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City "Make Your Voice Heard"?
Posted by Erica C. Barnett on Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Saying that the citizens haven't had a say on the viaduct replacement options is like saying the city council just needs more time to decide if strip clubs are a menace... or that we should have a sixth monorail vote... or that maybe we should build light rail, but only if people decide they wouldn't rather have buses instead. Enough polling, already! We already voted down the tunnel and elevated viaduct replacement options... Isn't that enough of a message? It's time for our leaders to lead, and for the endless temperature-taking to end.
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ECB - WTF!?!
Here we almost get our Sixth Monorail vote to Build The Damn Thing Already, complete with 40 to 100 story mixed-income residential apartment buildings near the stations, and you tell everyone?
It was supposed to be a surprise!
Here we almost get our Sixth Monorail vote to Build The Damn Thing Already, complete with 40 to 100 story mixed-income residential apartment buildings near the stations, and you tell everyone?
It was supposed to be a surprise!
2
Nice one, Erica! But try to be more subtle next time. This is a little too blatant (and false, of course).
3
I wish our politicos weren't too chickenshit of pissing someone off to make a goddamn decision already. What is wrong with them? Didn't anyone tell them BEFORE they got into politics that it is impossible to make everyone happy all of the time?
4
so in that vote on the viaduct what option got a majority of the vote?
and was the money coming from the people who voted?
If one option won, and if it had funding, that should settle the matter.
and was the money coming from the people who voted?
If one option won, and if it had funding, that should settle the matter.
5
Gee ECB - how about we have one more vote with S/T, Viaduct and Tunnel. The one that gets the most votes wins.
Or we could have playoffs - S/T against Viaduct and Tunnel against Monorail. Then the winners face off.
All indications from polling after the vote showed that a viaduct was the most popular of the choices.
Why not ECB? Winner take all. Chicken?
Or we could have playoffs - S/T against Viaduct and Tunnel against Monorail. Then the winners face off.
All indications from polling after the vote showed that a viaduct was the most popular of the choices.
Why not ECB? Winner take all. Chicken?
6
Erica,
I agree. Isn't the mayor and some city council members up for re-election in 2009? What worries me is that no work (elevated, surface, whatever) will start until after the elections. Would anyone seeking re-election risk that kind of traffic snarl? I wish I was Swiss sometimes.
I agree. Isn't the mayor and some city council members up for re-election in 2009? What worries me is that no work (elevated, surface, whatever) will start until after the elections. Would anyone seeking re-election risk that kind of traffic snarl? I wish I was Swiss sometimes.
7
the tunnel option is ONLY $200 million more than surface/transit? that's a giant load of WSDOT BS.
and the surface/transit option they've settled on, turning western into a 1-way racetrack, is fucking retarded.
just put cary moon in charge of this & do what she says, gregoire.
and the surface/transit option they've settled on, turning western into a 1-way racetrack, is fucking retarded.
just put cary moon in charge of this & do what she says, gregoire.
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I think it says $1.2 million more, @7.
But everyone knows that's a lowball estimate for a tunnel "hybrid" - more likely it would run $2 to $2.4 million more in actual practice.
But everyone knows that's a lowball estimate for a tunnel "hybrid" - more likely it would run $2 to $2.4 million more in actual practice.
11
It is time for them to flatten the viaduct, hell, get rid of the Aurora bridge while they're at it! Next no more high rise buildings, no more townhouses, no more condos. The only way to have more affordable housing is to go anti-density and make Seattle in the short term an un-attractive pain in the ass place to live. When half the people move on to places like LA, rents and housing prices will drop to where they should be. Density just feeds the system and creates more homeless.
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Nothing "won" the advisory vote because all options were voted down as equally stinky. And surface wasn't even on it.
So all we got was a measure of equal rejection, which advises nothing and means nothing. Characterizing this as support for surface is, uh, well, SLOG would chew into any politician declaring this for something SLOG opposed which makes it slightly hpocritical for SLOG to make this argument for something they support.
So all we got was a measure of equal rejection, which advises nothing and means nothing. Characterizing this as support for surface is, uh, well, SLOG would chew into any politician declaring this for something SLOG opposed which makes it slightly hpocritical for SLOG to make this argument for something they support.
15
The issue should be decided by ECB, Mayor Nickels, Tim Ceis, Tom Weeks, Joel Horn, and Carrie Moon in a steel-cage deathmatch.
That way we all win.
That way we all win.
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