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Tuesday, December 9, 2008

Censored at Brigham Young University

Posted by Dan Savage on Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:00 AM

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One of the BYU students whose photo was removed from a student art show by the Mormon university's censorious homophobes had this to say about why he participated in the project—and why he, as a BYU student, can't speak out publicly. (He may or may not be one of the students in the photos above.)

I am one of the eight BYU students that was photographed for this project. I'd love to talk to Dan Savage and give my story, but I could be kicked out of BYU for "advocating" homosexuality. As a senior, it would be bad to be kicked out and it makes little sense to transfer.

Some have asked why a gay man would attend BYU in the first place since it is one of the top 10 most discriminatory schools towards gays according to the Princeton review. I went to BYU because I didn't want to be gay and I thought BYU could make me straight. After going through BYU's "gender affirmative therapy" and other experiences (like an LDS mission) I found that I was still gay. I realized that it wasn't going away, and after a lot of soul searching, I came to accept my sexual orientation for what it was.

My life before this acceptance was hell. I participated in Michael's photography project because I thought his project could reach out to others who were struggling to accept their orientation. I felt it sent the message that A. It's ok to acknowledge/accept the fact that you are gay and B. There are people at BYU who will support you. My participation in the project was safe because school policy states, "One's stated same-gender attraction is not an Honor Code issue."

For the record, this project had the complete support of BYU's art department. Several BYU faculty members fought to keep the show up, and expressed disappointment when the administration took it down. I am proud to have participated in the project and hope that others at BYU struggling to accept themselves can find the peace that I found.

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1
And now the link to the photographs is a dead end.
Posted by Michael in DC on December 9, 2008 at 11:15 AM
2
...they both look pretty queer
Posted by I don't know, but... on December 9, 2008 at 11:20 AM
3
it's all in the eyebrows.
Posted by Judith on December 9, 2008 at 11:24 AM
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I wish I "found peace" by the time I was in my early twenties. Cheers, queers.

Posted by CommonKnowledge on December 9, 2008 at 11:24 AM
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When are religious parents going to realize that their beliefs against homosexuality are going to do more harm to their child than "moral" good?

If you have a gay child, you're not going to know you do, or you'll be in denial. If you raise your child to think that this harmless, very much normal preference is "sick" or "wrong," that child is going to grow up accordingly. They will make life-changing decisions around it. "I'm going to this school instead of that one, because I want to be straight." "I'm going to marry this woman I don't want to show you all I'm straight, and to convince myself that I am"—etc.

So..who is that helping? Wouldn't you rather raise your children to accept everyone for who they are? Your morals aren't going down the drain. You don't have to sacrifice all of your beliefs. You can choose your model:

A ) Raise your kid to grow bigoted against themselves, or against another. If you do have a homosexual child, they'll most likely grow up and break free of your belief against them, which will break down all of the beliefs you gave them. They could very well turn atheist, I mean, what's the use of praying to a God if you've been taught you're an abomination to his name? And since this child has been so oppressed all these years, when they do come out, they could very well take a drive to super-sex city.

B) Raise your children to respect everyone. True diversity doesn't come in colors, political preference or sexuality. Your child can come out with all you've taught them, and you can love them for who they are. They could grow up just like you, only instead of marrying someone of the opposite sex, they'll marry someone of the same sex.

If you choose A, it's a no-win situation. You're setting your gay child up for a world of pain, or you're setting your straight child up for a world of hate.

They're sick of hearing us complain, they're sick of hearing us scream that we're gay. Well we're here and we're sick of being treated like shit. This wouldn't be a big issue if you wouldn't make it such a big issue. We'll stop cramming our "lifestyle" down your throats when you stop flushing it down the toilet.
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Posted by Mr. Poe on December 9, 2008 at 11:30 AM
6
that is heart breaking.
Posted by JessicaBessica on December 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM
7
Cheers.
Posted by clearlyhere on December 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM
8
that is heart breaking.

Every element of this story is just absolutely depressing. This student's story is the arsenic-laced cherry on top.
Posted by kitschnsync on December 9, 2008 at 11:35 AM
9
Think he wears the magical undergarments?
Posted by sfddad on December 9, 2008 at 11:40 AM
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#9 - Ref: Sweetie Pie and Sugar Pie

you bet they wear 'em - the slinky rayon version, pinked from washing with a red shirt - and taken off from the shoulder to the cock in a strip tease that would heat up any queen ... maybe that is the magic?

mocking Cardinals and Bishops and all the costumes which are right out of Halloween seems to work better for me - as far as mocking someones drawers.

Lapsed Catholics, what do Bishops wear under all that garb? And the Pope, God, talk about underwear, handmade silk sewn by nuns in free work prisons??

I NEED to know ...
Posted by Nephi Apostate on December 9, 2008 at 12:01 PM
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@9 - lordy, you're pathetic. It's relatively rare that something heartfelt and sincere appears on slog, I'll grant you, but that's a sorry excuse. You apparently are such a simpleton that you can't see a human being here, with his struggles. No, it's just something that provides you the opportunity to score! That's what the Internet is, after all!

"Hey, another mormon, I can say 'magic underpants' and people will laugh! Other people say, 'magic underpants' and people laugh -- I can get me some of that!"
Posted by slog sucks on December 9, 2008 at 12:12 PM
12
Bringham Young LOVED the cock!
Posted by Urgutha Forka on December 9, 2008 at 12:13 PM
13
No, y'all, that is courage! Good for, my friend!
Posted by Timothy on December 9, 2008 at 12:13 PM
14
@Poe: Well said and totally spot on.
Posted by Whiny liberal on December 9, 2008 at 12:20 PM
15
Looks like #11 has his magic undies in a bunch.
Posted by magical snowflakes on December 9, 2008 at 12:24 PM
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@11: you said it twice. I laughed both times. You've succumbed to it, too. 11 ftw.
Posted by Al on December 9, 2008 at 12:30 PM
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@15 - #11 has no up-close, personal acquaintance with the magic undies.
Posted by slog sucks on December 9, 2008 at 12:32 PM
18
Mandatory gay buttfucking for all Mormons NOW!!!!
Posted by Buttfuck All Mormons on December 9, 2008 at 12:44 PM
19
Back to the actual story.

Thank you Mr. Poe for caring. I think the guy who did the project had to take down his blog because he didn't want to be expelled from BYU for advocating homosexuality. What a tough position to be in.
Posted by clearlyhere on December 9, 2008 at 12:49 PM
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I am proud to have participated in the project and hope that others at BYU struggling to accept themselves can find the peace that I found.
Posted by soooo another project? on December 9, 2008 at 1:15 PM
21
Mr Poe is gay? Seriously?
Posted by blue barberpole on December 9, 2008 at 1:30 PM
22
mr poe is definitely not gay
Posted by not a "slogger" on December 9, 2008 at 1:33 PM
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I hope these BYU students read this post - Thank you for your courage in sharing your story and participating in this art project. You will make a difference
Posted by jackseattle on December 9, 2008 at 1:46 PM
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heart breaking story? quite the opposite. this young man's story is heart warming. he has had a tough time and came through it and is now accepting himself and reaching out to help others by participating in this project in an institutionally hostile environment. what better message to send to others than that, despite the institutional hostility, you are not alone?
Posted by just warming on December 9, 2008 at 2:01 PM
25
Face it, religion is fucked up.
Posted by Vince on December 9, 2008 at 2:07 PM
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I have no sympathy for mormons...young or old, brainwashed or not, queer or straight. Fuck them.
Posted by DENVEROPOLIS on December 9, 2008 at 2:09 PM
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@9 Admit it, sfddad;
what you really are wondering is-
"would the magic underpants work for me?"
That little incontinance problem is getting old, isn't it
Mr POOPYPANTS?!
.
.
(still got your proctologist on speed dial?)
Posted by ? on December 9, 2008 at 2:40 PM
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He's moved his blog is all. His story and photos can be found here:

http://jmichaelwiltbank.blogspot.com/
Posted by Webster on December 9, 2008 at 4:36 PM

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