOSE Christians that broadcasted Paul and Jan Crouch's show). She said she was surprised and I was kind of surprised that she was surprised that THAT would be observed by Catholics. Now, I am not surprised at peoples general and accepted (mostly off-base) hostility toward Catholics (and former Catholics like myself).
I now sometimes get a chance to observe this with friends of mine.
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Hey@4 ever know anyone who had a loved one killed while eating a a local pizza parlor or while meeting friends in a cafe
?? Oh thats right Jews are expendable. Shut up and go home.
?? Oh thats right Jews are expendable. Shut up and go home.
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@4
I assume you are referring to African Americans?
Damn, ever heard of the Crown Heights Lynching? Freddy Fashion Mart? Malcolm X? Louis Farrakhan? Nikki Tinker? Cynthea McKinney's campaign manager? The pongroms in LA and NY of Koreans? The lynch last year of a hispanic man in Austin? The glamorization of buying and selling women? A lot of black folk seem to think the KKK was wickedly great cause a whole lot of em emulate them... they are sadly enough often referred to as "civil rights" or "community" leaders. Oh yeah, and there's the lynching of the Tuba Man... James Parlone, lynched for asking a young black women to go around a traffic circle... etc, etc.
I assume you are referring to African Americans?
Damn, ever heard of the Crown Heights Lynching? Freddy Fashion Mart? Malcolm X? Louis Farrakhan? Nikki Tinker? Cynthea McKinney's campaign manager? The pongroms in LA and NY of Koreans? The lynch last year of a hispanic man in Austin? The glamorization of buying and selling women? A lot of black folk seem to think the KKK was wickedly great cause a whole lot of em emulate them... they are sadly enough often referred to as "civil rights" or "community" leaders. Oh yeah, and there's the lynching of the Tuba Man... James Parlone, lynched for asking a young black women to go around a traffic circle... etc, etc.
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@6 - since when do you eat gefilte fish at a seder?
...unless you are my grandpa, who eats gefilte fish always. bleaugh.
...unless you are my grandpa, who eats gefilte fish always. bleaugh.
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mmm, gefilte fish. I am kind of sad I'm not having a seder, next year I need to get my act together beforehand. And an apartment with space for a kitchen table. Seders for one are not acceptable.
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It's the *space* I don't have. If I had space to put down a tablecloth, I would put a table there. Don't be inane.
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I was referring to the fact that in the Bible the Jewish people kill Canaanites once they enter the Promised Land after they endured persecution in Egypt. I was also referring to our own Pilgrims who came here under persecution then slaughtered the heathen Natives, and a zillion other examples of the oppressed becoming oppressors. Get a fucking sense of irony and history. And for the record 50% of my family is Jewish, and exactly 0% of people are expendable Palestinian, Hindu, or otherwise, even ignorant ones like yourself. So Slaru, after kindly fucking yourself, please do us all a favor and read a history book.
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How DARE the Obamas taint our sacred White People's Temple (the White House, duh) by extending recognition to other communities and other faiths!
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It is a little ironic.
However the Caananites were so totally depraved and wicked that complete destruction was the only course left. Their perversions and deviant practices extended to animals and children, which is why they were often slaughtered as well. To have retained them would have run the risk of introducing those perverted practices among the Israelites.
The Caananites could have been consumed by fire from heaven as was Sodom but the cleansing of the land was part of the faith building experience and test of the Israelite nation. In fact they failed the test, never completely removing the heathens from their midst and frequently indulging the heathen religions of those peoples (a major component of which included institutionalized sexually immoral behavior)
The fate of the Caananites seems to our sensibilities harsh but it is a lesson in how grievous a thing it is when the moral practices of a society become depraved. It is an especially timely lesson in light of the current trend to legalize and legitimize perverted relationships and behaviors.
It is a little ironic.
However the Caananites were so totally depraved and wicked that complete destruction was the only course left. Their perversions and deviant practices extended to animals and children, which is why they were often slaughtered as well. To have retained them would have run the risk of introducing those perverted practices among the Israelites.
The Caananites could have been consumed by fire from heaven as was Sodom but the cleansing of the land was part of the faith building experience and test of the Israelite nation. In fact they failed the test, never completely removing the heathens from their midst and frequently indulging the heathen religions of those peoples (a major component of which included institutionalized sexually immoral behavior)
The fate of the Caananites seems to our sensibilities harsh but it is a lesson in how grievous a thing it is when the moral practices of a society become depraved. It is an especially timely lesson in light of the current trend to legalize and legitimize perverted relationships and behaviors.
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On a lighter note I would like to add that making fun of gefilte fish is like using a 12 gauge to shoot at a 30lb Tuna in a barrel. I cannot think of a kind of meat that comes canned or jarred that is not easily ridiculed. However, homemade gefilte fish made out of fresh, quality fish(preferably several different types of salmon) can be worthy of anyones(yes I know there are people who don't eat fish), including our presidents plate.
@21 I'm sure Barack will have a nice sit down dinner with your kind(Republican I presume) on Fascist Christmas, I mean, 9/11. I'm also sure that you will find some way to criticize him for that as well.
@22 Dear shalom, you are in the wrong space to be espousing those views. DBAT(don't be a troll).
@21 I'm sure Barack will have a nice sit down dinner with your kind(Republican I presume) on Fascist Christmas, I mean, 9/11. I'm also sure that you will find some way to criticize him for that as well.
@22 Dear shalom, you are in the wrong space to be espousing those views. DBAT(don't be a troll).
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Obama is just as much of a Zionist tool as Bush was. Wake the fuck up to reality you naive dumbasses!
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