Friday, January 9, 2009
Nightlife Pub Crawl Tonight
Posted by Dan Savage on Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:27 PM
I'm thinking that Changes in Wallingford and Martin's Off Madison and Fox Sports Grill—you know, all the other fag bars in town—are probably kind of bummed that they weren't on the crazed ricin terrorist's list. Maybe we should all hit those places before we start off on the official pub crawl.
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Enormous sacrafice the gays are making for this cause, giving up their Friday night to go out to be a bunch of gay bars, when normally they'd be...oh wait
Lamest. Protest. Ever.
Lamest. Protest. Ever.
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Maybe it was one of the bar owners that sent that threat around hoping it would somehow drive up business during the post holiday slow down?
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Yeah this all feels stupid, someone wants to terrorize gay bars and I don't see why it isn't getting the terrorism treatment. I mean they can trace the letters to the printer they were printed from, and from that zero in on some people.
And you know what? DON'T support Seattle gay bars for this. Support them for a real reason or crush them.
And you know what? DON'T support Seattle gay bars for this. Support them for a real reason or crush them.
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We're making t-shirts.... And we will most likely have ricin free lids with us!
Drink with me, I'm ricin free!
Drink with me, I'm ricin free!
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I have posted some more details about some of tonight's bar events here:
http://www.seattlegayscene.com/2009/01/t…
http://www.seattlegayscene.com/2009/01/t…
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Boozing the night away!
A novel way to dispel fear and fight terrorism and hate.
I'm sure the Marines and FBI and Girl Scouts will have recruiters there.
No wonder you clowns got your clocks cleaned in California (twice)
A novel way to dispel fear and fight terrorism and hate.
I'm sure the Marines and FBI and Girl Scouts will have recruiters there.
No wonder you clowns got your clocks cleaned in California (twice)
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They're organizing a protest that involves going to several bars with friends and some of you are complaining?
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The Eagle is missing from the list. They got a letter too.
So, here's the thing. I'm with Dan's theory that this isn't a religous or political nutbag but a bitter and angry gay man who has recently been diagnosed with HIV. Some naive guy got taken advantage of or maybe a social misfit who tried using risky sex to become accepted into what he thought was the cool crowd.
So whoever this guy is isn't going to see a bunch of laughing happy "cool" homos out celebrating his threat as a joke and say, "oh wow, I guess I was wrong." It'll just prove his point.
I'm going out tonight. I usually do on Friday nights. I will most likely be at one or two of the targeted bars. I always keep a close eye on my drinks anyway. But I think this protest(? really?) is dumb and most of the people involved have probably completely missed the point.
So, here's the thing. I'm with Dan's theory that this isn't a religous or political nutbag but a bitter and angry gay man who has recently been diagnosed with HIV. Some naive guy got taken advantage of or maybe a social misfit who tried using risky sex to become accepted into what he thought was the cool crowd.
So whoever this guy is isn't going to see a bunch of laughing happy "cool" homos out celebrating his threat as a joke and say, "oh wow, I guess I was wrong." It'll just prove his point.
I'm going out tonight. I usually do on Friday nights. I will most likely be at one or two of the targeted bars. I always keep a close eye on my drinks anyway. But I think this protest(? really?) is dumb and most of the people involved have probably completely missed the point.
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i know it fairly stupid to quibble over this..i mean really.. if people think it's dumb ..well whatever.. but it's not a protest, it's support. the idea that some places, places that for many of us have been integral to our community losing buisness because some nutbag (.. no not nutbag..i happen to like nut bags) some demented , possibly self loathing, psycho says he's planning killing us, is one of the many many things that makes my blood boil. i've worked at two places on this list , and wouldn't be caught..ummm. er... dead in a couple of the others, but i would gladly support all in this instance..
and i hope that martin's, changes, and madison pub are taking precautions even though they're not on the list.
and i hope that martin's, changes, and madison pub are taking precautions even though they're not on the list.
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In RE: LPE's post above (...Lamest. Protest. Ever.)
WTF?! Your comment IS poignant and funny, but come on! This isn't about gays protesting terrorism and threats against them. It's about protesting threats and terrorism against gays. I don't think this is lame at all -- just convenient if you're a partier.
Jebus. I wish our economy didn't suck total eggs and I could afford to go pubcrawl with 'yall tonight.
PS I'm straight. But I'm SO gay for gay. I vote for you. I <3 you.
WTF?! Your comment IS poignant and funny, but come on! This isn't about gays protesting terrorism and threats against them. It's about protesting threats and terrorism against gays. I don't think this is lame at all -- just convenient if you're a partier.
Jebus. I wish our economy didn't suck total eggs and I could afford to go pubcrawl with 'yall tonight.
PS I'm straight. But I'm SO gay for gay. I vote for you. I <3 you.
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I didn't theorize that the guy had recently become HIV+.
Madison Pub, for some reason, didn't want to participate. Not sure why the Eagle isn't on the list, as the manager of the Eagle created the poster.
Madison Pub, for some reason, didn't want to participate. Not sure why the Eagle isn't on the list, as the manager of the Eagle created the poster.
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Madison Pub doesn't support anything community-related unless there's something in it for them. In this case they don't have to put their name on it, take any kind of risk, or take a stand, and they know they'll still get people in there drinking. It's fairly typical for them.
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It says "The Seattle Eagle" ... did the poster get updated, or does the Slog need to retake that critical-reading class?
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@13 and 15: I'm with ya.
@18: MadPub also opted out of hosting an Obama Night that all of the other gay bars took part in during the campaign last year. Apparently MadPub still wishes to remain "politically neutral" (the excuse they gave for the aforementioned decision in 2008).
@18: MadPub also opted out of hosting an Obama Night that all of the other gay bars took part in during the campaign last year. Apparently MadPub still wishes to remain "politically neutral" (the excuse they gave for the aforementioned decision in 2008).
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@14 for the win. It's a show of support, and so far it's spreading like wildfire.
Even amongst people who oppose gay marriage, but think no American deserves to live in Fear.
Seriously, I'm surprised by how many people are willing to do this just to stand up against the actions of a loony tune nutso. It's great!
Even amongst people who oppose gay marriage, but think no American deserves to live in Fear.
Seriously, I'm surprised by how many people are willing to do this just to stand up against the actions of a loony tune nutso. It's great!
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My bad... I think I wrote "protest" because there's been so many lately and my Freudian Slip switch fired.
Nevertheless, I can't believe there were some party poopers out there complaining about this support night.
Nevertheless, I can't believe there were some party poopers out there complaining about this support night.
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So wait. Let me get this straight. Just because the Madison Pub doesn't want to hang a banner outside their door, suddenly they suck and we shouldn't be supporting them? Even though it was the Pub that was one of the bars to get the letter?
Jesus Christ.
Frankly, I'm puzzled why we even need banners for tonight. Just go out and crawl! Just show up to however many bars you want to go to and just buy drinks and have a good time. Why the hell do we have to turn this into some big, dramatic production?
Jesus Christ.
Frankly, I'm puzzled why we even need banners for tonight. Just go out and crawl! Just show up to however many bars you want to go to and just buy drinks and have a good time. Why the hell do we have to turn this into some big, dramatic production?
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It's AMAZING!!!!
People willing to go out and drink on a Friday night !!!
All across the nation tonight MILLIONS of Americans will be going out and showing their solidarity with Gay Seattlites by getting smashed.
kumbaya!
It's AMAZING!!!!
People willing to go out and drink on a Friday night !!!
All across the nation tonight MILLIONS of Americans will be going out and showing their solidarity with Gay Seattlites by getting smashed.
kumbaya!
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each bar does its thing - Madison Pub sponsors sports teams at great cost
let's quit baiting each other - good bar or bad bar - IT IS A FUKING TERRORIST THREAT TO KILL PEOPLE, MAYBE YOU
I think the threat is real - and just wonder how there are so many experts on the demented psycho mind??
Be careful, do bottled beer only. (love Rolling Rock)
let's quit baiting each other - good bar or bad bar - IT IS A FUKING TERRORIST THREAT TO KILL PEOPLE, MAYBE YOU
I think the threat is real - and just wonder how there are so many experts on the demented psycho mind??
Be careful, do bottled beer only. (love Rolling Rock)
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Don't ask me where Martins-Off-Madison lost their apostrophe, but they did, Blanche, they did. Like someone said, gay people would proof-read their own death sentence.
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@ 18 re: 13,
Sorry Dan, I thought you had come to the HIV+ theory because of the quote plagiarized.
AND The Eagle is on the list (as pointed out to me at The Eagle) listed as The Seattle Eagle (apparently I was stoned the first time I read it).
So yeah, I did go to support The Eagle but I still would have felt a little bad about rubbing salt in this dudes already obviously gaping wounds by being part of the crawl.
I stand by my original thought, the letter writer is not a mad idiologue but a hurt social misfit and I just didn't feel good about making a big deal about it.
Sorry Dan, I thought you had come to the HIV+ theory because of the quote plagiarized.
AND The Eagle is on the list (as pointed out to me at The Eagle) listed as The Seattle Eagle (apparently I was stoned the first time I read it).
So yeah, I did go to support The Eagle but I still would have felt a little bad about rubbing salt in this dudes already obviously gaping wounds by being part of the crawl.
I stand by my original thought, the letter writer is not a mad idiologue but a hurt social misfit and I just didn't feel good about making a big deal about it.
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