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News & ArtsMonday, December 8, 2008
News Military Jet Crashes in Residential Neighborhood in San Diego
Posted by David Schmader on Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:02 PM
...and Slog citizen Gitai wonders, "Can we please whip up enough hysteria around this to keep the Blue Angels out of town?"
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Jeezus...it's the middle of winter and people are still carrying on about the Blue Angels?
There are plenty of impractical and potentially dangerous local traditions in cities and communities around the world. We get flying death machines over Lake Washington. Whatever.
There are plenty of impractical and potentially dangerous local traditions in cities and communities around the world. We get flying death machines over Lake Washington. Whatever.
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The better question is how we can work the blue angles into the Slog Commenter calendar for next year's Strangercrombie....
Oh slog you give us delicious ideas for photoshoots!
Oh slog you give us delicious ideas for photoshoots!
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An acquaintance of mine is about a half a mile from the crash site and said there was a huge fireball, with a bunch of houses on fire. Crazy. Apparently the pilot ejected...
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First of all, two people died so I wish people would hold their glee over a military plane going down.
Second, this was a military plane returning to its base at Camp Pendleton. It has no relation to an air show or the Blue Angels. The NW equivalent would be a fighter crashing into a neighborhood on it's way to McChord, Fort Lewis, Bremerton, or Whidbey Island.
Second, this was a military plane returning to its base at Camp Pendleton. It has no relation to an air show or the Blue Angels. The NW equivalent would be a fighter crashing into a neighborhood on it's way to McChord, Fort Lewis, Bremerton, or Whidbey Island.
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Makes sense. After all, having the best pilots in the world fly over Seattle four days a year is roughly equivalent to living next to Miramar 365 days a year.
Also, fuck you Gitai. Go back to whatever Blue Angel-hating land from whence you came.
Also, fuck you Gitai. Go back to whatever Blue Angel-hating land from whence you came.
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I love watching the Blue Angels.
Now, if you want to talk about damage from military jets, I'd be far more worried if I were holding a traditional Islamic wedding, imho.
Now, if you want to talk about damage from military jets, I'd be far more worried if I were holding a traditional Islamic wedding, imho.
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Yes, Gitai. Fuck the dead people or those whose homes are on fire. What about you and the disruption to your summer!!!
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Top 100 priorities for the nascar crowd:
1) Big loud machines
2) Promoting the military
3-99) etc.
100) Other people's safety
1) Big loud machines
2) Promoting the military
3-99) etc.
100) Other people's safety
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@9 Because the Blue Angels have never crashed before. Aside from wasting massive amounts of taxpayer dollars, annoying the fuck out of plenty of us here with the noise and jingoism, it doesn't make a whole lot of fucking sense to have these expensive jets flying around densely populated areas just for the hell of it.
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#7 said it right.
I dislike the Blue Angels as much as you, Gitai, but seriously, fuck you. Idiot.
I dislike the Blue Angels as much as you, Gitai, but seriously, fuck you. Idiot.
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@11 My point is that the fucking things are annoying and dangerous. Yeah, it pisses me off that I have to hear the damn things and that my dog pisses on the carpet when they fly overhead, but one of those tearing a path of destruction down a residential neighborhood here sounds pretty fucking catastrophic.
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my parents live a couple miles from there. they're safe, though. as long as there aren't any tree-trimming trucks around...
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@16 There are plenty of reasons why the Blue Angels suck and the tradition should end. This story has nothing to do with them and is not one of those reasons.
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7: I don't see any "glee" here--the fact that two people are dead only underscores the validity of Gitai's question.
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@7 Great, so during the normal course of activities, flying jets in a straight line over densely populated residential areas is already a dangerous move, so we should welcome pilots attempting incredibly difficult maneuvers over our heads. I can accept the risk for normal military readiness activities, but it seems stupid to accept increased risk for this bullshit entertainment.
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Dear Everyone in Seattle @3
Please speak for yourself.
I fear those machines flying over populated areas, regardless of the skill level and experience of the pilots flying them.
And my heart goes out to the families of the deceased.
Please speak for yourself.
I fear those machines flying over populated areas, regardless of the skill level and experience of the pilots flying them.
And my heart goes out to the families of the deceased.
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I don't really see any difference between the blue angels and soviet-era parades of tanks and missile launchers. Both are meant to show military might and drum up nationalistic fervor and both are a huge waste of money.
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No more commercial planes, either, please. They're eskeery, too. How did we get from paper planes to F-16s anyways?
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10 bucks says this post gets over 60 comments.
3 things that cause uproar on slog:
1) Bacon (and bacon related wear-ables)
2) Bush (the president or superfluous crotch shots jen graves posts as 'art' and charles posts for communism)
3) Blue Angles
I thought we had at least another 3 months without a Blue Angles post.
3 things that cause uproar on slog:
1) Bacon (and bacon related wear-ables)
2) Bush (the president or superfluous crotch shots jen graves posts as 'art' and charles posts for communism)
3) Blue Angles
I thought we had at least another 3 months without a Blue Angles post.
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Is it McCord or McChord? My dad was stationed there and he always spelled it "McCord," but he was a bit dim sometimes.
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"Things that cause uproar on slog"
From NYT-
"Fire officials said the deaths were at a home where two children, a mother and a grandmother were believed to be inside. "
Two innocent people just DIED RANDOMLY AND TRAGICALLY. Either two little girls just lost their mother and grandmother, or one or more little girls just vaporized.
Why is the tragedy, and potential for "uproar" not instantly obvious here?
From NYT-
"Fire officials said the deaths were at a home where two children, a mother and a grandmother were believed to be inside. "
Two innocent people just DIED RANDOMLY AND TRAGICALLY. Either two little girls just lost their mother and grandmother, or one or more little girls just vaporized.
Why is the tragedy, and potential for "uproar" not instantly obvious here?
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@30: I am not talking about the actual story, I am talking about how every damn year people come out of the woodwork on slog to talk about the blue angles, and how they are safe/not safe or loud/not that loud or annoying/fun for families or bad, scary military/great machines doing stunts. It is never-ending.
Any post with the blue angles just gets lots of comments. Yes, that story is tragic, but as you can tell most of the comments on this story are about the blue angels here in Seattle.
Any post with the blue angles just gets lots of comments. Yes, that story is tragic, but as you can tell most of the comments on this story are about the blue angels here in Seattle.
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Oh no! Please don't use the Slog's irresistible superpower to whip up hysteria! My head is still spinning from all the success you had stopping Prop 8 and banning pit bulls and getting rid of all the airhead TV news reporters in Seattle. It's like every day I wake up and Slog hysteria has changed the face of Seattle so I don't recognize it.
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@27 - I hear the reason the jet crashed was the pilot was eating a bacon and cream pie while listening to Bush bailout his comrades on Wall Street.
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@gitai, I never said the Blue Angels hadn't crashed before. What I said is that you're an idiot transplant who's not allowed to have an opinion on Seattle traditions.
Also, that your comparison isn't valid, as #7 pointed out.
Also, that your comparison isn't valid, as #7 pointed out.
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This is Seattle Gitai. Het a petition signed, get a Proposition on the ballot and let's vote on it. I'm noy a fan of noise but I like the Blue Angels. The planes are pretty.
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Doing my part to get this thread to 60 comments (Monique @27).
I've made a tradition of spending Blue Angels weekend in Vancouver. (@3, you don't speak for me.) Their show doesn't impress me and I'd like to still have my hearing intact by the time I turn 50. Going to another country seems like a logical way of saying Fuck You to the jingoism the Blue Angels represent.
Having said that, I'm with the general consensus that the tragedy in San Diego has little to do with the Blue Angels. We will have plenty of opportunities to continue the Slog summer tradition of debating this issue in about 6-7 months. In the meantime there are other topics such as pit bulls and fat people.
I've made a tradition of spending Blue Angels weekend in Vancouver. (@3, you don't speak for me.) Their show doesn't impress me and I'd like to still have my hearing intact by the time I turn 50. Going to another country seems like a logical way of saying Fuck You to the jingoism the Blue Angels represent.
Having said that, I'm with the general consensus that the tragedy in San Diego has little to do with the Blue Angels. We will have plenty of opportunities to continue the Slog summer tradition of debating this issue in about 6-7 months. In the meantime there are other topics such as pit bulls and fat people.
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Like it or not, Seattle's success as a city is entirely due to the aerospace industry. Not as much now, but without then, there is no now. Take a highway in any direction from Seattle if you disagree, and look up.
The Blue Angels come at a predictable time every year. Some enjoy it, some don't. I think its a unique opportunity to drink beer on I-90 in front of cops, but whatever.
If you are unwilling to split the city and head for the hills for one weekend a year, you are a whiny douche, end of story.
The Blue Angels come at a predictable time every year. Some enjoy it, some don't. I think its a unique opportunity to drink beer on I-90 in front of cops, but whatever.
If you are unwilling to split the city and head for the hills for one weekend a year, you are a whiny douche, end of story.
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we should boycott every business that supports the blue angels.
OR
we should boycott every business that opposes the blue angels.
either way - as long as we're intimidating businesses into enforcing our political views.
sweet. i'm drunk with power.
OR
we should boycott every business that opposes the blue angels.
either way - as long as we're intimidating businesses into enforcing our political views.
sweet. i'm drunk with power.
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Hey Elswinger
While it's true that the crash has naught to do with the Blue Angels (they're stationed at NAF El Centro when not on tour), there aren't any jets at Pendleton. That's what Marine Corps Air Station MIRAMAR is for....
While it's true that the crash has naught to do with the Blue Angels (they're stationed at NAF El Centro when not on tour), there aren't any jets at Pendleton. That's what Marine Corps Air Station MIRAMAR is for....
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So many military planes fly over San Diego compared to the 14 or 20 days that the Blue Angels fly over Seattle. I think the odds of Seattle experiencing a crash like that are pretty low.
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Well I'll be damned, I guess the Blue Angles don't spark as much commenting in December as they do in say, June. Oh well. Carry on!
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