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Wednesday, December 3, 2008

Reading Tonight

Posted by on Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:31 AM

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Wally Lamb is reading from his book (a novel about school shootings) at Third Place Books tonight, if you're into that kind of thing.

Also, Harman Leon reads at Elliott Bay Book Company. His book is titled The American Dream: Walking in the Shoes of Carnies, Arms Dealers, Immigrant Dreamers, Pot Farmers, and Christian Believers. I, at least, am intrigued by that title.

And in Olympia, David Ray Griffin, who has written several 9/11 Truth books with titles like Debunking 9/11 Debunking, is reading at the Capitol Theater. I have written about Griffin's books here.

After I posted the event in my reading calendar, I got an angry e-mail from somebody involved with the event:

Attached is the press release I sent in to your publication...You'll notice that what was published [in The Stranger] has nothing to do with what I sent you other than the name of the presenter:

"Noted crackpot theorist David Ray Griffin talks about how September 11th was caused by lizard people wielding experimental laser weapons in an effort to eventually get Barack Obama elected president. Or something."


I'm wondering if you frequently alter press releases in this way so as to slander the advertised event or did you make an exception for this one? I would appreciate it if you remove the current event description and replace it with the one attached or at least give me an explanation as to why you chose to go this route.

I sent this e-mail along:

My job is not to reprint press releases. My job is to describe events for my readers and recommend the good ones. I have read two books by David Ray Griffin. I called it as I see it.

And got this e-mail back:

I understand you have no obligation to print a press release as submitted or at all for that matter. I also realize you have every right to believe what you want regarding 9/11 and to inject your personal opinion into the event calendar recommendations. My problem with what you printed is where you make this assertion: "David Ray Griffin talks about how September 11th was caused by lizard people wielding experimental laser weapons..." Having read two of his books, I'm sure you're well aware that the particular "theory" you attributed to him is in fact a bold-faced lie. I'm not asking you to become a 9/11 truther; just that you maintain some semblance of professionalism.

All I have to say to that is: in the spirit of fairness, I did put "or something" in there; Griffin is not David Icke, after all. Most of what he does is point out what he perceives to be errors in common 9/11 logic. He doesn't really present a theory. But many of his fans do support those theories, and that's why I wrote what I did.

And this is as good a time as any to point out something the 9/11 Truthers haven't really acknowledged yet. If 9/11 was a vast plot to take over America and steal our civil liberties & etc. & etc: How the fuck did Obama win? If you're going to tell me that Obama is the same as Bush, you're totally fucking hopeless. I know he's not the perfect Truth-approved American hero candidate that Ron Paul is, but his plans to leave Iraq, shut down Guantanamo, and stop all kinds of illegal things that the government has been doing is certainly not a step forward for the Evil Twin-Tower-Bombing Conspiracy. The only argument I've seen thus far has to do with Obama pushing toward globalization. This is weak sauce. History has officially rolled over the 9/11 Movement.

 

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Comments and letters seem to be bothering you a lot as of late. Instead of giving them attention with a response, simply copy their e-mail and go sign it up for some "free mp3 downloads" or some hot porn mailing list. If they have their phone number in the signature of the e-mail, be sure to sign it up for some "'cool' free ringtones."
Posted by Cinnamon Society Blues on December 3, 2008 at 10:47 AM
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So where's the line between a joke and a bold faced lie?
Posted by Jen on December 3, 2008 at 10:52 AM
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Man, Paul, you still can't get over the Truthers, can you? Did one of them sleep with your girlfriend/boyfriend? Give it a rest. They're not hurting anyone.
Posted by sleestak on December 3, 2008 at 10:57 AM
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@ Cinnamon Society Blues: I figure comments and letters are fair game for my comments, but I'm honestly not bothered by them. I think posting a comment is a good way to get a conversation started, which is what comments are supposed to be all about. Doing what you suggested to someone's e-mail is just petty. Except for whoever signed me up for the Ayn Rand mailing list. Because that was pretty funny.

Jen @ 2: The line between a joke and a bold faced lie, in this case, is "Or something."
Posted by Paul Constant on December 3, 2008 at 11:01 AM
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No, see, Obama didn't really win! They just want us to *think* that he did so that they can continue their evil plot of world takeover.
Posted by Etc. on December 3, 2008 at 11:05 AM
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Paul, don't listen to these panty-twisters. That listing you wrote was funny. I liked it. That kind of thing is one of the reasons I read the Stranger.
Posted by what on December 3, 2008 at 11:06 AM
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@4

I sign people up for shit ALL the time. Especially people I like.
Posted by Cinnamon Society Blues on December 3, 2008 at 11:07 AM
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I wish Paul Constant would get some enemies with a sense of humor. I don't mind laughing at them instead of with them, but I get tired of only laughing at them.
Posted by elenchos on December 3, 2008 at 11:11 AM
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Paul,

Until all the redacted information is released I am still going to believe in a conspiracy to withhold relevant 9/11 information. The first thing Bush did when he entered office was to stop the regularly timed release of Presidential information--at that point it was time for the archives to receive information relevant to his father's administration (Iran-Contra, The Panama Invasion, Iraq, CIA involvement in Afghanistan) Do you really think that it matters who has the Presidency? The powers are now permanently installed in the Executive and are not going away. Obama, as much as everyone loves him, is not going to relinquish them. Try reading the excellent Frost-Nixon interviews (skip the movie). To slam all the 9/11 Truthers (of which I am not one) by saying that they are even more foolish (which often they are) because Obama won belies your youthful and and naive intelligence. Your notion that history has rolled over the 9/11 truth movement will be cited as often as Dan's mistaken endorsement of the then-and-still llegal invasion/occupation of Iraq.
Posted by mattt davis on December 3, 2008 at 11:16 AM
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I think Paul was right on with the 9/11 shit. I just wish "Harmon" had been spelled correctly.
Posted by Karla on December 3, 2008 at 11:18 AM
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Yeah Paul, try reading the "excellent Frost-Nixon interviews." Those will show you EVERYTHING. XXXXPOSED!!!!!
Posted by matt davis is a stupid fucking idiot on December 3, 2008 at 11:19 AM
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No plane ever hit building 7 yet it totally collapsed... Doesn't this freak anyone else out?!
Posted by Bleh on December 3, 2008 at 11:19 AM
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@9 - Paul wrote a reasonably balanced article on the Truthers a couple of years ago, so he's now the expert on the movement. Even though his original article was mostly fair, he's since decided that it's his mission to mock these people every chance he gets. You know, because HOW DARE THEY think that the Bush administration could have maybe done something bad.
Posted by sleestak on December 3, 2008 at 11:33 AM
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I've met a few of these 9/11 truthers. I'm not saying that the group doesn't have more that its fair share of wingnuts, but most of the folks I have had the opportunity to talk to are normal people who just have questions that they feel should be answered.

Paul's description is funny and it is also a reason I like the Stranger, but it can be dangerous to just lump a group together and label them by their most fringe elements. I also don't think that just because we elected Obama, that all of those questions are suddenly answered or irrelevent.
Posted by Clint on December 3, 2008 at 11:46 AM
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I thought Paul's previous article about the "truth" movement was way too nice. I could almost see a young or uninformed person coming away form the article thinking that there are credible people who've looked into this and think that Bush actually orchestrated 9/11 to justify invading Iraq. While the "truthers" might seem like harmless nutcases, they are potentially detracting from people making legitimate criticisms of Bush and his handlers. Also, the claims of there "truthers" are taken quite seriously in the Islamic world, which I find frightening.
Posted by PJ on December 3, 2008 at 12:12 PM
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@12 -- That was totally idiot Rudy fucking Giuliani's fault. He decided to put the city's Emergency Command Center in WTC 7, for any number of cronyistic, nepotistic, and egotistical reasons. As a result, they needed a backup power system. So, down in the basement, they installed tanks with several thousand gallons of diesel fuel to power the backup generators for a week or two. Right next to some giant switching facility for the phone company that was down there, too, by the way. Burning jet fuel ran down the towers into the concourse and basement levels, spread to WTC 7, and guess what happened? The fuel for the emergency generators went up, too. There were enough reasons to hate Giuliani before that, but what a fucked up fuckup!
Posted by flint on December 3, 2008 at 12:52 PM
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David Ray Griffin's press person has no sense of humor. I think the only thing that could make me want to go to a Truther's reading is the hyperbolic assertion that said Truther believes that Lizardmen Illuminati were behind it or something.
Posted by B Strand on December 3, 2008 at 1:00 PM
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@16, I believe Rudy's reasoning for putting that office there was so that he would have a convenient excuse to bang his mistress, installed in an apartment near there, during office hours. That's the story I heard, at any rate.
Posted by Fnarf on December 3, 2008 at 1:07 PM
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When they show films of Obama on the grassy knoll firing shots at JFK and then flying to the moon on a UFO, will you then believe? Just wondering.
Posted by Vince on December 3, 2008 at 1:14 PM
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If people are upset that Paul makes fun of insane Truthers, they don't have to use the title for themselves. There's a difference between recognizing that the administration suppressed information and acted like weasels about the whole thing, and think that they actually orchestrated the whole thing. You don't do yourself any favors by aligning yourself with idiots and crazies.
Posted by Chris in Tampa on December 3, 2008 at 1:33 PM
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I just knew those Lizard People were in on the plot.
Posted by J.R. on December 3, 2008 at 1:52 PM

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