Tuesday, February 24, 2009
Politics Obama's Addresses to Congress
Posted by Eli Sanders on Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Live feed here (among other places). "Optimistic" advance excerpts here.
UPDATE: Savage here. "I hope someone there is noting down how many/which pandering fuckwits are sitting thru Obama's speech on their crackberries," writes a Slog tipper. I couldn't tell you—I'm listening to Obama's speech on the radio while I bake oatmeal raisin cookies for the boys. Anybody watching on TV care to name names?
UPDATE 2: Speech over. And for the record: the "analysts" on the cable news programs get all the grief—on The Daily Show, on the liberal blogs—but the analysts on NPR are morons too.
UPDATE 3: Bobby Jindal is speaking to us like we're all completely retarded. That may work in Louisiana where, um, most everyone is nearly or completely retarded. But he's speaking to a national audience tonight. He's for tax cuts, against regulations and gov'mint burryocats, blah blah blah. "Americans can do anything," he keeps telling us. Uh-huh.
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The year was 2004.
Life was simpler then...ah, remember how clearly all the lines were drawn.
For example, could this debate, featuring John Kerry debating "Ricky Retardo" have ever taken place in 2009?!?! Read on, and wax nostalgic...:
http://welcometotheasylum.com/Cooper/id1…
The year was 2004.
Life was simpler then...ah, remember how clearly all the lines were drawn.
For example, could this debate, featuring John Kerry debating "Ricky Retardo" have ever taken place in 2009?!?! Read on, and wax nostalgic...:
http://welcometotheasylum.com/Cooper/id1…
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what @2 said. I was looking forward to mocking Nancy Pelosi for wearing her Star Trek: Deep Space Nine tunic....
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Brilliant speech; return to responsibility theme continues, but now is aimed at GOP, bad banks, etc.
He's doing well at weaving it all together, explaining things in simple terms. Like health care costs weigh down our economy (more understandable than an idiolog. argument that it is a right, etc.).
He was for charter schools, btw, and his talking about personal responsibility to stay in school or you're letting yourself down and your nation down -- brilliant.
He's doing well at weaving it all together, explaining things in simple terms. Like health care costs weigh down our economy (more understandable than an idiolog. argument that it is a right, etc.).
He was for charter schools, btw, and his talking about personal responsibility to stay in school or you're letting yourself down and your nation down -- brilliant.
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God, we have an awesome president. How I have missed intelligence, care, and energy.
Fuck you naysayers. I'm gonna soak in it awhile and snot up a kleenex or six.
Fuck you naysayers. I'm gonna soak in it awhile and snot up a kleenex or six.
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Jeez, I hate Jindal already. He sounds like he's reading Dick and Jane to 3-year olds. But I'll listen to the content.
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this jyndal guy sounds like he's lecturing to kindergarteners... or narrating a lame animated educational video for kindergarteners. same thing though. this guy has a bright future as the next Mr. Rogers
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Ugh. I missed Obama's speech and am now listening to Jindal sound like he's speaking to little kids. Jesus - who is coaching this guy on his public speaking? Big Bird?
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Jindal is a smarmy twat.
Mocking "volcano monitoring"? I bet mocking "hurricane monitoring" is no joke to this douchenozzle.
Mocking "volcano monitoring"? I bet mocking "hurricane monitoring" is no joke to this douchenozzle.
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How could anyone have voted for this putz? Jindal sounds like he's auditioning for a spot on School House Rock.
Or why we don't need to worry about volcanoes. Maybe we should also cut funding for hurricane monitoring and response, too.
Or why we don't need to worry about volcanoes. Maybe we should also cut funding for hurricane monitoring and response, too.
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For the 1st time in 8 years, I've actually watched a president's speech in it's full entirety. I couldn't listen to Bush at all.
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Then the sheriff was all, "I'm fixin' to git down there myself and act like a muskrat in a nest a-rattlers." And I said, "Gee, sheriff, that's just jinky!"
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Oh my god, if this guy is the new star of the Republican party and I have to listen to him campaign in 2012, I am going to shoot myself.
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I want it known that I didn't vote for Jindal. I hate listening to him make speeches. He always sounds like he is condescending to his audience. Of course, he pretty much thinks he is smarter than everyone else, which is why no one in this state with any kind of education voted for him. It's offensive that he treats his constituents like children.
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Jindal: We Republicans relentlessly fucked you in the ass for 8 years. God that was bad of us, we're really sorry. But just trust us now, we're the party of fiscal responsibility.
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@Update 3 - Near the beginning, Jindal had the balls to pull this one out: "The government is asking us to trust them in a time of crisis... after hurricane Katrina, we here in Louisiana have a reason not to trust such a statement." The guy tried redirecting a slag against Bush's administration to talk shit about Obama? Amazing. Did anybody else notice this?
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Is the idea then that if I get a big-enough tax break - then I can monitor my own volcano?
Are those sold on-line?
Are those sold on-line?
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@36 - Yep. He's been trying to deflect blame for Katrina from the Republicans by talking about how effective the response to Gustav and Ike were, and indirectly taking the credit. And while those responses were better, they still weren't good. It doesn't surprise me that he will try to turn that whole mess into a statement about not trusting the Obama administration.
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@36: Duh! Don't you know the next hurricane will be Obama's fault? Jindal can predict the future: he asked King Friday and Lady Elaine to tell him about 2012.
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@40 but we can blame the next volcano death on Jindal's Pro-Volcano death position. So its a wash politically. Too bad we are the ones who die.
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Bobby Jindal's speaking style reminds of that episode of the Simpsons where they pass the anti-immigrant law so Apu starts talking like he thinks Americans talk.
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Eli, so if you're from Louisiana, you are retarded? Another massive, Stranger logic fail. Are you really this ignorant? Or perhaps you think that Capitol Hill represents the entire world? Go fuck yourself, you ignorant, cunt. Your mother is a whore and I hope she dies.
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And by the way, I take offense to Update 3 on the original post. I'm not a Louisiana native, but I know a lot of people who are who are among the smartest people I have ever met.
There are a lot of people here who are very disenchanted with Jindal. He is losing the far right because they think he isn't conservative enough. He never had the left at all, and he is losing the moderates because they are starting to realize that he isn't as bipartisan and competant as he painted himself in his campaign. He may face a real threat in the 2011 gubenatorial election - assuming the Democrats can get things together by then.
There are a lot of people here who are very disenchanted with Jindal. He is losing the far right because they think he isn't conservative enough. He never had the left at all, and he is losing the moderates because they are starting to realize that he isn't as bipartisan and competant as he painted himself in his campaign. He may face a real threat in the 2011 gubenatorial election - assuming the Democrats can get things together by then.
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@43,
Here's a little grammar tip. Only put a comma after an adjective if you're using more than one: you naive, ignorant cunt. Do not put a comma between the adjective and the noun.
Thanks.
Here's a little grammar tip. Only put a comma after an adjective if you're using more than one: you naive, ignorant cunt. Do not put a comma between the adjective and the noun.
Thanks.
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Not only are people from Louisiana retarded, apparently they can't recognize a joke when they see one...
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@28: Haha, best comment of the thread.
Seriously, I'm hoping for a Palin-Jindal ticket in 2012. Then the GOP finally collapses under the weight of its own stupid and a party with actual ideas takes its place as the opposition.
Seriously, I'm hoping for a Palin-Jindal ticket in 2012. Then the GOP finally collapses under the weight of its own stupid and a party with actual ideas takes its place as the opposition.
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@47 - When your state really is a national joke, you watch you legislature cut spending for public education, and you watch a bill to allow intelligent design to be taught in public schools, you get a litle sensitive. The smart, practical people here aren't running for public office, because enacting true reform in this state is an exercise in futlity.
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Yes, Jindal is an incredible douche. For anybody who missed it when he was being hyped for McCain's VP pick, you should check out his story of sexual frustration and exorcism from his college years. Enjoy!
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsm…
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsm…
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i'm with 48!
really i'd like to just round up the republicans and shoot them all into space...i mean it's obvious that they live in an alternate universe - it's time for that universe to cease to exist!
really i'd like to just round up the republicans and shoot them all into space...i mean it's obvious that they live in an alternate universe - it's time for that universe to cease to exist!
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@49: I hear you. Obama's comments on the campaign trail about guns and religion - while they were a political gaffe - were pretty insightful. In really depressed areas, it's very easy to get elected on issues that get people's blood up but that don't really make things better for anyone. I have a feeling that Jindal is one of those people.
And no, I don't think that means that electorate is stupid, it's just that a lot of the more sensible issues get sacrificed to apathy. "The best lack all conviction, and the worst are full of passionate intensity." Etc.
And no, I don't think that means that electorate is stupid, it's just that a lot of the more sensible issues get sacrificed to apathy. "The best lack all conviction, and the worst are full of passionate intensity." Etc.
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@45: Don't listen to him ... I found that grammatical point very helpful, thank you.
I'll be sure to keep it in mind the next time my mind is seized by an inarticulate rage and I am driven to rail against those who would dare disagree.
I'll be sure to keep it in mind the next time my mind is seized by an inarticulate rage and I am driven to rail against those who would dare disagree.
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Nate Silver, FTW: "If it sounds like Jindal is targeting his speech to a room full of fourth graders, that's because he is. They might be the next people to actually vote for Republicans again."
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@56: No, you dumb motherfucker! If I meant that, I would have said it. I'm sorry that working at Sonic Boom and drinking at the Cha hasn't provided you with the education you had hoped for. Now get AIDS and die please.
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@54
Well, even if you believe that the post at #45 is smart or not, the post and your response makes it very obvious that they are smart than you. But that isn't setting the bar very high now is it?
Well, even if you believe that the post at #45 is smart or not, the post and your response makes it very obvious that they are smart than you. But that isn't setting the bar very high now is it?
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These are not, ordinary, commas. The kind that, indicate a, pause. They, are, RAGE,, COMMAS!,,,,,,
Apoplectic, rage,,!
Apoplectic, rage,,!
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How dare that Nancy Pelosi wear that sickening green bathrobe in the House chamber with her brittle split-end ridden try-to-be-cutesy dyed wig/hair-do whatever it is on her pathetic shrunken brain. She is totally absent of any respectable decorum one would think the Speaker of the House would have in polite society. I am totally appalled!
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Of course Jindal is speaking to us like we are children. That has been the GOP MO for the last eight years. It worked OK when they had the presidential mike, but now it is exposed in the stark contrast to Obama's candor for the silliness it is.
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Okay, please excuse the following random memory:
~7 years ago, I was living in Hyde Park in Chicago. Obama was my district's representative in the Illinois legislature. The first time I saw him, he was being interviewed on Chicago's PBS affiliate and deflecting questions about being a southside radical. (Keep in mind that a former Black Panther represents this same district in the U.S. House)
Anyway, I have no real point here other than to say that I simply cannot believe that Barack Obama went from being a near nobody in my neighborhood to POTUS in less than seven years.
~7 years ago, I was living in Hyde Park in Chicago. Obama was my district's representative in the Illinois legislature. The first time I saw him, he was being interviewed on Chicago's PBS affiliate and deflecting questions about being a southside radical. (Keep in mind that a former Black Panther represents this same district in the U.S. House)
Anyway, I have no real point here other than to say that I simply cannot believe that Barack Obama went from being a near nobody in my neighborhood to POTUS in less than seven years.
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Palin-Jindal 2012: Because America needs four more years of President Obama to repair the damage caused by George Bush.
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@64--It was a prank: the GOP stole DNC stationery and sent Speaker Pelosi a memo that it was a "costume" event with a sci-fi theme, and poor Nancy showed up as Kai Wynn from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. Haw!
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"That may work in Louisiana where, um, most everyone is nearly or completely retarded. "
Yes there is a noticeable prejudice amongst smug Northerners, the kind who love the smell of their own farts, and this chauvinism is particularly strong in Seattleites.
We, the rest of the country get it. You, in Seattle, are smug ass holes, some of the time.
The post would be improved by removing this gratuitous slur. And if you don't, sir, meet me in City Park at dawn with your pistols and your second. . . .
Yes there is a noticeable prejudice amongst smug Northerners, the kind who love the smell of their own farts, and this chauvinism is particularly strong in Seattleites.
We, the rest of the country get it. You, in Seattle, are smug ass holes, some of the time.
The post would be improved by removing this gratuitous slur. And if you don't, sir, meet me in City Park at dawn with your pistols and your second. . . .
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"That may work in Louisiana where, um, most everyone is nearly or completely retarded. " - having tons of blacks around will do that
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6@73: you can keep yer comment-@-62; comment 70 has tears rolling down my face and my sides splitting with mirth!
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