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Hetero Today in Traditional Marriage
Posted by Dan Savage on Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:48 AM
A father is accused of trying to sell his 14-year-old daughter for marriage in hopes of getting money and 150 cases of beer in return, Greenfield police said.Macelino de Jesus Martinez, 36, was arrested Monday on suspicion of trying to arrange to have his daughter marry Margarito de Jesus Galindo, 18, for $16,000, 100 cases of Corona, 50 cases of Modelo beer, several cases of meat, two cases of wine, 50 cases of Gatorade and 50 cases of soft drinks, authorities said.
The girl moved in with Galindo and when payments were not received, her father called police to get his daughter back.... Arranged marriages are common in the section of Mexico where both Galindo and Martinez are from.
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The irony is the fact that the two scumbags who tried to arrange this marriage both have Jesus in their names.
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damn, I should have demanded more from my bf's family when I was sold off...no wait, we don't have gay marriage yet. The economic horrors.....
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Bad Bad Mexicans!
Bad Bad Hispanic Americans!
You didn't vote for Prop 8!
Civil Rights Traitors!
You all deserve to be deported!!
(and have your children given to Gay couples!)
Bad Bad Hispanic Americans!
You didn't vote for Prop 8!
Civil Rights Traitors!
You all deserve to be deported!!
(and have your children given to Gay couples!)
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But it's in the Bible!?!
Exodus 21:7
7 "If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as menservants do.
Exodus 21:7
7 "If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as menservants do.
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There's a reason this one is filed under "today in traditional marriage," @4, and not "every child..."
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It is weird that this is one of the things we gays ought to be free to do as well, and to think that once we are free to do it, some of us will.
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@5 Exactly! If all of those "traditional marriage" supporters really cared about preserving marriage as it takes place in the Bible, they'd be all about arranged marriage (and polygamy, for that matter).
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Ummm...Today in Tradition Mexican Marriage. Shouldn't we finish the fight here first? Even if this took please in the US of A your big argument seems to be that it's common in Mexico.
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18, it was, and historically, this was the definition of traditional marriage until fairly recently. It was redefined in the last century.
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Wow, a traditional marriage finally getting stomped on. Somehow, it must be the gays fault that this guy didn't get police help in enforcing his bride price.
(A dowry is goods and money a bride brings to her family, bride price is what you pay for a bride. In many cultures both are/were practiced, so you kind of threw in a couple goats to sweeten the pot and maybe got an extra set of sheets with your bride.)
(A dowry is goods and money a bride brings to her family, bride price is what you pay for a bride. In many cultures both are/were practiced, so you kind of threw in a couple goats to sweeten the pot and maybe got an extra set of sheets with your bride.)
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Age of consent is only 13 in Mexico...
Why am I just not all that appalled? Its a dowry, albeit chock full of frosty beverages
Guarantee that her butt wil be on the first southbound Greyhound as soon as the smoke clears where they will do this for less profit!
Why am I just not all that appalled? Its a dowry, albeit chock full of frosty beverages
Guarantee that her butt wil be on the first southbound Greyhound as soon as the smoke clears where they will do this for less profit!
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Age of consent is 18.
Dan is right in some rural areas of Mexico women are sold or just taken as a wife!
Dan is right in some rural areas of Mexico women are sold or just taken as a wife!
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I've been to rural Mexican weddings(the brides seemed around 18ish) where every guest brings a case of cerveza and there's always much more than 150 cases. Likely they are gifts from the guests and the gringo police don't know and/or are deliberately sensationalizing the story.
I wouldn't take the cops word on the circumstances of the marriage as well. The couple is only 4 years apart, they could be a freshman/senior couple in high school together. (Anglo teens only date kids their exact same age right?) I'd be more suspicious if it was an older man. Laws in most US states allow such a marriage with parents' permission (Change those laws!) and happens all the time when Anglo 18 yo boys get their girlfriends pregnant.
I wouldn't take the cops word on the circumstances of the marriage as well. The couple is only 4 years apart, they could be a freshman/senior couple in high school together. (Anglo teens only date kids their exact same age right?) I'd be more suspicious if it was an older man. Laws in most US states allow such a marriage with parents' permission (Change those laws!) and happens all the time when Anglo 18 yo boys get their girlfriends pregnant.
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Arranged marriages aren't all bad, they often work out, and it also wasn't bad when people used to choose husbands for their daughters based on the dowry they would receive. There's nothing wrong with wanting your daughter to marry well, at least it was heterosexual marriage, however, it seems that this father's demand for beer, meat, wine, and gatorade is degrading and disrespectful. . .What is that about? If it's part of their culture, well, whatever, but this father did not have his child's best interests in mind. It seems like he just wanted to get drunk, and when his beer, wine and gatorade ran out, he had some money to get more.
I don't believe that a 14 year-old child should be sold into marriage. Too bad this parent didn't care more about his child. But with a father like that, who knows, maybe this girl would have been better off with the new husband.
I don't believe that a 14 year-old child should be sold into marriage. Too bad this parent didn't care more about his child. But with a father like that, who knows, maybe this girl would have been better off with the new husband.
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