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TV Do You Have Cable?
Posted by Paul Constant on Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:27 PM
If so, my east coast friends are telling me that tonight's Daily Show, which features a showdown between Jon Stewart and Jim Cramer, is not to be missed. Early reports indicate this is true, and Stewart gives Cramer a world-class drubbing.
There are only one or two days a year when I regret not having cable; this is one of them. I will be eagerly refreshing the Daily Show's home page until the video goes live. I have detested Jim Cramer for a very, very long time. I can't wait.
UPDATE: Here's a clip, although the full interview will be online tomorrow:
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Gawker has a bit of coverage up already--claiming it wasn't quite a knockout like with Tucker Carlson.
Stewart is too polite on his show, and Cramer played into it by being really profoundly contrite. Any other way, he must have known, his career was over.
Stewart is too polite on his show, and Cramer played into it by being really profoundly contrite. Any other way, he must have known, his career was over.
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Umm, torrents will be up any minute now, if not already. I will be watching it tonight. That's the fun of being on the west coast. You can even watch stuff before it comes on.
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Yeah, like 1 said, it's usually available on Hulu or Comedy Central around 1 am Pacific time. I'm anxious to see this too. I may have to stay up just for that.
Stewart is one the most brutal commentators ever, and I love him for it.
Stewart is one the most brutal commentators ever, and I love him for it.
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Note that the actual interview went long, and they cut out part of it to fit it into the alloted time. Apparently the full-length interview will be posted tomorrow on Comedy Central's site.
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now i feel sorry for the smarmy egoiste. the assholes who engineered the derivatives are demonstrably worse people than cramer. madoff is worse.
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Having now watched the clip I linked to...
Wow. That was murder. I disagree with Golob's sources -- I think that was a deeper cut than than Stewart's appearance on Crossfire.
Wow. That was murder. I disagree with Golob's sources -- I think that was a deeper cut than than Stewart's appearance on Crossfire.
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Might want to read this before feeling sorry for Cramer: http://www.deepcapture.com/jim-cramer-is…
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I mean, Stewart told Tucker Carlson that he was a dick. Which is, by the way, true. He never aired footage of Carlson admitting to having orgasms over committing stock market fraud.
These are strange times indeed.
These are strange times indeed.
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Don't care to watch this, but am watching the special warm-fuzzy reunion show of ER had a Stranger box in the background of a Seattle scene.
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It was bad... Bad enough that my roommate woke up halfway through the interview to say: "his career is over" (We live in a efficiency, assholes.) I assume she wasn't talking about Jon Stewart. Tucker Carlson never got it half this bad.
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@Lee:
Thanks for the clip. This is the most ruthless I've ever seen Stewart while interviewing. It's hard to compare it to his Crossfire appearance because it was on his show this time. But damn.
Go Jon.
Thanks for the clip. This is the most ruthless I've ever seen Stewart while interviewing. It's hard to compare it to his Crossfire appearance because it was on his show this time. But damn.
Go Jon.
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holy shit, he mops the floor with him. best part is after stewart plays a few clips of cramer advocate backdoor shenanigans -- "it's not a fucking game. i can't tell you how angry that makes. what it says to me is you all know.'" yes its a comedy show but boy, you can make a case for stewart being up there with brokaw and koppel in tv journalism. the news covers the globe, but who covers the news? the daily show does.
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Cramer was an idiot for challenging Stewart in the first place. What's Stewart's demographic? 18-34 year olds? Those aren't the people eager for Cramer's advice. By complaining about being criticized, Cramer drew more attention to his incompetence than would have been possible had he just kept his trap shut.
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@16 yeah i watched that and thoroughly enjoyed it too. ahhh if only julianna marguiles were indeed living here......a dyke can dream, can't she? (ever seen 'what's cooking'??? she plays a dyke who's together with kyra sedgwick...swoonful, i tell ya)
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is it me or is cramer's voice breaking? all i can think of is the episode of the brady bunch where peter's voice is changing...an initial youtubeing of it only produces
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gFXE_k_i…
but it appears peter's (christopher knight's) voice is still doing it - :18-:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gFXE_k_i…
but it appears peter's (christopher knight's) voice is still doing it - :18-:20
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Brilliant beyond belief. Stewart is saying to Cramer what someone needs to say to the entire graduating class of Harvard Business School for the last 20 years.
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Stewart made the great point that all this short selling was done with people's retirement investments.
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argh finally got the actual scene...3rd time's a charm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyooALwfx…
(i don't 'get' a lot of the economic stuff, but i can still appreciate the filleting)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyooALwfx…
(i don't 'get' a lot of the economic stuff, but i can still appreciate the filleting)
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@22 - That was where I really was surprised. Stewart sounded furious when he said that.
I though he had a really good line of questioning in his comments on how everyday Americans capitalize this game that the high-level Wall Street folks play with their pensions and 401ks...
I though he had a really good line of questioning in his comments on how everyday Americans capitalize this game that the high-level Wall Street folks play with their pensions and 401ks...
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i am so glad he ripped him.
it parallels the regurgitators who couldn't understand why anyone could blame them for rah-rahing the build-up to the iraq war.
"but it's not my job to investigate! i just repeat what they tell me! it's not my fault!"
fuck you, cramer.
i hope you do lose your job and feel even 1/100th of what a lot of us are feeling right now. you are part of the problem.
it parallels the regurgitators who couldn't understand why anyone could blame them for rah-rahing the build-up to the iraq war.
"but it's not my job to investigate! i just repeat what they tell me! it's not my fault!"
fuck you, cramer.
i hope you do lose your job and feel even 1/100th of what a lot of us are feeling right now. you are part of the problem.
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(Please excuse grammer and spelling, typed on an iphone) There is absolutely nothing wrong with short selling and I 100% disagree with Cramer and his "on camera" plays to curb them. Shorting provides a very important aspect to financial markets and their are much more important issues to bring up in this interview then what was brought up. Instead of trying to break someone down from 3 years ago focus on the future. Maybe he should have asked him about the growth of the CDS market and the fact that the nominal value of outstanding CDS in this country in more then the asset values of the whole country. Things like this are what should be out in the public and be being discussed to try and educate the general public. Who cares about Cramer's show, its targeted at the financial world, and as someone from wall street I can say that a huge majority of people think the channel and Cramer is a joke anyways.
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Wow, that was brutal. Jon Stewart really is at his best when he's really angry and serious. Loved it. Not sure if it was as good/bad as the "Crossfire" appearance, because Tucker Carlson was such a douchebag and because that was the first time we really saw Stewart be that serious. I almost felt sorry for Cramer tonight, and he kept saying he agreed. He didn't fight back. But great episode.
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Holy shit. Stewart destroyed Cramer. I can't see his career lasting much longer now. A comedian just did what an entire industry of journalists couldn't.
When a court adviser argues with the court jester and loses, this tells us a lot about the state of affairs of the Kingdom.
When a court adviser argues with the court jester and loses, this tells us a lot about the state of affairs of the Kingdom.
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Outstanding.
I didn't think I could love Jon Stewart more today than yesterday, but I do. Thank you, Jon, for saying what needed to be said.
And yes ... it was very uncomfortable at the same time.
I didn't think I could love Jon Stewart more today than yesterday, but I do. Thank you, Jon, for saying what needed to be said.
And yes ... it was very uncomfortable at the same time.
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This was a huge disappointment at least from what was shown in this clip. There could have been so much more done. I give Cramer an F for his boring performance and I give Jon Stewart a D- for not really bringing up anything that matters.
At least the Syracuse-Uconn game provided us with one of the greatest college basketball games ever to make things better.
At least the Syracuse-Uconn game provided us with one of the greatest college basketball games ever to make things better.
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Stewart is making a good point but Cramer is not who he should be making it to.
The clips are 3 years old.
On his show every night Cramer is very upfront about everything that Stewart brought up. He rips shorting and will never recommend it or ETFs that short. He is upfront when he makes a mistake.
Cramer has been a voice in the wilderness for months calling for reforms.
Again, Stewart made good (and obvious) points but Cramer is not the villian.
I don't think this will hurt Cramer, his fans know what he represents and that wasn't damaged here (plus a lot of people find Stewart an insufferable ass)
The clips are 3 years old.
On his show every night Cramer is very upfront about everything that Stewart brought up. He rips shorting and will never recommend it or ETFs that short. He is upfront when he makes a mistake.
Cramer has been a voice in the wilderness for months calling for reforms.
Again, Stewart made good (and obvious) points but Cramer is not the villian.
I don't think this will hurt Cramer, his fans know what he represents and that wasn't damaged here (plus a lot of people find Stewart an insufferable ass)
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Wow. There was a moment there where I actually thought Cramer was giong to cry.
The depressing part here is that this massacre isn't going to make a bit of difference.
The depressing part here is that this massacre isn't going to make a bit of difference.
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Yeah, as much as I like Jon Stewart, Cramer isn't really at fault here. Jon Ranted about the 'system' to a mere reporter, and expected the reporter to make counterpoints or defend what has happened over the last year. He can't, but more importantly, he didn't need to because it's NOT HIS FAULT.
It'd be like arguing with a press reporter about the Bush administration. It makes sense to say 'why won't you ask the tough questions?' But blaming them for the policies themselves, that's not accurate and way over the top. I get that Cramer helped build the phenomenon of 'day traders' and the like, but as he said, that was over the last 7 years when those people were making money, and lots of it. He helped encourage them into a market that he had no idea would one day become a trap.
This is scapegoating, and while Stewart was on game, he was ranting to the wrong guy. Why wasn't he like this with Jon Bolton?
It'd be like arguing with a press reporter about the Bush administration. It makes sense to say 'why won't you ask the tough questions?' But blaming them for the policies themselves, that's not accurate and way over the top. I get that Cramer helped build the phenomenon of 'day traders' and the like, but as he said, that was over the last 7 years when those people were making money, and lots of it. He helped encourage them into a market that he had no idea would one day become a trap.
This is scapegoating, and while Stewart was on game, he was ranting to the wrong guy. Why wasn't he like this with Jon Bolton?
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he was the right guy.
he was part of the problem. and then he (or CNBC) chose to be the one to take jon to task. he was a good choice because he wasn't the worst of them; cramer was no santelli.
but by going on stewart's show, cramer was defending himself, CNBC, and Rick santelli. in that way, he was the right guy.
and in that way, cramer actually won a little bit.
santelli nor CNBC had to apologize, or change. and the "news item" was reduced to a celebrity feud, or what some like to call: entertainment.
he was part of the problem. and then he (or CNBC) chose to be the one to take jon to task. he was a good choice because he wasn't the worst of them; cramer was no santelli.
but by going on stewart's show, cramer was defending himself, CNBC, and Rick santelli. in that way, he was the right guy.
and in that way, cramer actually won a little bit.
santelli nor CNBC had to apologize, or change. and the "news item" was reduced to a celebrity feud, or what some like to call: entertainment.
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When he steps off his nationally televised pedestal, Jon Stewart is an unpleasant homophobe. Invest a touch of research into it.
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@48: Totally. I heard he's really anti-semetic too. Have you heard the way he makes fun of Lieberman? It's one Jewish stereotype after another.
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@48: Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jon Stewart make one of the best, most articulate and passionate cases for gay marriage in the mainstream media during the 2008 election season?
I think you might just be a dick.
I think you might just be a dick.
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he makes fun of leiberman for being a whiny douche because lieberman IS a whiny douche. he pokes fun at himself for his own jewishness all the time. did you forget that he's jewish, too?
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