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Science News from the Animal Kingdom
Posted by Charles Mudede on Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:10 AM
Meat and the origins of prostitution:
Chimpanzees enter into "deals" whereby they exchange meat for sex, according to researchers.Male chimps that are willing to share the proceeds of their hunting expeditions mate twice as often as their more selfish counterparts.
This is a long-term exchange, so males continue to share their catch with females when they are not fertile, copulating with them when they are.
The team describe their findings in the journal PLoS One.
The root of consumer society: the meat market.
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That reminds me of my favorite primate study ever: teaching monkeys how to use money. There's a bit in there about how one monkey paid another monkey for sex...
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Housewife Charged In Sex-For-Security Scam.
I wish we weren't about to read the same old ad hoc, pseudo-naturalistic justifications for people eating meat in this thread, but what good is wishing?
I wish we weren't about to read the same old ad hoc, pseudo-naturalistic justifications for people eating meat in this thread, but what good is wishing?
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I wonder what the exchange rate is. Like, a thigh or round steak is worth maybe a blowjob but filet mignon gets you a threesome?
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All this proves is that selfishness is a turn-off. If a dude won't share his fries with me, good luck getting me in the sack. Ain't gonna happen!
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Actually, chimps have larger testes in relation to body size, and gorillas have smaller testes in relation to body size, with humans in the middle, indicating that gorillas ("apes") tend not to have to worry about competing with other males sperm, whereas chimps do. Humans are midway, a bit closer to gorillas, so extrapolating studies of chimps onto humans is not likely to be a useful exercise.
That said, until about 10,000 years ago all humans ate mostly plants, nuts, berries, that kind of thing, with rare protein from meat (mostly carrion bones and ants/termites).
So ... you're all wrong and have been led astray. (sources: OMG go read it yourself you lazy people!)
That said, until about 10,000 years ago all humans ate mostly plants, nuts, berries, that kind of thing, with rare protein from meat (mostly carrion bones and ants/termites).
So ... you're all wrong and have been led astray. (sources: OMG go read it yourself you lazy people!)
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Hell, just buying a girl dinner makes her a prostitute by these standards.
My wife is going to be SO upset. I should stop by the grocery store on the way home, just in case.
My wife is going to be SO upset. I should stop by the grocery store on the way home, just in case.
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@3 Who the fuck is talking about eating meat? This comment thread is about monkey prostitutes. I'm sure that if the chimps could exchange organice produce and soy-based meat substitutes for sex, they would.
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Also, Charles needs to remember that chimps are not an ancestor of ours. We share a common ancestor, and their behavior has changed over their evolution from this common ancestor to their present form.
We were not chimps. We did not once possess every trait that chimps now have. There is an arrogance in assuming humans are everything animals are, and more! They have their own business going on.
We were not chimps. We did not once possess every trait that chimps now have. There is an arrogance in assuming humans are everything animals are, and more! They have their own business going on.
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Not to go all pedantic on @10, but the BBC article *is* titled, "Chimpanzees exchange meat for sex".
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You want to give her your meat, better give her some of your meat...or something like that.
Supply and demand, illustrated in the plainest of terms. We each have something in abundance that the other wants, so we exchange those products and services to mutual benefit. Ain't life grand?
Supply and demand, illustrated in the plainest of terms. We each have something in abundance that the other wants, so we exchange those products and services to mutual benefit. Ain't life grand?
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Didn't someone hunt out all those mastodons more than 10,000 yeas ago?
All the large meaty fauna in North America got wiped out totally, didn't it? That wasn't from hunting them for meat, what was it from, Mr. Will dude?
Btw scarcity of meat would only supoprt the notion it had high value, thus sharing builds bonds and gets you laid, while giving someone grass or rocks to eat wouldn't, duh.
I mean, only sluts will do you in exchange for plants. Same thing is true today.....
All the large meaty fauna in North America got wiped out totally, didn't it? That wasn't from hunting them for meat, what was it from, Mr. Will dude?
Btw scarcity of meat would only supoprt the notion it had high value, thus sharing builds bonds and gets you laid, while giving someone grass or rocks to eat wouldn't, duh.
I mean, only sluts will do you in exchange for plants. Same thing is true today.....
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