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Monday, January 19, 2009

So How Will Art Change?

Posted by on Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:25 PM

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Obama equals change, right? Well, how does change apply to art?

You've seen art by Dan Webb and Susan Robb, now hear them talk about what they think should change in art, and what should never change in art.* And don't expect them to agree.

*(This is a segment of a longer conversation we had this morning; the podcast of the entire conversation will go up later today.)

 

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What the FUCK is this about??

"a whole population of people who don't know how to look at stuff"


another slog embarrassment....
Posted by commentz on January 19, 2009 at 2:30 PM
2
"a whole population of Slog commenters who don't know how to look at stuff"
Posted by I know, it really is an embarassment on January 19, 2009 at 2:43 PM
3
I am still so sad that Jen Graves is the only employed arts writer in town. This ship is going to sink unless we get some good writers in...Lets have a call for writers!
Posted by Wendie on January 19, 2009 at 2:52 PM
4
Haters hating on-
ly reflects the hatred of
their own hate-filled lives.
Posted by And don't expect them to agree. on January 19, 2009 at 3:26 PM
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I have to agree with #4. Susan and Dan come across as some seriously bitter, nasty, empty people. Can't believe that they allowed you to post something that makes them sound like such pretentious pricks (then again, they're clearly so self absorbed that they may not realize what assholes they have become).
Posted by They nailed the insular part on January 19, 2009 at 3:40 PM
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Oh, I wasn't even talking about Dan and Susan. I was talking about the weird phenomenon that is Slog commenting.
Posted by And don't expect them to agree. on January 19, 2009 at 5:45 PM
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Oh I wanted to say so much about how much I hated this interview but I got to infuriated with so many idiotic statements being said. It sounded like no one really knew what they wanted to actually say. They kept stating things and then ending with statements like "I dunno".

Art chnges all the time. The reason there seems to be no change in art lately is because there is so much weak bad art out there that is boring so many people. Art made by a generation that was brought up being praised every time they did something. A generation that had every scribble placed upon the fridge door with a magnet all the while being told it is good.
This type of bad criticism was basically parents lying to their kids over and over in a pathetic PC way.
You know what? If art is bad or weak then someone better tell you or else you end up with a weak art scene. Where everyone thinks that everything they do is valid and good. Well it isn't and that is where we are today.
Too much weak crap being passed off as acceptable good art while the artist tells you "you do not know how to see things". Man it sounds like an art cult with a mass amount of brainwashing going on.
I see great art all the time and I see bad art. I am not afraid to say so. Why is everything good when I read about art. Seems the snake oil vendors have positioned themselves well within art communities and people are delusional and constantly want to prove to everyone they see things you do not see. It is insulting!
Posted by -B- on January 19, 2009 at 6:26 PM
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I didn't think they sounded like assholes at all. Maybe a bit overly concerned with the art world, but since they were discussing changes within that world it seems only natural that they would speak educatedly on the subject.

It seems like a lot of artists bring up the death and/or dying of visual literacy these days. It is as if they decide for themselves that what they are doing is important and that the population isn't interested in it due to a lack of some necessary experience or education (usually an experience or education that the artist has had). What if that particular experience or education has become irrelevant due to the fact that it has been so insular for so long? What separates dogmatism in art from dogmatism in religion? Maybe artists should come out of isolation and assume that they have been practicing under methods that limit the effectiveness of their work. I don't claim to know anything about the art world and these thoughts are so obvious that I'm sure that there are entire libraries that prove me stupid, but I do know that we live in a society that lacks visual care and that the majority of the talented and thoughtful visual thinkers have busied themselves with the task of putting together bodies of work that are hidden and locked up in rooms; likely to become the 'misunderstood' garbage of the future.

What would an outdoor park imagined by Susan Robb look like? Or bus shelters made by Dan Webb?
Posted by I'm Just as Wrong as You on January 19, 2009 at 6:53 PM

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