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Inauguration HBO Says They Didn't Keep Robinson Off The Broadcast...
Posted by Dan Savage on Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 10:00 PM
...the Obama team did.
Contacted Sunday night by AfterElton.com concerning the exclusion of Robinson's prayer, HBO said via email, "The producer of the concert has said that the Presidential Inaugural Committee made the decision to keep the invocation as part of the pre-show."...
Wherever the fault lies, this is yet another unfortunate turn involving GLBT concerns over Obama's selection of Rick Warren to deliver the prayer at Obama's inauguration. Many in the gay community saw Robinson's selection to deliver Sunday's prayer as an olive branch.
But given that most Americans could not attend the concert, instead having to watch it on television, the decision to not broadcast the prayer is being seen by many in the GLBT community as a slight.
When you're throwing folks a bone it's a good idea to make sure they can, you know, see the bone.
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I just finished watching the broadcast on www.hbo.com and was wondering why that portion was not broadcast, now I know.
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when was the last time you actually cared to listen to a prayer?
why don't you stop the nitpicking and just let the dude do what we voted him into office for.
why don't you stop the nitpicking and just let the dude do what we voted him into office for.
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OBVIOUSLY OBAMA IS ANTI-GAY AND SHOULD BE BOYCOTTED AT THIS RATE WE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER WITH MCCAIN PALIN AT LEAST WE WOULD KNOW WHERE WE STAND AND WE'D HAVE A WOMYN IN A HIGH OFFICE HARRIETT CHRISTIAN WAS RIGHT HE REALLY IS AN INADEQUATE BLACK MAN LOOK WHAT THE BLACKS DID TO US ON PROP EIGHT DAN SAVAGE WAS RIGHT EVEN IF HE IS AN ANTI QUEER GAY
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Why don't the important gay "leaders" pick important fights like repealing DADT and DOMA as more urgent priorities that can help more fellow gays instead of nitpicking these meaningless "bones". Personally I don't think Obambi is gonna do shit for the gay community just like the Clintons didn't do squat.
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"the Presidential Inaugural Committee" doesn't equal "the Obama team"
But accuracy has never stopped any Savage, Dan or Michael, has it? Not when there's hyperbole to exploit.
But accuracy has never stopped any Savage, Dan or Michael, has it? Not when there's hyperbole to exploit.
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The Presidential Inaugural Committee is that thing headed by Dianne Feinstein that's supposed to be running the entire inaugural planning. Hm. Dianne Feinstein. The Republican who keeps running as a Democrat, leaning just far enough left that most people are fooled by the (D) after her name. Yeah. THAT Dianne Feinstein.
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I don't think the religious part is what I wanted to see. I was happy to see the men's choir, complete w/ aids ribbons.. does that count for something?
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Good reporting by afterelton.com, but isn't it possible that a good number of people who aren't in the GLBT community see this as a slight, too?
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Yep, this sure is a real actual issue of major importance that you're totally going to still care about next week.
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Hmmm. But it also seems like censorship at the Lincoln Memorial, of all places. BAD.
You'd think they'd be more savvy than that! It just seems like a very bad echo. We'll have to see how this plays out, but starting the presidency with real or perceived censorship sends a bad sign to all communities.
You'd think they'd be more savvy than that! It just seems like a very bad echo. We'll have to see how this plays out, but starting the presidency with real or perceived censorship sends a bad sign to all communities.
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Well well, Can it be any clearer to Gay Americans that the fight for Civil Rights is up to Gay Americans? Why rely on others to fight for us? Obama might be on our side, but he's probably NOT going to do the heavy lifting. Str8 folk are willing to walk with us in our fight for Civil Rights, but they won't be throwing the punches for us. Stop the dam bitching (and I do my share) and UNDERSTAND that it's OUR fight, not their's and support ERW, HRC, BOZO the GAY CLOWN, your Gay Elected official, Or any Gay activist group. Don't expect others to fight your fights for you.
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It might be good that this happened, that way the GLBT leaders won't slack off when it comes to fighting for equal rights.
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Let's try to actually think this one through for a moment, instead of flying off the handle...
Big Concert, lots of headliners. Many of whom donated to the campaign.
Limited amount of time scheduled on TV.
Shall we leave one of the actual entertainers off in favor of a gay Espicopalean, or cut the clergy and give the people what they want?
Jeez. Could it be they were making a rational decision, based on the preferences of the majorty, some of whom are gay? Or was it some sort of horrible insult to all gay people that dooms the administration before it has even taken office?
Well, obviously it's the latter. Because it's all about homos, all the time. No one group has ever suffered as much. No one group has ever has ever been so oppressed.
DAMN THESE HOMOPHOBES!!!!
Big Concert, lots of headliners. Many of whom donated to the campaign.
Limited amount of time scheduled on TV.
Shall we leave one of the actual entertainers off in favor of a gay Espicopalean, or cut the clergy and give the people what they want?
Jeez. Could it be they were making a rational decision, based on the preferences of the majorty, some of whom are gay? Or was it some sort of horrible insult to all gay people that dooms the administration before it has even taken office?
Well, obviously it's the latter. Because it's all about homos, all the time. No one group has ever suffered as much. No one group has ever has ever been so oppressed.
DAMN THESE HOMOPHOBES!!!!
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Honestly, do you really give a fuck about this? I don't! I'm just glad they didn't cut out Mary J. Blige or U2 -- *that* would have actually annoyed me.
Are you just searching for crap to get hysterical about? Why do some people get so caught up on this stupid symbolic bullshit? This is the first time a bunch of fags have gotten upset about missing out on a prayer. Let's wait and see what he does--or doesn't--do for us once he's, you know, president. All this conspiracy theory stuff is just embarrassing and makes us look petty beyond belief.
Are you just searching for crap to get hysterical about? Why do some people get so caught up on this stupid symbolic bullshit? This is the first time a bunch of fags have gotten upset about missing out on a prayer. Let's wait and see what he does--or doesn't--do for us once he's, you know, president. All this conspiracy theory stuff is just embarrassing and makes us look petty beyond belief.
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Note to gays: Obama doesn't care about you, or the rest of his "base." What are you going to do about it? Vote Republican?
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most Americans could not attend the concert, instead having to watch it on television
Most Americans do not get premium cable, either. This American listened to it on NPR, which included the prayer.
I'm guessing that HBO paid to broadcast a concert, not a prayer.
Most Americans do not get premium cable, either. This American listened to it on NPR, which included the prayer.
I'm guessing that HBO paid to broadcast a concert, not a prayer.
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@18 I was listening on NPR and didn't hear it.
@9 This Episcopalian is certain pissed off. It's the genteel part of our heritage. We know a direct insult when given in our direction. Not the the insult was directed at us so much as it was to the gay a lesbian citizens of this country.
@9 This Episcopalian is certain pissed off. It's the genteel part of our heritage. We know a direct insult when given in our direction. Not the the insult was directed at us so much as it was to the gay a lesbian citizens of this country.
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For all those asking why the overemotional gays are being hysterical about this and making it into such a big deal:
Barrack Obama's team chose Rick Warren. Rick Warren hates the gays and works tirelessly to hurt our community regardless of what lesbian rockers with endless supplies of money say. The Obama team, recognizing this oopsie, MADE A BIG DEAL about telling us that a GAY MARCHING BAND was in the parade! Then the OBAMA people made a BIG DEAL about Gene Robinson giving this oh-so-important inaugural kick-off invocation! But apparently it wasn't oh-so-important enough to be included on TV.
Why am I disappointed? I'm disappointed b/c I was made to believe BY THE BIG DEAL THAT THE OBAMA PEOPLE MADE that Gene Robinson was giving a big whoopdeedoo invocation. Except this wasn't exactly the truth. So this isn't me being unreasonably hysterical about something that wasn't a big deal. It was made into a big deal by those choosing Gene Robinson.
Overall is it life altering? Of course not. It's not really that important. And I'd prefer to hear NO prayers at all at inaugural events. But this was supposed to be "the thing" that made up for Warren. Fail.
Cheers,
Balt-O-Matt
Barrack Obama's team chose Rick Warren. Rick Warren hates the gays and works tirelessly to hurt our community regardless of what lesbian rockers with endless supplies of money say. The Obama team, recognizing this oopsie, MADE A BIG DEAL about telling us that a GAY MARCHING BAND was in the parade! Then the OBAMA people made a BIG DEAL about Gene Robinson giving this oh-so-important inaugural kick-off invocation! But apparently it wasn't oh-so-important enough to be included on TV.
Why am I disappointed? I'm disappointed b/c I was made to believe BY THE BIG DEAL THAT THE OBAMA PEOPLE MADE that Gene Robinson was giving a big whoopdeedoo invocation. Except this wasn't exactly the truth. So this isn't me being unreasonably hysterical about something that wasn't a big deal. It was made into a big deal by those choosing Gene Robinson.
Overall is it life altering? Of course not. It's not really that important. And I'd prefer to hear NO prayers at all at inaugural events. But this was supposed to be "the thing" that made up for Warren. Fail.
Cheers,
Balt-O-Matt
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I voted for Obama, as I know that sexual minorities will suffer far worse at the hands of the GOP. That said, I have never had any illusions about the Democrats who seemingly lack any sort of central directive.
Does choosing Warren or omitting Robinson have any long term impact? No. So what is its value? What it tells us is that their word (LGBT folk are mistreated, we will change that) when compared to their action (they are disposeable) don't match. Which one reflects the Obama administration's position? I guess we will have to wait and see for ourselves.
David Ezell
http://justskimmed.blogspot.com
Does choosing Warren or omitting Robinson have any long term impact? No. So what is its value? What it tells us is that their word (LGBT folk are mistreated, we will change that) when compared to their action (they are disposeable) don't match. Which one reflects the Obama administration's position? I guess we will have to wait and see for ourselves.
David Ezell
http://justskimmed.blogspot.com
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hahahahahahahaha
hohohohhohohohohohho
heeheeheeheeheeheehee
hahahahahahaha
you kids slay me!
the nonstop bitchin and whinin...
oy
go ahead-
VOTE REPUBLICAN
I DARE YOU
filthy animals
hohohohhohohohohohho
heeheeheeheeheeheehee
hahahahahahaha
you kids slay me!
the nonstop bitchin and whinin...
oy
go ahead-
VOTE REPUBLICAN
I DARE YOU
filthy animals
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I'm a little irritated that the Gay Men's Chorus of Washington, D.C. -- which sang backup on "My Country 'Tis of Thee" behind Josh Groban and Heather Headley -- didn't receive so much as a chyron to let folks at home know who they were watching. This is the first time a GLBT chorus has been part of the "official" inaugural hoopla, and considering Queen Latifah gave that nice little speech about Marian Anderson's groundbreaking performance of the same song on the same site, seems it would only have been fitting to, you know, mention it.
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pelosi wants to roll back the tax breaks for the rich anf investigate the bush admin - this should be more important to all preferences - along with health care, etc.
obama told you all along he doesn't favor gay marriage.
what do you think, .3% of pop cares about hbo prayer while maybe 30% would like to see the bush admin pay for their crimes.
i'd bet even more gays care about the latter.
obama told you all along he doesn't favor gay marriage.
what do you think, .3% of pop cares about hbo prayer while maybe 30% would like to see the bush admin pay for their crimes.
i'd bet even more gays care about the latter.
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16.
I'd like your definition of "hysterical," please. Two posts by Dan questioning whose decision this was and the reasoning behind it is not my definition of "hysterical." Some posts asking WTF is not "hysterical."
Honestly, you coming in here throwing around hyperbolic terms and accusations simply from a few reasonable questions seems a bit over the top.
Conspiracy theory? Again with the exaggerations.
All we wanted, all we hoped for was a goddamn presence at this inauguration, even if it had to be in a religious context. All we wanted was a visual counter to the invited bigot who has called us incestuous pedophiles. That is all we asked.
That you and others here can't muster up a little fucking empathy and try to understand where we're coming from is actually more disappointing than what the Obama team pulled yesterday.
And the "wait until he's president" argument is weak at best. All of this is official. All of it is meaningful. All of it sets a precedent.
Are you just searching for crap to get hysterical about?
I'd like your definition of "hysterical," please. Two posts by Dan questioning whose decision this was and the reasoning behind it is not my definition of "hysterical." Some posts asking WTF is not "hysterical."
Honestly, you coming in here throwing around hyperbolic terms and accusations simply from a few reasonable questions seems a bit over the top.
All this conspiracy theory stuff is just embarrassing and makes us look petty beyond belief.
Conspiracy theory? Again with the exaggerations.
All we wanted, all we hoped for was a goddamn presence at this inauguration, even if it had to be in a religious context. All we wanted was a visual counter to the invited bigot who has called us incestuous pedophiles. That is all we asked.
That you and others here can't muster up a little fucking empathy and try to understand where we're coming from is actually more disappointing than what the Obama team pulled yesterday.
And the "wait until he's president" argument is weak at best. All of this is official. All of it is meaningful. All of it sets a precedent.
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@27. People can care about more than one thing. And the president has to do more than one thing at a time, too. This isn't a discussion about making Bush pay for his administration's crimes. I want the new administration to *also*, but not exclusively, focus on the economic mess we're in. But we didn't vote for a president who can focus on only one thing at a time.
Cheers.
Cheers.
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Assuming this is not a case of pass the buck, here is another indication that the words and actions of the Obama group don't match.
Frankly, I could hardly care less about either Robinson's comments nor those of the bigoted Rick Warren, who was chosen to speak on innaguration day. I believe in the separation of church and state and think mixing the two has gotten us in a lot of the mess from which we all are suffering. That said, Robinson's selection was seen as a concession to queers after the Warren insult. But the bait and switch of asking him, and then silencing him, is problematic.
Frankly, I could hardly care less about either Robinson's comments nor those of the bigoted Rick Warren, who was chosen to speak on innaguration day. I believe in the separation of church and state and think mixing the two has gotten us in a lot of the mess from which we all are suffering. That said, Robinson's selection was seen as a concession to queers after the Warren insult. But the bait and switch of asking him, and then silencing him, is problematic.
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suckers.
you fell for this one; hook, line and sinker.
gays got all wet and squishy at the prospect of a queer Bishop praying at a government function.
after years of squealing to get religion out of government.
you cut the balls off your own argument.
you don't mind state religion,
as long as it is a queer religion.
exposed.
the sweetest part-
Robinson's bit part didn't even make the tube.
Obama is a political genius god.
awesome.
you fell for this one; hook, line and sinker.
gays got all wet and squishy at the prospect of a queer Bishop praying at a government function.
after years of squealing to get religion out of government.
you cut the balls off your own argument.
you don't mind state religion,
as long as it is a queer religion.
exposed.
the sweetest part-
Robinson's bit part didn't even make the tube.
Obama is a political genius god.
awesome.
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Good luck to him, but Obama's just another politician. GLBTs helped him win and now we'll be thrown under the bus. He didn't mean a word of it, folks. Not one damn word.
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I usually don't intervene in matters like this (way too much fun just to watch it all unfold on its own...) but you guys are some of my pet favorites and the pain level and angst is getting way too high here-
There is no need to fret about Robinson's prayer being on HBO or NPR or not.
It is irrelevant.
He might as well fart in a hurricane.
No one is listening anyway.
Do you think the man above keeps an ear cocked listening for this faggot's prayer?
So don't fret.
please.
But be assured...
I'm listening.
There is no need to fret about Robinson's prayer being on HBO or NPR or not.
It is irrelevant.
He might as well fart in a hurricane.
No one is listening anyway.
Do you think the man above keeps an ear cocked listening for this faggot's prayer?
So don't fret.
please.
But be assured...
I'm listening.
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Well - let's say for a second that was a technical gaffe by the Obama team (oh - say someone didn't get a memo forwarded from their already overloaded blackberry, someone's PA got the times mixed up). Even if it was a minor technical gaffe - this was meant to be the concession that the Obama team gave us and would have balanced out the other wingnut opening the ceremony. Silencing this portion shows a big oversight on their end, and will only stir an already volatile culture war in the coming years. (*And if they're ignoring it because they want to avoid a culture war - that's worse)...
This is the equivalent of your aunt forcing you to sit at the kid's table at Thanksgiving when she can easily damn well have opened the other wing of the frickken table.
This is the equivalent of your aunt forcing you to sit at the kid's table at Thanksgiving when she can easily damn well have opened the other wing of the frickken table.
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Yerbamatte- Good analogy.
Over-the-hill at 45, I still sit at the Thanksgiving table with my peers. Back in the 70s I wasn't so self-aware. Big events are always a letdown these days.
Over-the-hill at 45, I still sit at the Thanksgiving table with my peers. Back in the 70s I wasn't so self-aware. Big events are always a letdown these days.
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your analogy has promise but needs work...
It is like auntie making you sit at the kids table when there are empty seats at the grownup table and she took your arch enemy cousin who is always calling you a 'poop eating faggot' (which is true but you still hate it when he says it, dammit) and he doesn't even like your auntie and she knows it but she let him sit next to her at the grownup table anyway and have three deserts and no vegetables and all that got served at the kiddie table where you sit sulking is rhudabaga hash that taste like shit and your aunt knows you hate it and are deathly allergic to rhudabaga anyway, plus you are going to be living with your auntie for the next four years and this dinner was supposed to be a party in your honor.
Don't you think that about sums it up?
your analogy has promise but needs work...
It is like auntie making you sit at the kids table when there are empty seats at the grownup table and she took your arch enemy cousin who is always calling you a 'poop eating faggot' (which is true but you still hate it when he says it, dammit) and he doesn't even like your auntie and she knows it but she let him sit next to her at the grownup table anyway and have three deserts and no vegetables and all that got served at the kiddie table where you sit sulking is rhudabaga hash that taste like shit and your aunt knows you hate it and are deathly allergic to rhudabaga anyway, plus you are going to be living with your auntie for the next four years and this dinner was supposed to be a party in your honor.
Don't you think that about sums it up?
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I tried to care about this issue, but I don't. Even though he hasn't yet taken office we already know more kids will get health care under Obama, because unlike Bush, he has vowed to sign the children's health care bill Congress passed last week. Obama's going to be a brilliant and great president. And if pulling the country forward on gay rights requires a little massaging of some bigots I say masage away.
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#38. You kick much ass.
#39. At this point, Obama's "vows" mean shit.
"Big picture! Big picture!" At this point, I have every reason to believe the Big Picture is paint-by-numbers.
#39. At this point, Obama's "vows" mean shit.
"Big picture! Big picture!" At this point, I have every reason to believe the Big Picture is paint-by-numbers.
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God, this is pathetic. None of you even give a shit about religion, and 90% of the homos who post on various gay blogs mock the religious. Now all of a sudden "this is the last straw?" When I read comments about how people raced to watch this thing at home, or some friends house, I just think, why? I don't want to watch any fucking prayer, whether it's by Robinson or someone else. But why bother when you can screech about your oppression, or employ the phrase "under the bus" for the millionth time.
Personally, I would like clarification from the Obama transition team. Remember, 71% of blacks voted for Prop 8. Until they didn't.
Personally, I would like clarification from the Obama transition team. Remember, 71% of blacks voted for Prop 8. Until they didn't.
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perhaps here lies the problem - the party in the honor of the gays? the gays didn't elect Obama, the gays weren't his earliest supporters, he never ran as the gay candidate - he ran as the anti-war candidate (kind of), he ran as the universal health care candidate (sort of) he ran as a reverse the tax cuts for the rich candidate, he ran as a "yes we can", hope, and change candidate but in no way did he run as a gay rights and marriage candidate.
Stop torture, stop the killing wars, get us a reasonable health care system, raise taxes on the super wealthy and don't risk getting those things done for benefits to a small minority, that were never promised.
plus you are going to be living with your auntie for the next four years and this dinner was supposed to be a party in your honor.
perhaps here lies the problem - the party in the honor of the gays? the gays didn't elect Obama, the gays weren't his earliest supporters, he never ran as the gay candidate - he ran as the anti-war candidate (kind of), he ran as the universal health care candidate (sort of) he ran as a reverse the tax cuts for the rich candidate, he ran as a "yes we can", hope, and change candidate but in no way did he run as a gay rights and marriage candidate.
Stop torture, stop the killing wars, get us a reasonable health care system, raise taxes on the super wealthy and don't risk getting those things done for benefits to a small minority, that were never promised.
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Remember, Obama was the lesser of two evils on the ballot in November.
And no, there will always be an excuse NOT to do anything for the GLBT community.
Though he claims to be a "fierce advocate" for gays and lesbians, I still can't find a picture of him marching with ACT UP during the 1980's when he would have been in college.... You know the age when people who claim to be activists start to be activists....
And no, there will always be an excuse NOT to do anything for the GLBT community.
Though he claims to be a "fierce advocate" for gays and lesbians, I still can't find a picture of him marching with ACT UP during the 1980's when he would have been in college.... You know the age when people who claim to be activists start to be activists....
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42. I've been hearing this "religion" argument since Warren was invited to the inaugural. But this isn't about whether or not religion belongs at the inaugural, and it never has been.
43. I think the "in our honor" point was that Obama has been including "gay/straight" in all of his speeches. But his actions don't live up to his words.
43. I think the "in our honor" point was that Obama has been including "gay/straight" in all of his speeches. But his actions don't live up to his words.
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yeah and he said he'd be happy to meet with joe da plumber and cared about reagan dems blah, blah blah.
the rabbit eared gays think hearing gays and straights in the same sentence is some grand commitment to every gay desire.
had Obama been pro gay marriage we might going to the movies tomorrow.
the rabbit eared gays think hearing gays and straights in the same sentence is some grand commitment to every gay desire.
had Obama been pro gay marriage we might going to the movies tomorrow.
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One detail that needs to be cleared up here is that none of the choirs were named. While watching we kept having to look them up on the net. Only the main performers were titled. It was a pretty bad production on HBO's part all the way around. We watched the east coast feed live and just assumed they'd clean stuff up for the west coast feed. Apparently they did not.
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Obama team *does not equal* Presidential Inaugural Committee.
I think he has a profound understanding of incremental change and how it happens. He won't shove anything through that so much of the country can't understand and that would cause a huge backlash. I think he's working towards it becoming an "of course" kind of thing, instead of a "you will do this because I say so" kind of thing.
I think he has a profound understanding of incremental change and how it happens. He won't shove anything through that so much of the country can't understand and that would cause a huge backlash. I think he's working towards it becoming an "of course" kind of thing, instead of a "you will do this because I say so" kind of thing.
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I'm annoyed, but not enraged.
On the one hand, inviting Robinson was specifically meant as an olive branch to the GLBT community that was rightfully insulted by Rick Warren. So to invite him and then censor him is a retarded gaff at the very least.
On the other hand, I couldn't give a shit about either of them. If I had my druthers, I'd exclude both of them. I'd rather they don't say any prayers of any kind. I don't believe in that crap anyway. And I suspect that 90% of the population isn't paying any attention to the symbolism of either Warren or Robinson at all.
In the end, if he gets rid of DOMA and DADT, I'll happily forgive him for this silly inauguration bullshit.
On the one hand, inviting Robinson was specifically meant as an olive branch to the GLBT community that was rightfully insulted by Rick Warren. So to invite him and then censor him is a retarded gaff at the very least.
On the other hand, I couldn't give a shit about either of them. If I had my druthers, I'd exclude both of them. I'd rather they don't say any prayers of any kind. I don't believe in that crap anyway. And I suspect that 90% of the population isn't paying any attention to the symbolism of either Warren or Robinson at all.
In the end, if he gets rid of DOMA and DADT, I'll happily forgive him for this silly inauguration bullshit.
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No, I don't think that. Giving the benefit of the doubt, I'd say it was the Inaugural Committee and not Obama, and I'm sorry nobody made sure Robinson was included. But I don't think it was a bait-and-switch move. And my other comments were about his approach generally. We abolished slavery, but still had segregated water fountains 90 years later, and went from that to having a black president in a space of 50 years. It takes time to change people's brains. And the Bush years have set us back a ways, too.
No, I don't think that. Giving the benefit of the doubt, I'd say it was the Inaugural Committee and not Obama, and I'm sorry nobody made sure Robinson was included. But I don't think it was a bait-and-switch move. And my other comments were about his approach generally. We abolished slavery, but still had segregated water fountains 90 years later, and went from that to having a black president in a space of 50 years. It takes time to change people's brains. And the Bush years have set us back a ways, too.
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If his sexuality wasn't an issue, it would be the religious people who would have their panties in a twist. We're talking about a prayer to a being that probably doesn't exist. Who cares if it's given by a gay man or a straight one. Nobody needs to see that stuff anyway.
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I have been very annoyed by the whole Rick Warren thing since it began -- you know, "what the fuck is he thinking," "is he already pandering?" et al. But then I realized that the hostility that these white righters are throwing at him is extremely volatile. As much as everyone HATES Bush, is he hiding behind bullet-proof glass at every opportunity? No. You can bean that asshole with your shoe if you get close enough. But Obama is SCARED -- and it ain't of teh gays. He has to try to calm these people down because they are really, really FUCKING NUTS and there is a LOT of them. I've decided to just wait and see if he really threw teh gays under the bus, or just made them wait for the next one. But keep talking -- he needs to know that we're paying attention.
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I'm more than fine with giving gays equal rights and letting ppl's brains catch up on their own speed. I'm not in favor of making gays wait for their rights until that catching-up happens. We can all agree to disagree once everyone has their individual rights, kay? Hell, if there isn't a (openly) gay president for the next 50 years, I can let that slide if it gets gays equal rights now.
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Yes, not only must each & every whiny hysterical blogger sign off on every Obama appointment, no matter how small, but they also must be included in every scheduling issue for the next four years or they'll... they'll... BLOG about how horrible Obama is!
What a horrible President who hasn't even taken office yet! It's the Holocaust all over again!
What a horrible President who hasn't even taken office yet! It's the Holocaust all over again!
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Is HBO also going to come up with a pathetic reason why the D.C. Gay Men's Chorus wasn't recognized? The military glee club was, so that kind of shows what they choose to acknowledge.
And as for some of you who don't see this as being an issue, you're probably not living in a state that's still reeling from Prop 8. We need to know that this President gives a shit about the LGBT community. That probably makes some people a little more sensitive. Be grateful if you live in Seattle. I realize now how lucky I was.
And as for some of you who don't see this as being an issue, you're probably not living in a state that's still reeling from Prop 8. We need to know that this President gives a shit about the LGBT community. That probably makes some people a little more sensitive. Be grateful if you live in Seattle. I realize now how lucky I was.
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