Saturday, February 28, 2009
Crime Amanda the Animal
Posted by Charles Mudede on Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 7:24 PM
Suspect 'did cartwheels'I'm becoming convinced that Amanda is simply simple. Simple in the sad sense of having a mental disability. A serious weakness or break must exist in the processes that connect her mind to the world of actual things and happenings. More and more I do not see her as a criminal but as clueless as that horse of Enumclaw. The undeveloped state of her mind make her as undesirable and as simple as that horse. What separates Meredith from Pinyan is that Meredith had no idea that an animal was in her house.
The woman accused of murdering British student Meredith Kercher performed bizarre gymnastic stunts immediately after the killing, her trial heard.American Amanda Knox did cartwheels and performed the splits as she was waiting to be questioned over the death, a senior police officer told her trial.
She and her former lover Raffaele Sollecito are accused of killing Miss Kercher, from Coulsdon, in Perugia.
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Don't worry, Amanda. There are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick ass lives. My first wife was 'tarded. She's a pilot now.
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Charles, that is funny. Because more and more we all continue to see you as a fat, useless, uneducated douche. And no, a personal library doesn't make you smart.
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High on hash, duh, very consistent with her crime of being high on hash, which btw is not = murder.
There never has been any evidence of that, but it's no bar to worldwide media incl. Charles from luridly milking this ridiculous prosecution from day one.
There never has been any evidence of that, but it's no bar to worldwide media incl. Charles from luridly milking this ridiculous prosecution from day one.
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I have a feeling, as PC pointed out, she was stoned...and probably still is stoned...and will continue to be stoned. And if she's convicted and sentenced to spend the rest of her life in prison, this might be a positive.
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Your theory would explain her wardrobe in court. Who wears jeans and t-shirts to their murder trial? You'd think her legal team would at least dress her better.
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@9: Right, but if it was really a matter of drugs, that could have easily been ruled out between the time of the murder and now. If she's "stoned", it's not the kind of stoned that depends on foreign substances.
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@2 This trial will never end! They only hold sessions on Friday and Saturday mornings. And they're Italians, and the whole government has set new standards for inefficiency since Berlusconi came to power the first time, now its even worse the second. Ten years from now, in what ever form the Slog exists, Mudede will be commenting on Foxy Knoxy every Saturday. Maybe the Italian statute of limitations will expire first.
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No, she was just nervous, likely because she's guilty. Everyone remember's Ashley Simpson's hoedown at SNL, right? Same thing.
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She's crazy. She's disconnected from reality because she's got Caryl Fugate syndrome- she was a powder keg waiting to meet the right spark to kill. She's not uncontrollably crazy, but I wouldn't trust her with a cat.
She should be locked up forever. If her parents are reading this, I'd say that it's probably not your fault, but your daughter should never see the sunshine again.
She should be locked up forever. If her parents are reading this, I'd say that it's probably not your fault, but your daughter should never see the sunshine again.
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@17: So far, I don't believe that anyone in this thread has actually made any comments specific to Ms Knox's desirability. So, you know, what are you yammering about?
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It's estimated that the psychopathic mindset has spread to about 25 percent of the population. I don't think she's any more vicious or callous than the typical gen xer at Microsoft stealing code from Sourceforge and figuring out what company to crush with patent enforcement.
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Mudede, if you're reduced to throwing ableist insults, this might be a topic you need to let go of.
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Charles, I'm convinced that you are simple. Simple as a horse. More and more I see you not as a writer, but as a clueless horse. You are as undesirable and simple as Trigger. Or Silver. Hi-yo Charles.
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The cartwheel story is from Friday or so.
Here's the latest:
"Knox, ex-boyfriend refute police testimony"
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/4018…
Here's the latest:
"Knox, ex-boyfriend refute police testimony"
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/4018…
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I don't see it quite the same way. If she were simple I don't think she would have such a rigorous academic life. It really feels more sociopath to me.
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@ Lee,
Since it is possible to get drugs in American prisons, I was assuming that it was probably possible to get contraband in Italian prisons judging from how much The Camorra contro.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/21261
Since it is possible to get drugs in American prisons, I was assuming that it was probably possible to get contraband in Italian prisons judging from how much The Camorra contro.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/21261
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**"...how much The Camorra control".** opps
There is quite a bit of corruption in Italy (like anywhere of course). I doubt half of what's being reported by the police is true and what is true is taken out of context or manipulated to make her look guiltier than she is. (Remember, cops are cops where ever they are).
There is quite a bit of corruption in Italy (like anywhere of course). I doubt half of what's being reported by the police is true and what is true is taken out of context or manipulated to make her look guiltier than she is. (Remember, cops are cops where ever they are).
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#16, I am guessing that her parents and possibly some friends of hers have observed this behavior before. (not murder, but the disconnected stuff) Something about her gave me the creeps from the very start. Whoever ends up sharing a cell with her will need to sleep with one eye open.
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I'm saying the Italian prosecutor is just making stuff up. And anyone who believes someone is doing cartwheels in a police station is beyond simple.
Which makes it pretty amazing, really, how far Charles Mudede has gotten with that intellect of his.
Which makes it pretty amazing, really, how far Charles Mudede has gotten with that intellect of his.
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#4 got it right. Amanda isn't SIMPLE - but she is missing certain things that most people have - things like empathy and a conscience - she is a sociopath. She is a sociopath who committed murder and shows absolutely no remorse. Even beyond that she doesn't even show anything for how serious this situation is - she is on trial for murder! She acts like she's on some sort of reality TV show.
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"More and more I do not see her as a criminal but as clueless as that horse of Enumclaw."
And, Charles jumps the shark.
And, Charles jumps the shark.
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@18 - It was Mudede who brought up desirability in the original post.
C'mon, stay with the group.
C'mon, stay with the group.
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@25
The Camorra is in Naples. Perugia is in a completely different region of Italy, further North.
The Camorra is in Naples. Perugia is in a completely different region of Italy, further North.
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What is wrong with doing splits and cartwheels while waiting? Maybe she uses movement to get centered and deal with difficult situations.
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When I hear the word "ableist", as @21, it's like getting a case of Rage from "28 Days Later" and "28 Weeks Later." I start weeping blood and wanting to tear all humanity apart into little pieces.
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@ 33,
Yeah, but I'm purty sure if Amanda Knox is anywhere near as crazy pants as the Italian police make her out to be she 1.) has access to pharmaceutical entertainment and 2.) is in fact crazy pants.
Yeah, but I'm purty sure if Amanda Knox is anywhere near as crazy pants as the Italian police make her out to be she 1.) has access to pharmaceutical entertainment and 2.) is in fact crazy pants.
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yech, she's about as hot as octo-mom. vivid should team them both up.
the girl is definitely insane. i'm sure the jeans and tshirt act is a put on by her local "legal team" (a.k.a. PR rep. that really only puts out false press releases and tries to convince the local news to always portray amanda in a positive light.)
the girl is definitely insane. i'm sure the jeans and tshirt act is a put on by her local "legal team" (a.k.a. PR rep. that really only puts out false press releases and tries to convince the local news to always portray amanda in a positive light.)
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In Charles' defense, even cursory reading of the statement she wrote that night and the verbal statements she made make it clear she was either severely hallucinating or severely traumatized. Probably both. It wouldn't surprise me if she was still in a state of mental breakdown.
Read the article linked @23. It is clear that she was making statements to either deflect or spread around the blame. There are "innocent" explanations that could be put forward for this, but they aren't obvious.
Charles question is valid from a cold hearted news perspective: was she always this wacked out or did she simply have a break.
Read the article linked @23. It is clear that she was making statements to either deflect or spread around the blame. There are "innocent" explanations that could be put forward for this, but they aren't obvious.
Charles question is valid from a cold hearted news perspective: was she always this wacked out or did she simply have a break.
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@37 Come to think of it, I agree, the jeans and t-shirt look is probably intentional. Her PR team wants to make her look as much as possible like the innocent, young girl, incapable of murder.
I don't think it's working.
I don't think it's working.
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i think this is a terrible post. it's mean and lacks philosophy. i will write a better one later. sorry.
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I feel called upon to defend the horse of Enumclaw. Mainly because it doesn't need defending.
Why didn't you just say "as innocent as Rosa Parks"?
Why didn't you just say "as innocent as Rosa Parks"?
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@21: I think your post bashes the able community. I want an apology. And a special government apprenticeship program for able people.
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Was she stoned out of her mind?
Is she mentally ill?
Is the Italian legal system corrupt and lazy?
Signs point to yes. All I know is, with all the sex and violence and weirdness, I keep getting sucked into this case. Mudede strikes again.
@20 comment freaks me out a little. And
@30 has a real good point.
Is she mentally ill?
Is the Italian legal system corrupt and lazy?
Signs point to yes. All I know is, with all the sex and violence and weirdness, I keep getting sucked into this case. Mudede strikes again.
@20 comment freaks me out a little. And
@30 has a real good point.
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finally you're starting to get it, charles. there's a bit of the naif about her. @15 is close, but add in PTSD - you get inappropriate coping behavior.
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Watching from New York...
This girl is a skanky sociopath who is so confident that her raging hotness will exonerate her in a court of law that she hardly displays normal reactions.
I have wanted to throw up since reading about this case when I was visiting Rome. Actually, I've wanted to throw the book at her and that pathetic p***Y-whipped boyfriend of hers since hearing the details.
A girl was murdered under extreme circumstances pointing to a sex game gone wild.
Sex, drugs, murder = Amanda Knox in an Italian jail for the rest of her days, getting fat, trying to remember the 20-year-old hottie she used to be.
This girl is a skanky sociopath who is so confident that her raging hotness will exonerate her in a court of law that she hardly displays normal reactions.
I have wanted to throw up since reading about this case when I was visiting Rome. Actually, I've wanted to throw the book at her and that pathetic p***Y-whipped boyfriend of hers since hearing the details.
A girl was murdered under extreme circumstances pointing to a sex game gone wild.
Sex, drugs, murder = Amanda Knox in an Italian jail for the rest of her days, getting fat, trying to remember the 20-year-old hottie she used to be.
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Tabula rasa. The Amanda Knox / Meredith Kercher case is a blank slate on which observers project their own attitudes and perspectives. It is a mirror that is opaque and only reflects the viewer.
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It really staggers me how many people just automatically assume she's guilty (of murder, there's no question she's guilty of bad judgement). Jesus, people, the tabloid press has tried her and convicted her already, and the Italian cops are desperate to pin this on the American girl, so they'll say or do anything.
Do I think she's guilty? I don't know. But I do not believe her guilt has been proven; I think what's been proven is that she's a bit off (she always has been, I know her slightly), has piss-poor judgement, and that the Italian police force is inept and corrupt.
Do I think she's guilty? I don't know. But I do not believe her guilt has been proven; I think what's been proven is that she's a bit off (she always has been, I know her slightly), has piss-poor judgement, and that the Italian police force is inept and corrupt.
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In what context do you know her Geni?
I agree completely with Greg @48. Given the information the internet/newspaper specatator is given, there are 2 very plausible contradictory explanations
1) AK is a somewhat odd individual, whose very peculiar behaviour made police mistakenly think she was involved and therefore added their own evidence to the significant circumstantial evidence, or
2) It's as open and shut case as you're likely to see and anybody who can't see it, is simply blinded by AK's good looks and charm and is therefore willing to suspend disbelief.
Impossible to know really (though the language I've used suggests I'm strongly leaning towards 2) and I'm slightly appalled my own morbid fascination with the whole sorry and tragic circus.
I agree completely with Greg @48. Given the information the internet/newspaper specatator is given, there are 2 very plausible contradictory explanations
1) AK is a somewhat odd individual, whose very peculiar behaviour made police mistakenly think she was involved and therefore added their own evidence to the significant circumstantial evidence, or
2) It's as open and shut case as you're likely to see and anybody who can't see it, is simply blinded by AK's good looks and charm and is therefore willing to suspend disbelief.
Impossible to know really (though the language I've used suggests I'm strongly leaning towards 2) and I'm slightly appalled my own morbid fascination with the whole sorry and tragic circus.
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For anyone who is interested in the facts behind the media spin, and who cares to learn more about the victim of this terrible murder - Meredith Kercher - there is an excellent discussion board
http://perugiamurderfile.freeforums.org/…
as well as an interesting blog
http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php
These online resources are not for profit. Anyone can read and/or participate and people from around the world do. They have followed this case since November 2007, and are in no way related to Amanda Knox. Nor are they her friends
http://perugiamurderfile.freeforums.org/…
as well as an interesting blog
http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php
These online resources are not for profit. Anyone can read and/or participate and people from around the world do. They have followed this case since November 2007, and are in no way related to Amanda Knox. Nor are they her friends
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This hurts to see. Amanda is, judging from only photos and with absolutely nothing else included in the opinion, just strikingly pretty. The kind of girl who I could fall for instantly. The kind of girl that could cause regrets of the worst kind possible. I hope that the trial will end soon, and that truth and justice will win.
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You will all regret the terrible things you are saying about my friend, Amanda, when she returns home...
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Wow, that doesn't surprise me. I've lived in Seattle for awhile, and have met quite a few chicks from there before I had to move there. Alot of the girls I've met from Seattle were kooky at best, and definitely not nice. Color me bias here, but based on what I've read about Amanda so far, I think she fits that stereotype I have of Seattle women.
I thought OJ did it, and I think Amanda Knox is guilty too. Maybe not of direct murder, but she was definitely a participant. She shows no feelings of empathy, remorse (which would imply guilt), or sadness. These are qualities of a sociopath, people. And sociopaths tend to be murderers.
I thought OJ did it, and I think Amanda Knox is guilty too. Maybe not of direct murder, but she was definitely a participant. She shows no feelings of empathy, remorse (which would imply guilt), or sadness. These are qualities of a sociopath, people. And sociopaths tend to be murderers.
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yes she guilty knox led these boys to the door of her house with every intention of haveing what she belived would be some sadistic fun humilating another woman who she knew was meridith at home alone .a game gone wrong. in the strugle for her pride and dignetiy meridith was held down and the knife made its fatel first wound the blood flowed and the screams came the panic set in a couple of minutes she dead blood every where .only a friend would stick around to clean up such a mess this is the incrimanating surcumstansial evidence without the dna .they are in the room frozen in the situation gueade runs for his life knox cleans and conspires with her weak pen knif loveing geek and make up a few storyes that dont match and throws the police off the sent with lumumba she embelishes and confuses her own story her and solicito dont match .25 years for knox 18 for solicito and reduce to 18 for gueade without knox this would never of hapend the promise of free sex and this gueade was dragged to his doom with an errection .solicito would do anything to please knox you can see he is a nerd this doesant mean he was a bad person he just thought this would improve his sad little sex life with a lady killer
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