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News & ArtsThursday, December 18, 2008
Politics Meanwhile in Minnesota
Posted by Dan Savage on Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:42 PM
GOP incumbent Norm Coleman's lead over Dem Al Franken is down to two measly votes.
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Whoo-hoo! My home state may have re-elected that idiot Michele Bachmann, but maybe we can do it right this time!
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On other news Sen. Levin of MI has issued a report saying Rumsfeld should be prosecuted for torture.
Democrats should be all over this, telling the public they are for Rule of Law, personal responsiblity, and against misuse of power, and against the weakening of America abroad, through lowering our ideals and image, or though pursuing ineffective interrogation thru torture, which doesn't even work.
They NEVER go on offense and NEVER define the other side. All over MSNBC today the GOP guys are going "well if you knew American lives were at stake wouldn't you say torture was okay?" and there is utter dearth of Democrat officials saying "since you know American lives will be at stake, if you puruse ineffective torture which we know doesn't work, except to help al queda, would you do what you know makes Americans die?"
Sadly, Obama has always sort of hinted he will overlook all this torture stuff....... I hope he tells Holder to go after these guys.
Democrats should be all over this, telling the public they are for Rule of Law, personal responsiblity, and against misuse of power, and against the weakening of America abroad, through lowering our ideals and image, or though pursuing ineffective interrogation thru torture, which doesn't even work.
They NEVER go on offense and NEVER define the other side. All over MSNBC today the GOP guys are going "well if you knew American lives were at stake wouldn't you say torture was okay?" and there is utter dearth of Democrat officials saying "since you know American lives will be at stake, if you puruse ineffective torture which we know doesn't work, except to help al queda, would you do what you know makes Americans die?"
Sadly, Obama has always sort of hinted he will overlook all this torture stuff....... I hope he tells Holder to go after these guys.
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OMFG - I agree w/PC.
Now that the New York War Apologists - oops I mean Times - had an editorial to that effect, dare we hope that this could be the new emerging conventional corporate wisdom?
Now that the New York War Apologists - oops I mean Times - had an editorial to that effect, dare we hope that this could be the new emerging conventional corporate wisdom?
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To 5,
I regret to inform you that defensiveness and inability to focus effort is an inherent trait of liberalism. Conservatism is focused on the past and merely needs to borrow old ideas. Liberalism has infinite variety and potential direction, like a wave traveling unidirectionally down a tube that reaches a pool. The wave bends to conform to the transition, traveling in every possible direction.
Effort toward a liberal agenda battles against the unknown, and everybody has nuanced biases about the unknown. The past however can be clung to, to be repeated precisely.
If unknown and untested territory is your fear, you cling to the simple ideals of the past.
I regret to inform you that defensiveness and inability to focus effort is an inherent trait of liberalism. Conservatism is focused on the past and merely needs to borrow old ideas. Liberalism has infinite variety and potential direction, like a wave traveling unidirectionally down a tube that reaches a pool. The wave bends to conform to the transition, traveling in every possible direction.
Effort toward a liberal agenda battles against the unknown, and everybody has nuanced biases about the unknown. The past however can be clung to, to be repeated precisely.
If unknown and untested territory is your fear, you cling to the simple ideals of the past.
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Nate Silver has some interesting -- and possibly incredibly prescient -- analysis of the MN race.
Silver is the guy who almost exactly called the Presidential outcome, and a few weeks ago, after much number crunching predicted Franken will win by 27 votes !?! (though he does caution that that prediction is so close as to be entirely within the realm of error).
Also check out his histograms for both the Presidential & overall Senate races. He ran 1000's of simulated elections, and came up with some amazingly-accurate results.
Silver is the guy who almost exactly called the Presidential outcome, and a few weeks ago, after much number crunching predicted Franken will win by 27 votes !?! (though he does caution that that prediction is so close as to be entirely within the realm of error).
Also check out his histograms for both the Presidential & overall Senate races. He ran 1000's of simulated elections, and came up with some amazingly-accurate results.
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