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Friday, January 30, 2009

A Conclusion

Posted by on Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:40 PM

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I have finally decided to reject these robot cats and to recognize an aspect of pet ownership that deserves credit, if not praise. My Marxist side is the cause of this line of thought, which begins with Adam Smith and ends with an appreciation of the type of relationship humans have with their dogs or cats. Thinking of Marx and pets lead to me to think about how Adam Smith placed selfishness at the vital center of capitalist economics. Selfish interest, according to the long-dead Scotsman, motors a capitalist economy to the promised land of "the general good." But the problem is this: In the capitalist order, the entire body of interactions between humans form nothing but a network of self-interests. The butcher, baker, the carpenter, the cook—all service my needs and desires not because they like me but because they are interested in my money. Without this money, the whole lot of them would have no interest in me. Because all human relationships in a capitalist order have self-interest as their animating force, a pet offers the owner a relationship that is outside of this order. Here we have a human being kind to a dog for no other reason than being kind to it. Indeed, even the kindness between family members lacks this kind of purity because it has a biological link—it is still interested, self-interested. A pet owner at his or her best has a kindness that lacks any monetary or blood link. (And I think this is at the center of the outrage directed a Michael Vicks—he soiled the purity of the bond between man and dog.) All in all, the robot cats are really capitalism's effort to colonize an area of kindness that is outside of its logic and order.

 

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I never thought robots could be so boring.
Posted by P to the J on January 30, 2009 at 1:55 PM
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your musings on robot pets are the first time that your writing has ever made any sense to me. Keep it up!
Posted by Wurm on January 30, 2009 at 1:57 PM
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duh.

Posted by maxsolomon on January 30, 2009 at 1:59 PM
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Uncanny Valley? Meet Uncanine Valley!
Posted by AJ on January 30, 2009 at 2:08 PM
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Yeah, but the argument is so full of holes... Besides, capitalism has completely colonized the pet area. I mean, have you been to a pet store lately? You can buy dog beds for hundreds of dollars, and toys can be found well into the 80s and 90s. Not to mention the dog treats etc. The love of pets has been completely exploited already.

I mean, simulating a cat just stems from the same impulse to simulate a baby. It's no different, in the sense that you're taking something cute and mimicking it for the amusement/fulfillment of the purchaser. This is not new or anything.

Not to mention the fact that dogs and cats already ARE a commodity themselves... Wanna check with Wittgenstein of Hegel on this one, and get back to us?
Posted by Stoppin ze throwinze on January 30, 2009 at 2:09 PM
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Charles - you might enjoy reading this:

http://www.wired.com/culture/culturerevi…
Posted by MEC on January 30, 2009 at 2:13 PM
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I like where you went with this, but I don't like the premise you established. There is those who take pride in their work. There is also those who treat their pets well. The motivation for the former isn't always money, even in a capitalist society, and the motivation for the latter is rewarded with less tangible form of capital.
Posted by Dougsf on January 30, 2009 at 2:16 PM
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I might add - It's about people burning their little robot Elmo's. It makes the author uncomfortable and he asks:

"With advanced robotics becoming cheaper and more commonplace, the challenge isn't how we learn to accept robots—but whether we should care when they're mistreated. And if we start caring about robot ethics, might we then go one insane step further and grant them rights?"

And then mentions:

"In 2007, a South Korean politician declared that his country would be the first to draw up legal guidelines on how to treat robots; the UK has also looked into the area (though nothing substantial has come of it anywhere). "As our products become more aware, there are things you probably shouldn't do to them," says John Sosoka, CTO of Ugobe, which makes the eerily lifelike robot dinosaur Pleo (also tortured on Web video). 'The point isn't whether it's an issue for the creature. It's what does it do to us.' "
Posted by MEC on January 30, 2009 at 2:17 PM
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Some days Charles hands us conclusive evidence that he is in fact from Laputa, not Africa. This is one of those days.
Posted by dcm on January 30, 2009 at 2:19 PM
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i don't always hate chuckles's posts, but this one is the essence of what i dislike: he seems to believe that his words are the conclusion.

sorry chuck, we're all shadows, even you.
Posted by cranky on January 30, 2009 at 2:39 PM
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Robots are inherently anti-marxist, since they are kept in slave states and dependent on us for batteries.
Posted by Will in Seattle on January 30, 2009 at 2:44 PM
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Charles - I've enjoyed this series greatly. It's heartwarming that you cut animals some slack here. My favorite opening sentence in some time is from the robot pets post from last night's crescendo of deliberation: "I can't stop thinking about these robot pets."
Posted by Lloyd Clydesdale on January 30, 2009 at 2:52 PM
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Sorry, but we have pets for selfish reasons as well. We used to keep pets around because of their utility. Today we keep them in captitvity usualy as a stress releaver or social substitute. We are kind to them not because we're just nice like that, but because we get something in return.
Posted by Sirkowski on January 30, 2009 at 3:00 PM
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Show me a robot cat that can kill the giant spiders within 10 feet of the door every time they get in and can alert me to the presence of idiot starlings in my woodstove AGAIN.
Posted by Geni on January 30, 2009 at 3:03 PM
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"All in all," not "all and all." Thanks.
Posted by Grammar Nazi on January 30, 2009 at 4:06 PM
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this Charles Muhdik character is starting to grow on me. his latest post was spot-on.
and quite a bit more intellectual than the real Mudede.
Posted by onion on January 30, 2009 at 6:12 PM

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