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News & ArtsSaturday, November 15, 2008
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oh man, it always freaks me out when they're young and otherwise normal looking. the fat middle-aged guys don't bother me in the slightest -- in fact i find them rather amusing -- but when they look like that woman in the first picture, they scare the shit out of me.
7
I love that the guy holding the sign against "sports nuts" and "baby killers" is wearing a Seahawks hat. And just what is a "church gossip"?
8
The picture with the people in the duck is the best. "And if you'll look out on the right side of the Duck, you'll see the crazy religious bigots".
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#7: A church gossip is a busybody, generally an older woman, who gossips about other people in the church. This is generally done in the form of prayer requests, e.g. "Let's pray for Mary Ellen Smith, who isn't here today because she's taken a job at the Lusty Lady."
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"Kiss the Son" sounds kinda gay. Does the Son like it when you bite his bottom lip a little? I'll bet he does. Does the Son want to rub his beard-scruff against your beard-scruff? For sure.
Also: Drunkards, Free Sex, Atheists, Homosexuals? Sign me up!
Also: Drunkards, Free Sex, Atheists, Homosexuals? Sign me up!
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Um, I'm pretty sure we've all heard the bible beaters loud and clear. Proposition 8...passed. Wait, "Sports Nuts", what???
Why don't you and your awesome hat take the day off, Jebediah. You seem a bit confused.
Why don't you and your awesome hat take the day off, Jebediah. You seem a bit confused.
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On D.L. Hughley a CNN-ubiquitous Stranger editor made the nice point that if one's faith leads you to expect the poor fags to end up in hell, isn't that going to be punishment enough? Why would anyone claiming Christianity think we need the added persecution beforehand of diminished civil rights?
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These guys actually remind me of the religious wingnuts who used to protest the huge Halloween celebration in Athens, Ohio at Ohio University. Thousands of college students on the street in costume and a dozen people waving signs saying we're going to hell for some reason or another. Who can keep track, really.
23
I really like the the second picture from the bottom:
"Covetousness is: Idolatry, Materialism... (etc)," and then the retail sign under continues "Cozy Hats".
Good job to everyone who went today. You make us all proud (with exception, of course, of the sideshow nutjobs pictured above).
"Covetousness is: Idolatry, Materialism... (etc)," and then the retail sign under continues "Cozy Hats".
Good job to everyone who went today. You make us all proud (with exception, of course, of the sideshow nutjobs pictured above).
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I saw the "Sports Nuts" guy with his Seahawks hat, what a joker. I asked him about it, pointed out the false idol (the seahawk), and nearly belly laughed at how silly his responses where.
It was definitely reassuring to look up Pike and see thousands of my friends in comparison to the 20 or so of these whack jobs.
It was definitely reassuring to look up Pike and see thousands of my friends in comparison to the 20 or so of these whack jobs.
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It's true that the smug look is aggravating, but seriously, if she wasn't a nutbag, I could be interested in showing her some perversions of my own.
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ran into some of these people well before the march on Broadway. they tried to give me a flyer and I said no thanks and they got angry really fast and condemned me to hell. I said I didn't believe in hell, they further condemned me to it and back and forth a couple times until we parted ways. An entertaining enough interaction except for the fact that they were a bunch of hateful guys in their 20s and seemed possibly 3-6 beers away from a hate crime. hope they went home without stopping at a bar. So angry at me for not taking a flyer! I should note that in no way was I visibly associated with the impending march so if they were pissed at me I can only imagine their later reactions to everyone else. I think in general it's best to ignore such people but couldn't resist getting into it with them a little bit today.
29
Dear Guys kissing in front of the Bible-tard: I love you. I'm not gay, but if I had thought about it, I would have dragged a girl out with me just so I could do it too! Share the love!
30
It seems there is a new sin, one I never heard of before. The "Covetousness Is Idolatory" guy is protesting against:
Materialism. Gluttony. Drunkeness. Free Sex.... and BINGING?!?!
What's that?
Materialism. Gluttony. Drunkeness. Free Sex.... and BINGING?!?!
What's that?
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#13 - For what it's worth, a girl from the communist party went off on that smug girl and made her cry. Then another pro-rights guy argued with her (communist girl) for a long time about her approach to the situation.
33
How is it lost on the guy holding the sign about the sin of "Free Sex" that we gay people are asking for marriage rights? How is that Free Sex? Aren't we indeed asking for the same ball and chain sex that straight people have? Or is gay sex somehow free in that it is not chained to the Bible for validation? And how exactly is same-sex sex free when one often has to sacrifice so much in coming out? (not as much as in the past for many of us, but still not easy to come out to your family anyway for most people) .... so much for Free Sex dude......
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Regarding the very last photo:
I like to think that Sinnerman is just one dude, like Mr. Jonathan Sinnerman in accounting. "You're in big trouble with God, Sinnerman. He'd like to see you in his office."
I like to think that Sinnerman is just one dude, like Mr. Jonathan Sinnerman in accounting. "You're in big trouble with God, Sinnerman. He'd like to see you in his office."
37
This might be encouraging... or not:
While I was down there I actively tracked down these people (I saw everyone but the "Jesus Saves From Hell" guy), and made it my mission to talk to them calmly and logically about Prop 8, and was able to convince EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM that Prop 8 was a bad, unnecessary thing. I'm not kidding.
How did I succeed at this when the hundreds of clearly correct folks shouting intelligent, witty, succinct refutations to their signs only seemed to exacerbate the divide?
To begin with, by taking a few seconds to gain their trust by paying lip service to their religious intentions. Personally, I am a pretty devout atheist, but I also know that the quickest way to build consensus is to acknowledge what people you don't agree with are TRYING to do - in this case, keep "sinners" from going to hell. And the crowd was convinced they were there in support of Prop 8, so everyone ended up talking "past" one another. Which is also, perhaps, why I ended up sounding like the "good cop".
Trying to convince someone to relinquish their entire life's religion during the course of a 90 second encounter seemed a rather daunting goal, so I left that part alone and focused on using their beliefs as leverage to demonstrate why church and state should be separate...
Most people seemed well-aware that not EVERYTHING suggested by the Bible ought to be a law - you know, the whole "capital punishment for working on Saturday, divorcing, or being a non-virgin bride" (not to mention all the other ridiculous "abominations" out there).
It was also useful to state that (their) God deliberately gives us free choice to do good or evil, and that if someone chooses to engage in these (so-called) "moral abominations", it's up to God to judge - and we needn't write redundant laws to legislate these biblical moral codes. People should be able to choose "good" over "evil" to please God, rather than to avoid going to jail.
NOTE: The kind of folks who wave these kinds of signs also seem to be against anything that implies that the state is trying to "play God", so that's a good angle to use.
But probably the main reason it was so easy to convince these people was that I don't think they actually PRO-Prop 8 in the first place - I didn't see a single sign that specifically stated this - and after some discussion it seemed clear that while these people WERE morally against homosexuality, they COULD understand why their beliefs shouldn't be legislated. A small victory, to be sure, but it made me feel good to be able to successfully convey at least THAT small point.
In fact, after reaching some consensus, I even managed to explain to some that, as well-intentioned as their intent to help "save sinners" en masse might be, the fact that they chose to do it at that particular place at that particular time might make it seem like they were supporting issue the majority of folks there were protesting, and that might be why they were getting so much and such emotional retaliation.
[Though, truth be told, I think some of them kind of got off on the "persecution" aspect of it, especially given that each of them ended up with 3-4 police officers surrounding and protecting them ...]
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While I was down there I actively tracked down these people (I saw everyone but the "Jesus Saves From Hell" guy), and made it my mission to talk to them calmly and logically about Prop 8, and was able to convince EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM that Prop 8 was a bad, unnecessary thing. I'm not kidding.
How did I succeed at this when the hundreds of clearly correct folks shouting intelligent, witty, succinct refutations to their signs only seemed to exacerbate the divide?
To begin with, by taking a few seconds to gain their trust by paying lip service to their religious intentions. Personally, I am a pretty devout atheist, but I also know that the quickest way to build consensus is to acknowledge what people you don't agree with are TRYING to do - in this case, keep "sinners" from going to hell. And the crowd was convinced they were there in support of Prop 8, so everyone ended up talking "past" one another. Which is also, perhaps, why I ended up sounding like the "good cop".
Trying to convince someone to relinquish their entire life's religion during the course of a 90 second encounter seemed a rather daunting goal, so I left that part alone and focused on using their beliefs as leverage to demonstrate why church and state should be separate...
Most people seemed well-aware that not EVERYTHING suggested by the Bible ought to be a law - you know, the whole "capital punishment for working on Saturday, divorcing, or being a non-virgin bride" (not to mention all the other ridiculous "abominations" out there).
It was also useful to state that (their) God deliberately gives us free choice to do good or evil, and that if someone chooses to engage in these (so-called) "moral abominations", it's up to God to judge - and we needn't write redundant laws to legislate these biblical moral codes. People should be able to choose "good" over "evil" to please God, rather than to avoid going to jail.
NOTE: The kind of folks who wave these kinds of signs also seem to be against anything that implies that the state is trying to "play God", so that's a good angle to use.
But probably the main reason it was so easy to convince these people was that I don't think they actually PRO-Prop 8 in the first place - I didn't see a single sign that specifically stated this - and after some discussion it seemed clear that while these people WERE morally against homosexuality, they COULD understand why their beliefs shouldn't be legislated. A small victory, to be sure, but it made me feel good to be able to successfully convey at least THAT small point.
In fact, after reaching some consensus, I even managed to explain to some that, as well-intentioned as their intent to help "save sinners" en masse might be, the fact that they chose to do it at that particular place at that particular time might make it seem like they were supporting issue the majority of folks there were protesting, and that might be why they were getting so much and such emotional retaliation.
[Though, truth be told, I think some of them kind of got off on the "persecution" aspect of it, especially given that each of them ended up with 3-4 police officers surrounding and protecting them ...]
38
These people don't deserve any of our attention and energy. I say, delete all their photos and instead just say there were a few religious loonies at the march, nothing more. Why make their signs 'bigger' by putting them up here? We already know how crazy they are.
39
Being a christian these people sicken me, I believe that they have the right to believe what they do but they do not have the right to tell others what they should believe. There is a guy who goes onto the Western campus who has the big signs and such, and he more or less harasses anyone who crosses close enough to him with his believes (which in my opinion are skewed). I'm not saying these people are that confrontational but the rhetoric on the signs seems to imply an aggressive nature. It's easy to pull little bits of scripture out of context to condemn anything, in fact the book of Leviticus is all law and lists all the things that are abominations, including coming in contact with a woman who is on her period, cutting your hair around your temple, permanently marking yourself, and so on. These laws were cast out by Jesus in his sermons and teachings, so if you're a christian and a true follower of Christ these laws are not to be considered hell worthy. I always look to one passage in particular to express the tint of my beliefs:
Micah 6:8
He has told you, O man, what is good;
And what does the LORD require of you
But to do justice, to love kindness,
And to walk humbly with your God?
(the lord doesn't require 'not being gay')
Do justice, love kindness and walk humbly? sounds like a good plan.
Micah 6:8
He has told you, O man, what is good;
And what does the LORD require of you
But to do justice, to love kindness,
And to walk humbly with your God?
(the lord doesn't require 'not being gay')
Do justice, love kindness and walk humbly? sounds like a good plan.
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Oh, c'mon! These people had to be a joke. Performance art? Improv anywhere? Nobody is that insane and still able to function day-to-day in society enough to hold down a job so they can buy hats and signs. I think it was brilliant. Clearly, they were painting Jeezuscists in general as raving crazies.
Also, what #40 said.
Also, what #40 said.
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Panoramic photo from the event:
http://www.bohonus.com/temp/prop8pano.jp…
Interactive versions here on VRSeattle.com:
http://www.vrseattle.com/pages/browse.ph…
http://www.bohonus.com/temp/prop8pano.jp…
Interactive versions here on VRSeattle.com:
http://www.vrseattle.com/pages/browse.ph…
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"almost got hit on the head with a Bible"
That reminded me of a line by Woody Allen. He said that he always carries a bullet in his lapel pocket because one day somebody threw a Bible at him and it bounced off of the bullet and saved his life.
That reminded me of a line by Woody Allen. He said that he always carries a bullet in his lapel pocket because one day somebody threw a Bible at him and it bounced off of the bullet and saved his life.
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Whats really funny is that if these people didnt have gays and lesbians to pick on they'd turn on eachother...
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the no homo guy has the same facial expression as snl's church lady, pursed lips and all. get a fucking life. i know what he really wants when he protests so much.
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These churchies need some serious editorial help. It took me a minute just to read each poster. Get with the 21st century. Speak in Slogans. The facebook generation don't have time for all those words. Their too busy texting friends, learning about the world, and voting for equality.
History is on our side, and we are better looking.
History is on our side, and we are better looking.
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We had a good turnout in Milwaukee too. There were thugs protesting us - big guys in their puffy badass jackets. This morning I learned how to do this.
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Is anyone familiar with Derek Jarmen's movies? "Wittgenstein?"
52
i must say, this is one of the funnier comment threads i've read in a while. ariel was particularly good.
for my part, i'm with the commenters who would bone the girl in picture one. i like to think her sign reads 'repent. pervert', rather than 'repent pervert', which is good advice i'd say.
for my part, i'm with the commenters who would bone the girl in picture one. i like to think her sign reads 'repent. pervert', rather than 'repent pervert', which is good advice i'd say.
53
It did inspire my favorite chant of the day: "BRING THE RAPTURE NOW!!!" and get these folks out of here. Close second: "What do we want! YOU TO SHUT UP! When do we want it? NOOOOW!"
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I consider those signs a great to-do list. If I could find a way of binging on church gossip, I would be almost done.
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@52, I tthink she was trying for "repent, pervert."
But the way it is is pretty great. i would tell her, "ok, you do the repenting and i'll do the perverting." Then I'd ask her to come back to my place. I'd show her how it really is ok to come out rather than hate yourself. Then I'd fuck her. It would be grand.
But the way it is is pretty great. i would tell her, "ok, you do the repenting and i'll do the perverting." Then I'd ask her to come back to my place. I'd show her how it really is ok to come out rather than hate yourself. Then I'd fuck her. It would be grand.
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Anyone who had the strength to keep on walking and not scream in their face deserves a gold medal. Hardest thing in the world is being confronted with people who believe you don't deserve to live and rising above the so obvious urge to kick them in the balls.
I doubt I would have been so strong.
Actually, ordinary Christian nuts I can (probably) handle. I don't know what I'd do if Westboro Baptist Church showed up anywhere in my 50 mile radius.
I doubt I would have been so strong.
Actually, ordinary Christian nuts I can (probably) handle. I don't know what I'd do if Westboro Baptist Church showed up anywhere in my 50 mile radius.
58
My mother & grandmother always claimed the only people who give a crap about who's screwing who are the losers who are jealous they aren't getting any....which would sort of explain most the bible-thumpers which turned out to counter-protest.
59
Also, I think "Repent Pervert" hate-fuck girl is only helping to hold the sign. It looks like it really belongs to the older person hiding behind it. Possibly a mother or grandmother. She might not be a totally willing participant, since ya know come Monday morning her school friends are going to laugh their asses off at her. At least, when I was in high-school that's what we'd have done...and I didn't even go to a very liberal, pro-GLBTQ school, but we'd still rag on the Jeebus Freak kids and make fun of them.
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Third photo down: Guy looks as if he once regrettably sucked a cock and cannot forgive himself - wears gloves when he masturbates. Cop over right shoulder has enigmatic smile and bus in background has an advert for "OMO" - harmonic convergence or fairy tale? - your call.
61
I'm surprised that their heads didn't explode from being in such close proximity to all the smoldering hotness of Kelly O. At the very least, I'm sure they felt scandalized for the rest of the day. Neuters.
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It's obvious these people use the same signs for every protest, and that's why the lists of sins needs to be all-inclusive -- that way they can wave the same sign at the gay rights march that they do after a Seahawks game. Sports-nuts and homos, repent.
All neatly typed, just like God typed the bible. In comic-sans.
All neatly typed, just like God typed the bible. In comic-sans.
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@ 34 = <3 !!
Up here in Rochester, NY, we had one lone counter-protester:
http://www.linsner.com/images/savemarria…
(Photo courtesy of Flickr user artoflife79.)
His sign said something about saving marriage..but his handwriting was so bad that it looked like it said "Save Mama". (I heard many cute gay boys around me going, "What? Save MAMA?!?" "You can tell he's not gay! His handwriting SUCKS!") His sign was on white posterboard, & as the rain got heavier, the sign melted. I saw it fall on top of his head. The guy was already obviously discouraged, & when his sign went, he balled it up, shrugged, & walked away into the rain. May the same happen to the whole kit & caboodle of homophobia.
They say we only had dozens! There was about 150 of us:
http://www.rnews.com/Story_2004.cfm?ID=6…
Up here in Rochester, NY, we had one lone counter-protester:
http://www.linsner.com/images/savemarria…
(Photo courtesy of Flickr user artoflife79.)
His sign said something about saving marriage..but his handwriting was so bad that it looked like it said "Save Mama". (I heard many cute gay boys around me going, "What? Save MAMA?!?" "You can tell he's not gay! His handwriting SUCKS!") His sign was on white posterboard, & as the rain got heavier, the sign melted. I saw it fall on top of his head. The guy was already obviously discouraged, & when his sign went, he balled it up, shrugged, & walked away into the rain. May the same happen to the whole kit & caboodle of homophobia.
They say we only had dozens! There was about 150 of us:
http://www.rnews.com/Story_2004.cfm?ID=6…
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Not to invoke the devil here or anything, but where's Ken Hutcherson in all of this? I find it hard to believe that he's keeping his vile mouth shut with all of this going on. Has he been heard of?
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the last two pictures give me the impression that the cop is smiling at the two men kissing in front of the sports nuts - baby killers guy. i hope so.
69
And in the 7th pic down, the "Church Gossips" person conveniently has the word "EW" over the left shoulder.....
heh heh heh
heh heh heh
70
The guy with arms-crossed on the right of the "normal looking" sign holding chick in the first pic is my best gay!
Hi, Mikey! Did you repent this morning?
BWAHAHAHAHA!
Hi, Mikey! Did you repent this morning?
BWAHAHAHAHA!
71
Actually these people are out in front of Westlake Center almost every weekend. One week recently Ask Me Why You Deserve Hell Guy in #6 took it upon himself to address individuals in his vicinity whether they actually acknowledged his existence or not. As I walked past desperately trying to ignore him he shouted "And this guy..." (pointing at me) "you think your good looks will get you into Heaven?" Obviously there's no accounting for taste but I thought what a complete closet case...
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R.e. the officer of the law, he was, if I recognize him aright, the awfully spicy young cop w/skull and crossbones socks who was telegraphing supportive straight guy: smiling happily at the crowd and yet mildly flirtatious with the girls (or at least this girl).
73
Well, as for the whole "christianity" trip so-called, i think the buddhist concept of karma is somewhat more relevant here - to wit that "hatred of any kind is actually self-hatred".
These pictured make that observation fairly unavoidable.
And legialatively, i'm up on the whole first amendment thing you guys have down there, but up here in Canada we have "hate speech" laws premised on the notion that spewing irrational hatred of an identifiable group is not the kind of noble undertaking that deserves the protection of the state - not really free speech at all - controversial perhaps, but arguable. Most European countries have them too, Oliver Wendell Holmes bit about yelling 'fire' in a crowded theatre being the premise.
These pictured make that observation fairly unavoidable.
And legialatively, i'm up on the whole first amendment thing you guys have down there, but up here in Canada we have "hate speech" laws premised on the notion that spewing irrational hatred of an identifiable group is not the kind of noble undertaking that deserves the protection of the state - not really free speech at all - controversial perhaps, but arguable. Most European countries have them too, Oliver Wendell Holmes bit about yelling 'fire' in a crowded theatre being the premise.
74
@71: I don't live in Seattle, but if I did I think I might actually enjoy going down there on one of my sassier days and soliciting his appraisal. Kind of like getting measured for a suit, but instead he tells me which circle of hell would be best for me.
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@59: There was someone else helping Repent Pervert girl hold up the sign but it was another young girl about the same age. I was the dude in the green jacket standing behind her off to the right with crossed arms. I can cofirm what the others said that there was a girl from the protester crowd who got all up in her face hardcore and her expression changed 180 from the smug smirk to pretty much scared shitless.
Oh and @ Miss Maia no I did not repent. I am still a heathen homosexual pervert. Guess the sign didn't work.
Oh and @ Miss Maia no I did not repent. I am still a heathen homosexual pervert. Guess the sign didn't work.
76
I love how the "no homo" guy is standing in front of the Homo 4 News van.
Correct response to these people: Judge not muthafuckas!
77
OMG...are they suggesting that Barney, the dog that humped my leg when I was a ten years old went to hell?
79
I believe it was George Carlin who said: "Isn't it mildly ironic that the people who are opposed to the right of choice on abortion and orientation are the kinds of people you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place."
80
It's always fun to poke fun at the religiously impaired, their shadowy undercurrent notwithstanding. We all know they are the fringe, and should be dismissed as such when it comes to discourse with the more real, formidable factions (i.e. the Mormon Church). Still, they give us pause because they are so disturbing. Two things that have come out of all of this are Wanda Sykes: "You know, I don't really talk about my sexual orientation. I didn't feel like I had to. I was just living my life, not necessarily in the closet, but I was living my life, . . . But that's the way people should be able to live their lives." and Don Savage: "If goddamned McDonald's had organized and paid for Prop 8, we'd be marching on goddamned McDonald's."
They need to fry.
They need to fry.
81
I remember poking fun at these types even back in junior high in the small town I'm from.
"Do you believe in god?"
No.
"Or Jesus????"
Not as such, no.
"Then you're going to hell!!!"
Does that mean I get to get away from you?
"[insert wide eyed stare here]"
Or as Mark Twain put it: "Heaven for the weather, Hell for the company."
"Do you believe in god?"
No.
"Or Jesus????"
Not as such, no.
"Then you're going to hell!!!"
Does that mean I get to get away from you?
"[insert wide eyed stare here]"
Or as Mark Twain put it: "Heaven for the weather, Hell for the company."
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@32 with "binging" - I laughed so hard I almost passed out.
@37 - I think you hit it right on the head with the persecution complex thing. The blessed are you when people persecute you because of me thing is in the Bible. I think these people feel that they need to do this to reassure themselves that they are heros on God's one true path, that they are really safe and secure with God if with no one else.
Thanks for taking the trouble to type out what you did about the angles you used to get through to most of them.
@37 - I think you hit it right on the head with the persecution complex thing. The blessed are you when people persecute you because of me thing is in the Bible. I think these people feel that they need to do this to reassure themselves that they are heros on God's one true path, that they are really safe and secure with God if with no one else.
Thanks for taking the trouble to type out what you did about the angles you used to get through to most of them.
84
@39:
What about Matthew 5:17-19? Christians seem to forget that Jesus (Yeshua) was a Jewish rabbi. Paul et al. cast out the Law of the Torah, not Jesus.
Christians getting al upset about homosexuality because it is seemingly condemned in the Old Testament (Torah - Law & Covenant!) but working on Saturday, divorcing and not taking a ritual bath after their period (women only...) don't know what makes a Christian a Christian.
What about Matthew 5:17-19? Christians seem to forget that Jesus (Yeshua) was a Jewish rabbi. Paul et al. cast out the Law of the Torah, not Jesus.
Christians getting al upset about homosexuality because it is seemingly condemned in the Old Testament (Torah - Law & Covenant!) but working on Saturday, divorcing and not taking a ritual bath after their period (women only...) don't know what makes a Christian a Christian.
85
Those girls look like the ones who go to a middle school near where I live now (red state). You know, the ones that take the virginity pledge but get the nickname "blow job queen" by the age of 12. "Bible Heels" they're called. Bible Heels is a close cousin to Hooker Heels but self-righteous and hypocritical. You know the girls I'm talking about, the ones who slut-shame girls who go on birth control or buy condoms so they can have sex with a boyfriend, while all along the "virgin" has done guy on the football team so she wins homecoming, but it's not "real" sex 'cause it's anal/oral. I think one of the Baldwin brothers coined the term for Sarah Palin.
The girls who think homosexuals are going to burn in hell for doing the same $#!& they do every friday, saturday night.
The girls who think homosexuals are going to burn in hell for doing the same $#!& they do every friday, saturday night.
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idk... i feel sorry for those young girls. they don't know any better. they've been told something all their lives, and not yet had a chance to challenge those beliefs. i'm not sure what they will take away from their experience.
those other older guys seemed a little off as well. i don't mean that to be insulting. i mean, these people have a hard time making friends IRL. the church is a place where they are welcomed. it kind of makes me mad that these folks are likely encouraged to demonstrate by others unwilling to do so.
you rarely see successful, together looking middle-aged men or women protesting these things. and why not? where are they? they know better. i mean, either they really know better, or they know better.
those other older guys seemed a little off as well. i don't mean that to be insulting. i mean, these people have a hard time making friends IRL. the church is a place where they are welcomed. it kind of makes me mad that these folks are likely encouraged to demonstrate by others unwilling to do so.
you rarely see successful, together looking middle-aged men or women protesting these things. and why not? where are they? they know better. i mean, either they really know better, or they know better.
89
Thumbs up for SPD? I feel they are on a winning streak with the obama election craziness and then the protest. Or can someone correct me if I'm wrong?
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Guy in 5th Photo: "EVERYONE! we NEED to start tucking our shirts INTO our jeans! this is big, people. I repeat, TUCK YOUR SHIRT INTO YOUR JEANS! there's no better way to get young people to take you seriously! you MUST respect your 501s. and THEN we can start sending people to hell"
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oh dear. why must you all cuss out those that you disagree with!!! your contradicting what you are telling others to do!! dont say "fuck you, you should love everyone!" thats a total oxymoron. (btw, i am talking to all the people who have posted comments!!!!!!!!! )
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