Tuesday, February 24, 2009
Homo The Culture War Is Alive and Well and Being Waged From An Apartment in Lynnwood
Posted by Dan Savage on Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Several members of the Washington state Senate received a 30+ page "report" today from an organization—an organization based in an apartment in Lynnwood—that calls itself "United We Stand Washington." From the cover letter...
Dear Senator:Senator Ed Murray recently stated: "Instead of the cultural wars that we have seen here year after year, we see a Legislature that is mostly on board in moving forward on protecting all Washington's families."
Unfortunately a liberal media and a well funded campaign have stacked the odds heavily in favor of the homosexual agenda and against traditional families and values.
Robert Crowe, the author of the letter and, presumably, the report, argues that homosexuality is not enough like race—homosexuality is not immutable—and too little like religion—religion may be mutable but is also Constitutional (?)—for homosexuals to be a protected class under civil rights laws. And, hey, let's all try to remember that discrimination isn't necessarily a bad thing, since all it really means is "to make a distinction," so... um...
The question for public policy is: which forms of "discrimination" are so profoundly offensive to the national conscience that they justify government action that interferes with the rights of employers and other private entities and gives special protections to certain classes of people?
United We Stand Washington, a.k.a. Robert Crowe, is a bit late with this argument. Someone needs to let him know that the state passed a gay rights law that bars discrimination against gays and lesbians (and straights! and bisexuals!) in employment, housing, services, and credit several years ago; that RSVP cruise ship has sailed, Mr. Crowe. What's moving through the legislature this session is a third and final domestic partnership law; that's the law Murray was referring to with his culture war comments. The latest domestic partnership bill would grant to gay couples all the remaining rights of marriage that the state controls. While Washington state may soon stop discriminating between gay and straight couples where a whole bunch of rights and responsibilities are concerned, the DP bill doesn't require much from employers or other private entities. But the fine points of legislative process aren't what really concerns Mr. Crowe:
Is "sexual orientation," like race and sex, a characteristic that is inborn, involuntary, immutable, innocuous, and in the Constitution? Is it, like religion (which is not inborn, involuntary, immutable, or necessarily innocuous, but is in the Constitution), a characteristic that meets even one of these criteria? [Actually, yes—it meets almost all of these criteria. And freedom of religion is guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution, but not freedom from discrimination based on religion. But we banned that anyway.]The only truthful answer is no. [Wrong.]
Behind the homosexual movement are radical Talmudic Jews with unlimited resources. The following report describes how these Jews are destroying America. [Oh...]
Sincerely,
Robert Crowe,
United We Stand
Washington
And here's a taste from the table of contents for the report that follows:
INTRODUCTION: HOW THE JEWS ARE DESTROYING AMERICA
UNMASKING THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA
THE RADICAL HOMOSEXUAL MOVEMENT IS RUN BY JEWS
JEWS CONTROL THE PORNOGRAPHY INDUSTRY
THE JEWISH ABORTION INDUSTRY
THE JEWISH SLAVE TRADE (PROSTITUTION)
Well, gee. That last paragraph of the cover letter would explain why Mr. Crowe described religion as not "necessarily innocuous." Mr. Crowe clearly believes that some religions are way more nocuous than others. Should've seen that coming; United We Stand is described at the top of the cover letter as "DEDICATED TO THE PRESERVATION OF A WHITE ANGLO-SAXON CATHOLIC/PROTESTANT AMERICA." Dedicated to a white America, sure, but totally down with laws that protect racial minorities from discrimination because, like, race is inborn, involuntary, immutable, and innocuous. All things being equal, of course, Mr. Crowe would like to preserve white America. Nothing personal all you innocuous but involuntarily black folks.
UPDATE: I called Robert Crowe at his apartment in Lynnwood a moment ago. An answering machine picked up and the outgoing message said I had reached the offices of "Catholics and Protestants United." I began to leave a message and Mr. Crowe picked up. I asked him what he hoped to accomplish with his report.
"What I hope to accomplish with it is this: You can’t equate civil rights and extra-constitutional rights. Did you read the letter? Did you? Do you understand the difference? When you take away the rights from one group you give them to another! That’s what you’re doing!"
At this point Mr. Crowe began to shout, his voice breaking.
"This is a war against traditional morality! Against the family! Oh my God! I can’t even talk to you! My God! You have no idea what you’re doing! You’re destroying this country!"
And then he hung up—before I could ask him about the role of the Jews. For which I blame the Jews.
UPDATE 2: Slog reader Andrew thinks the international gay/Jewish conspiracy needs a logo, so he created this one...
Thanks, Andrew!
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I was going to add something pithy here, but this "Zionist international conspiracy" shit is just too easy. More imaginative bigots, please.
Thank you.
That kind of blew my mind a little. I did not see that coming.
This guy needs a prominent public platform, stat, just so everyone can see how blatantly crazy these anti-gay folks are.
I moved to a small city in a rural area and a lot of the crap I've heard people say makes me think they ought to be committed. What sounds like paranoid schizophrenia against one backdrop is a societal norm against another.
Although Lynnwood isn't the typical breeding ground for these sorts of ideas, he might have come from elsewhere or have been part of a tight, ignorant family with likeminded friends.
Or he might need meds. It's hard to tell. I've heard sane people spout insane drivel enough times I can never be sure.
Did anybody put this question to any straight people? Heterosexuality can just as easily be considered to be a 'learned' behavior. And is sex/gender really immutable any more? Was it ever?
My Talmud teacher, by the way, is a PhD, a kickass professor, a Jew--and a lesbian. With a beautiful four-year-old son.
What special protections is he referring to? Is marriage a special protection, reserved for just one class of people now? I think SO! Ghee I wonder what class of people now enjoy that special protection? Hmm let me think...
And what is it with these crazies and their use of all caps? Reminds me of the letters my mom used to get from her slightly crazy brother, except he liked to mix it up with colored felt tip pens...
OMG. This guy takes the cake.
"Oh my God! I can't even talk to you!" Too funny!
Wow, coo-coo for coconuts!
BTW Andrew- that logo is hilarious!
Second, "The Gay Agenda", embraced by the liberal media, is very easy to spot and define. Although I don't have the actual written agenda, it can easily be summarized as follows:
The U.S. Government and citizens of the world should treat all people (even homosexuals!) equally unless that person's actions harms another innocent party. Religious beliefs should not be taken into account when assessing "harm."
GAY AGENDA!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Sorry I just had to get that out. Here I am a gay Jew having to split my time between Zionist conquest and the homosexual agenda to destroy America, and all of a sudden I discover that I don't have to be splitting my time at all!
This report is such a relief. After seeing the excellent documentary "Trembling before G-D" I was under the impression that Jews could be just as homophobic as members of other religions. The documentary even showed gay Jews who had been disowned by their families and cast out of their communities. Thank goodness this was all apparently just a ruse! I guess this also means that the riots and violence that broke out in Jerusalem when the first gay pride march in the city was announced were also a sham. Whew!
And here in Boston one of the most vocal opponents against gay rights is Jewish, though perhaps he's not a "Talmudic Jew." Or maybe just maybe, he's trying to bring the Bay State anti-gay movement down FROM THE INSIDE!
This report has made me feel so much better!
However, I dislike the logo design, no matter how tongue in cheek or sarcastic it may be. Reason? Because you know, somewhere down the road someone will get a hold of it, and believe it is real, and use it as "proof" that such a conspiracy exists. No matter that it is a joke...after all The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was complete hoax and yet look how many people actually believe it is truth!!
Those too dense for that dig up "evidence" everywhere, and one more bit won't make much of a difference.
https://www.pdc.wa.gov/archive/complianc…
Also, did anyone notice that people have been leaving out the "Divided We Fall" part for the past 8 or so years? Remember, "United We Stand, Divided We Fall"?
I agree with 55 for the reasons 55 stated. The logo is not only harmless, not only hilarious, but also good. No one gets points for being quiet, no one gets points for deferring to anyone crazy enough to think there is some conspiracy.
Me: *wears tshirt with logo proclaiming I'm a member of the Jewish-Gay conspiracy*
Bigot: Wow, there really IS a jewish-gay conspiracy, and look how well organized they are!
Onlooker: Wow, what a bigot. What a DUMB bigot!
If someone were susceptible to this outlandish scenario, they weren't important in this debate in the first place, and they will continue to marginalize themselves through ridiculousness. It's not just a homophobic assumption that such an organization exists nefariously, it's also anti-semetic, and by all means, we SHOULD wake up people who have multiple prejudices and make them stand out. Out the bigots! Point and laugh!
And veracity is important because...? Come on, the point here is that there is no conspiracy, there is no agenda besides that of equal rights and respect.
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