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Wednesday, March 18, 2009

What He Said

Posted by on Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:18 PM

Gavin Newsom on the 55th anniversary of Brown vs. The Board of Education and gay marriage.

Via Towleroad.

 

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When is Lap Dance Day? You can be a politician too!
Posted by like you care Dan on March 18, 2009 at 6:25 PM · Report this
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He is a World Class ASSHOLE.
Posted by a leaky one on March 18, 2009 at 6:33 PM · Report this
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Obama made me sick to my stomach when he said "it's not the time" for marriage equality. Imagine if someone had said, "Rosa Parks, just move to another seat. Maybe in a few years...."

Posted by just_sayin on March 18, 2009 at 7:36 PM · Report this
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asshole he may be, but you are looking at a serious candidate in 2016. he's fucking slick.

but i'm backing cory booker.
Posted by Max Solomon on March 18, 2009 at 7:38 PM · Report this
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Thanks. i will think on this.
Posted by kim in portland on March 18, 2009 at 7:49 PM · Report this
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he reminds me of bill clinton.
Posted by rutabaga pie on March 18, 2009 at 8:01 PM · Report this
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Hey Dan, good video thanks! The non-Youtube one is here:
http://fora.tv/2009/03/11/San_Francisco_…
Posted by Bi-Zombie on March 18, 2009 at 8:12 PM · Report this
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I really hope this backfires on him. He has more ambitions than just being the mayor of an out oft ouch with the rest of america city like San Francisco. When the rest of the population finds out about this it will be the final nail on the coffin for his higher political ambitions.

Posted by Loveschild on March 18, 2009 at 8:12 PM · Report this
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Boycott the advertisers of The Stranger. The Stranger supports theft.
Posted by Fuck small bus, let em steal on March 18, 2009 at 9:02 PM · Report this
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@4,

For president? Remember how Edwards was deemed too smarmy? Newsom makes him look like the salt of the earth.
Posted by keshmeshi on March 18, 2009 at 9:50 PM · Report this
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I'm afraid that I'm not familar with this guy. Can anyone say why he is hitting a sour note with you all?
Posted by Laylala on March 18, 2009 at 10:03 PM · Report this
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Here's a question for gay dudes. Mr. Manhattan in Watchman...was that like a gay wet dream or what?
Posted by Watch Out With That Thing! on March 18, 2009 at 10:21 PM · Report this
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My folks live in the Bay Area and say that Newsom is for real. They believe in what he says, and they respect him for sticking by his principles when everyone is telling him he's carrying the "gay marriage thing" too far. Go Gavin!
Posted by Sarah in Olympia on March 18, 2009 at 11:13 PM · Report this
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@10: i didn't say he'd win.
Posted by Max Solomon on March 18, 2009 at 11:40 PM · Report this
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God damn Newsom looks exactly like Patrick Bateman.
Posted by Huey Lewis on March 19, 2009 at 12:04 AM · Report this
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4 -- i like cory booker too, but he's clearly taken a page from barack obama's optimism mantra and bumped it up to 100th degree. in interviews, he's incredibly awkward to watch. he overdoes everything.

Posted by Judith on March 19, 2009 at 2:28 AM · Report this
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Gavin Nuisance is the worst mayor of SF ever. He allowed it to become overrun with violent illegal aliens in the name of the "Sanctuary" idiocy. He sheltered violent crack-dealing illegals from being deported by the Feds. His liberal feel-good soft-on-crime policies allowed a several-time violent illegal alien free to kill a whole family. He is partially responsible for many murders. He should be in prison.
Posted by fuck gavin up the butt on March 19, 2009 at 7:19 AM · Report this
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Um, 17, San Francisco is only 102 on the list of cities ranked by crime rates. http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/CityCrim…
Posted by Rob in Baltimore on March 19, 2009 at 7:27 AM · Report this
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Did I ever say it was the worst? No. Learn to fucking read.

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg…

Sanctuary policy made city less safe

Debra J. Saunders

Tuesday, July 22, 2008

San Francisco's "sanctuary city" policy - as it was implemented until recently - put the welfare of juvenile gang-bangers and drug dealers, who also were illegal immigrants, before the safety of law-abiding residents who are victimized by gangs and thugs.

As The Chronicle reported Sunday in a story by reporter Jaxon Van Derbeken, one beneficiary of that policy is Edwin Ramos, 21, who is charged with killing Tony Bologna, 48, and his sons Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16 in a spectacularly senseless shooting spree on June 22. If Ramos is guilty, San Francisco political correctness and a federal immigration screw-up may have devastated a once happy family.
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg…

Lethal negligence

Tuesday, July 22, 2008

Edwin Ramos, the reputed gang member accused of killing a San Francisco man and his two sons on June 22, apparently gave authorities plenty of notice about his contempt for the law.

His actions practically begged for his deportation. Yet Ramos kept sliding through the cracks, released back to the streets for the next crime. The leaders and bureaucrats whose policies and inattention allowed him to stay in this country had better hold their breath and hope it can be established that someone else killed Tony Bologna, 48, and his sons Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16, near their home in the Excelsior district.

Opponents of the 1989 ordinance that made San Francisco a sanctuary city for illegal immigrants will try to use the Ramos case to discredit it. Their outrage would be misdirected. That ordinance never was designed to shelter criminals. A 1994 memo from the city attorney's office to the probation department made it clear that the exception to allow the deportation of criminals would apply to "both adults and juveniles" accused of felonies.
More...
Posted by eat shit you naive cunt on March 19, 2009 at 8:47 AM · Report this
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19, why so hostile? Is it because I totally disproved your point? If you're walking down the street in San Francisco, you are much safer than being on the streets of red state cities such as Dallas, TX, Lexington, KY, Raleigh, NC, Nashville, TN, Oklahoma City, OK. So, despite your claims, you don't really have the statistics to back them up.
Posted by Rob in Baltimore on March 19, 2009 at 9:01 AM · Report this
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I can support him on the statements he makes in the video - that's for sure.
Posted by Yeek on March 19, 2009 at 9:21 AM · Report this
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Rob - you didn't disprove my point. You set up a "straw man", falsely implying that I was saying that SF was one of the most dangerous cities. Then you knocked the "straw man" down. Good for you!

Guess what, douche. I have lived for years in Dallas. 95% of the violent crime there is caused by blacks and illegal aliens from Mexico. Eat shit and die you naive straw man cunt.
Posted by go fuck yourself after you eat shit and die on March 19, 2009 at 9:25 AM · Report this
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22, wow, so hateful when you are shown to be wrong. Again you fail to provide a single statistic to back up your claims, but for the sake of argument, say you are right about the 95% of crime in Dallas being from blacks and illegals. TX is not a illegal immigrant friendly place. Dallas has not deemed itself a "sanctuary city", and guess what. It's a much more dangerous place than the place you call a "sanctuary city" What does that say about your flawed theory? Hmmm???

Here's a reading assignment:
http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/0…

Posted by Rob in Baltimore on March 19, 2009 at 9:34 AM · Report this
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Dallas is a "Sanctuary City", dumbass.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg…

You never showed that I was wrong. Quit making shit up. You are a naive cunt.
Posted by eat shit and die on March 19, 2009 at 9:36 AM · Report this
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Newsom comes off a little full of himself but his message is dead-on as far as I'm concerned. Thanks for posting, Dan.
Posted by mkg on March 19, 2009 at 9:41 AM · Report this
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24, I admit I was not aware of that. You got me there, but you still have yet to prove any of your statistics. Please prove your 95% claims. Despite your claims, San Francisco is a very safe city. At least I can man up and admit it if I'm wrong.

More reading for you:http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/mar/01/co-the-illegal-immigrant-crime-myth/

Wow, you and the name calling. (That usually means the angry name caller knows he wrong.)
Posted by Rob in Baltimore on March 19, 2009 at 9:45 AM · Report this
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No, I call you names because I'm sick of naive douches like you spreading lies.

As for the stats on race and crime in Dallas, all you have to do is read the fucking newspaper or the Dallas Police crime reports. Anyone with any common sense can easily put two and two together and see just who commits the vast majority of murders and rapes in Dallas or in any other city in the USA.

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/

http://66.97.146.94/dpdpublic/
Posted by you suck at life on March 19, 2009 at 9:51 AM · Report this
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27, Again you have yet to provide even a single statistic to back up anything you have claimed. Your link works against you.
Posted by Rob in Baltimore on March 19, 2009 at 9:56 AM · Report this
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When reading, keep in mind that blacks make up only about 12% of the USA but whites make up about 75%. You probably don't even know what "per capita" means.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/…

"But the problem is irrefutably more pronounced in the black community, which comprises less than 15 percent of the nation's population but more than a third of its homicides.

You want numbers? Between 1976 and 2003, 534,042 homicides were reported across the country. Let that sink in for a second – more than half a million American lives snuffed out by violence right here at home.

Unbelievable.

Of that staggering number, whites perpetrated 34.7 percent of the murders, and blacks committed 34.3 percent, said Christopher Maxwell, associate professor at the School of Criminal Justice at Michigan State University and director of the National Archive of Criminal Justice Data at the University of Michigan.

Let's zoom in for a closer look. Of the white victims, 62.1 percent were killed by white offenders, and 63.4 percent of the black victims were killed by black offenders.

In 29.6 percent of the cases, the race of the offender was unknown. (Hispanics were not separated out as a group.)

The racial data for homicides is about the same for the Dallas-Fort Worth area as it is for the nation, Dr. Maxwell said. "
Posted by the numbers are actually even worse but PC covers them up on March 19, 2009 at 10:04 AM · Report this
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29, Wait, wait, wait. Your original point was about illegal aliens making San Francisco a dangerous place, and placing the blame for this fictional crime statistic on the Mayor of that city. Now, after being proven wrong, you are doing a bait and switch. Even so, you still haven't reached your 95% claim. Are you going to keep diverting, or can we actually speak about Newsom, about whom this thread started.
Posted by Rob in Baltimore on March 19, 2009 at 10:14 AM · Report this
Posted by but it's all just part of their rich vibrant culture on March 19, 2009 at 10:16 AM · Report this
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@30 - Come on, man, you've got to just admit this batshit crazy dude is right. Obviously, Gavin Newsom is a terrible mayor because blacks are out of control! In Dallas!
Posted by Travis on March 19, 2009 at 10:21 AM · Report this
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http://www.examiner.com/x-2684-Law-Enfor…

No 'happy face': Illegal alien crime wave continues

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg…
Feds probe S.F.'s migrant-offender shield

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http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/tex…

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http://www.aspenpost.net/2007/08/26/1198…

Sanctuary Cities “A Serious Impediment to Stemming Crime”

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http://www.svherald.com/articles/2008/10…

New study links illegal immigration and crime
Posted by celebrate divershitty on March 19, 2009 at 10:21 AM · Report this
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31, How does that relate to Gavin Newsom? You still don't have anything to back up your claims.
Posted by Rob in Baltimore on March 19, 2009 at 10:25 AM · Report this
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Illegal Alien Crime Wave Grips Phoenix

http://www.city-data.com/forum/immigrati…

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Immigration and the Alien Gang Epidemic: Problems and Solutions
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/…

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Getting away with murder in deadly San Francisco

http://www.examiner.com/x-431-SF-Politic…

Posted by Chandra Levy on March 19, 2009 at 10:26 AM · Report this
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33, Still have yet to provide a single statistic to prove your claims.
Posted by Rob in Baltimore on March 19, 2009 at 10:27 AM · Report this
Posted by Chandra Levy on March 19, 2009 at 10:28 AM · Report this
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Just keep sticking your head in the sand and ignoring the evidence all around you, while you demand "proof" with statistics.
Posted by Keep it up, maybe one of your pet illegals will kill you! on March 19, 2009 at 10:29 AM · Report this
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35, San Francisco is one of the safest large cities. You have posted nothing to counter that. Random news stories aren't statistics. Unless you can back up your claims, my job is done here.
Posted by Rob in Baltimore on March 19, 2009 at 10:30 AM · Report this
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http://stoptheinvasionoforegon.wordpress…

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Illegal Immigration A Victimless Crime?...Not For This Girl's Family!
http://www.americanchronicle.com/article…

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http://www.red-alerts.com/homeland-secur…

Illegal Alien Gets 33 Years for Rape/Murder of Gloria Applegate

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http://www.articlesbase.com/politics-art…
A Lawless American Frontier Called the Sanctuary City
Posted by Chandra Levy on March 19, 2009 at 10:33 AM · Report this
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@39, let me fix that for you:

"Unless you can back up your claims, my job is done here." = "I can't read all these stories that destroy my naive worldview. I have no logic or valid arguments to counter the mountain of overwhelming evidence presented. I set up straw men claiming that you said that SF was one of the most dangerous cities, then I knocked it down, because that's how shitty I am at debate and logic. My job is done here because I have nothing with which to argue against common sense and truth."
Posted by CHANDRA LEVY on March 19, 2009 at 10:37 AM · Report this
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@41 - I'm still confused. Am I supposed to hate the Mexicans, or the Blacks? Which color are we afraid of today?

Personally, from looking at the headlines, I'm most worried about how whites are screwing me, but maybe I just don't have your special worldview.
Posted by Travis on March 19, 2009 at 10:46 AM · Report this
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@42 your snarky comment proves you are naive too.
Posted by Chandra Levy on March 19, 2009 at 10:51 AM · Report this
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@42 your snarky comment proves you are naive too.
Posted by Chandra Levy on March 19, 2009 at 10:52 AM · Report this
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So what if blacks and illegal aliens commit an enormously disproportionate amount of rape and murder in the USA. It is so racist and insensitive to point out the truth! Shame on you!
Posted by Evergreen State Student on March 19, 2009 at 10:53 AM · Report this
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So what if blacks and illegal aliens commit an enormously disproportionate amount of rape and murder in the USA. It is so racist and insensitive to point out the truth! Shame on you!
Posted by Evergreen State Student on March 19, 2009 at 10:54 AM · Report this
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http://essentials.baltimoresun.com/micro…

Check it out! Interactive map of homicides in Baltimore! You can even search by race! Guess who commits the vast majority of murders in Baltimore??? TAKE A WILD GUESS!!!!

See for yourself at the link above.

There have been 46 homicides in Baltimore this year, 33 of them were black. Since at least 93% of all blacks murdered in the USA are murdered by other blacks, it is almost certain that the murderers were 100% black.
Posted by stop denying reality you naive cunts on March 19, 2009 at 11:19 AM · Report this
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crickets.... funny what a few facts can do to a bunch of naive reality-denying cunts
Posted by Liberals = nauseatingly naive on March 19, 2009 at 11:45 AM · Report this
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Hey "Rob in Baltimore", you know what the facts above mean, don't you???? Wait for it....

Blacks committed about 71% of the murders in Baltimore this year so far... ok ok so it is not 95%, but if that is an issue for you, that is just like quibbling about whether it is better to have a squirt of diarrhea or a solid turd in your milkshake.
Posted by eat shit you naive cunt on March 19, 2009 at 1:06 PM · Report this
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Haw haw haw where did you go, "Rob in Baltimore"?
Posted by Rob in Baltimore = naive lying cunt on March 19, 2009 at 3:06 PM · Report this
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Ugh, I'm from SF, and our mayor is such a smarmy bastard. Newsom sounds pretty good when he's giving his speeches, but then you look at the policies he supports and, well, it's hard to tell which is slicker: him, or his perennially meticulous hair.

In short, he's pushed for a somewhat shady deal with a real-estate developer named Lennar; campaigned against a proposition to buy out our local electrical service from PG&E to run it at-cost; and generally taken the pro-big-business side of every decision that has a pro-big-business side. He's also got almost Republican-esque ideas about criminal justice, though not quite as bad as his big business fetish, and he has surprisingly pro-car, anti-transit attitudes for a San Franciscan.

Basically, other than the gay marriage and a few other social issues, he's at best what the rest of the country would call a centrist. The gay marriage bit was a popularity ploy: it managed to coast him through his 2007 re-election, as well as put his name in the hat for an eventual run at the governorship. I'm sure he believes in it as a cause, but I don't think he'd do anything about it if he didn't see a political benefit to doing so.
Posted by Chronos on March 19, 2009 at 10:19 PM · Report this
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Thank you Chronos. When I asked about Newsom this was what I wanted to know, not a hated debate about racism. I wanted to know what he'd actually done to SF. Not being from CA, all I saw was alovely, if greasy, speach.

Also, why do so many conservatives come on here?You have to know you're pretty much going to hate the majority of whats written. If you need to feel righteously angry about something, aren't there easier ways to go about it. I don't go to Saddleback's messageboards to post. Apparently I need to start...
Posted by Sarah N on March 20, 2009 at 4:18 PM · Report this

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