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Thursday, November 13, 2008

Sometimes You Get the Bare, Sometimes the Bare Get You

Posted by Jonah Spangenthal-Lee on Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:40 PM

The Seattle Parks Department's meeting tonight to talk about these people:

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Nudists! Or, as some of them prefer, "clothing-optional activists" have been lobbying the city for years to sanction nude sunbathing and other clothing-optional events in Seattle's parks and pools.

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Activist Steve Mayo, 44—who says he's "always been kind of a clothing optional guy"—is one of the coordinators of the World Naked Bike Ride and has participated in nude bike rides in Seattle and Vancouver for about a decade. According to Mayo, the city is cracking down on nudity in public parks—which, he says, has been allowed for years—after the Parks Department received complaints about an event last summer.

"The implication is that this is all happening because there was indecent exposure at the World Naked Bike Ride [in June]," Mayo says, adding that no one indecently exposed themselves at the WNBR. "[The city is] trying to deal with cruising in parks, but those aren't the same as the clothing optional people," Mayo says. "If someone in the naked bike ride was going around jacking off or something, take them to jail. But that’s not what happens."

Regardless, the Parks Department says nudity is offensive and disruptive to other park users.

"I’m offended when someone has a child out of control but I don’t ask them to pass laws," Mayo says. "When someone has an offensive odor, do you call the odor police? What is the goal they’re trying to accomplish. [If] it disrupts use of parks by other people, I would be happy if it was a time share thing [the] first Saturday of the month."

The police department has also sent a memo to concerned neighbors, but the department seems pretty damn apathetic about the whole thing. Probably because they've got other shit to do.

From the memo:

Historically, it has been difficult in Seattle to prosecute cases of public nudity. The position of the police department is to take a report upon receiving a complaint, identify the individual involved, and forward the complaint to the city attorney.

"Being naked is not against the law [and] being naked does not constitute indecent exposure," says SPD spokesman Sean Whitcomb. "Indecent exposure has everything to do with being naked and the context which surrounds it. When someone’s riding on the street naked on a bike, usually that’s going to surprise people. But is it going to cause so much affront that they’re going to call us and ask us to hunt down that bicyclist? Probably not."

If you want to fight for your right to display your taint in public parks, tonight's meeting is at 7 p.m. at Parks Department HQ.

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1
Nudists get a lot of shit from prudes. Chill out, people! It's nothing to do with you.
Posted by Greg on November 13, 2008 at 2:44 PM
2

Nudity is one thing.

Ugly flabby white butts are another.

There must be a law against that.
Posted by John Bailo on November 13, 2008 at 2:46 PM
3
When and why is the Parks Department the law unto itself. They have bullied the citizenry enough. Stop it. Just leave the people alone. You never fucking learn. Let's make them run for office.
Posted by Vince on November 13, 2008 at 2:49 PM
4
I would want a provision only for that hot older lady with the white hair. Keep fat old men and their nasty old corncob cocks out of the parks.
Posted by The CHZA on November 13, 2008 at 3:00 PM
5
Adolph Hitler was a committed nudist, wasn't he? To this day there is nude sunbathing all over Germany.
Posted by elenchos on November 13, 2008 at 3:16 PM
6
Who is that guy on the far left of the first shot, and does he ever pass up an opportunity to be naked/scantily clad in public?
Posted by dwight moody on November 13, 2008 at 3:19 PM
7
Listen, I have no problem with people having balls. Some of my friends have balls and I could care less. I don't introduce them as "my friend with balls". But I just don't want to see them in public. It's one thing to have them, a whole other thing to flaunt them in my face. I'm not a ballophobe, I just think they're something that should be kept in the bedroom.
Posted by CourtneySea on November 13, 2008 at 3:21 PM
8
@7-do they have a place in the ballroom at all, in your reckoning?
Posted by colonel mustard on November 13, 2008 at 3:24 PM
9
Why can't they lobby to have one park devoted to them? Dog owners aren't allowed to let their dogs off-leash in regular parks, but the fact that off-leash parks exist makes it much difficult for dog owners to complain.

I suspect at least some of these nudists get off on annoying and offending others, otherwise they would lobby for a single park for themselves, a place the rest of us will know to stay away from if we don't want to see flabby, white ass.
Posted by keshmeshi on November 13, 2008 at 3:26 PM
10
Listen, I have no problem with people having vaginas. Some of my friends have vaginas and I could care less. I don't introduce them as "my friend with vaginas". But I just don't want to see them in public. It's one thing to have them, a whole other thing to flaunt them in my face. I'm not a vaginaphobe, I just think they're something that should be kept in the bedroom.
Posted by "Vagina" is a funny word on November 13, 2008 at 3:29 PM
11
keshmeshi's suggestion is completely reasonable. There are nude beaches in the US that are on public land, why not nude parks?
Posted by Julie in Chicago on November 13, 2008 at 3:32 PM
12
@10: You don't? What is wrong with you?
Posted by Greg on November 13, 2008 at 3:35 PM
13
Before you defend the Seattle nudists as non-sexual innocents, you might want to actually look into what goes on in the local groups. Maybe look at how Shannon Kringen rubbed her bare labia against a man's bare penis in front of children at a nudist event, leader Mark Storey called her actions "fabulous", while leader Howard Williamson banned from the local nudist e-list anyone who questioned this behavior. Maybe look at how how leader Daniel Johnson recruits for nudism at local swingers' events, and vice-versa.
Posted by LookTwice on November 13, 2008 at 3:42 PM
14
@10. Come on now, everyone knows that vaginas are natural and beautiful and part of god's plan. Unlike balls. Balls are a perversion.
Posted by CourtneySea on November 13, 2008 at 3:46 PM
15
Jail these jerks. Its unconstitutional, yeah, but its gross, tacky, gross, icky, and gross.

ESPECIALLY the bicyclists. Think about the seats on a hot sweaty day.

Fucking nudists. and i'm not even a prude! i love sex, bodies, lots of stuff that most of the country finds offensive.

But yeah-fuck sanctioned nudity. Gross fat old baby boomer assholes forcing us to look at their shriveled sunburned sweaty balls all in the name of progress, art, freedom....

Nudity is awesome when its impromptu and illegal.

one question:picture your naked mother bicycling down pike. now tell me you wouldnt want her in a padded cell afterwards.
Posted by stutter on November 13, 2008 at 4:09 PM
16
OH!!!!

and "Greg"????

@1????

public nudity SPECIFICALLY has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WHOEVER IS UNFORTUNATE ENOUGH TO SEE IT.
Posted by stutter on November 13, 2008 at 4:10 PM
17
Only hairy balls are a perversion. Since the invention of electric clippers and razors I think it should be legal to have one's balls fully exposed at all times provided they are well manicured. Any not to speak for the clothing-optional activists, but I think they'd be ecstatic to have a specially designated park where they could air out their shaved or hairy junk.
Posted by Lone Gangbanger on November 13, 2008 at 4:13 PM
18
I'm not a nudist, but all these stick-up-the-ass commenters who are MORTALLY OFFENDED by the VERY IDEA of fat, pasty naked people make me want to air out my hairy junk in public.
Posted by Greg on November 13, 2008 at 4:20 PM
19
Gawd - it's always the ones that shouldn't.
Posted by Barf on November 13, 2008 at 4:21 PM
20
As usual, the only one that I'd be even remotely interested in seeing naked was wearing not only a pair of biking shorts, but also a backpack.

Although I can't see biking naked. At least for a guy. Wouldn't your naughty bits get all beat up?
Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay on November 13, 2008 at 4:23 PM
21
I have a question.

If they aren't satisfying some sexual fetish, what motivates them so? Why do they want this so badly if not driven by a powerful lust? Seems like they could just get a different hobby if it wasn't a fetish that could accept no substitutes.
Posted by elenchos on November 13, 2008 at 4:26 PM
22
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz - no news at all

cheap thrills for some one, or some thing like that

prudes abound, let's just call it

my mom had great big tits and quite often worked around the house with no top, so fucking what?

her house, and tits are natural, she had a great quote about feeding her three babies so well cause that is what they are for

you prudes need to choke a bit on big tits or big hard dick, do wonders for your viewpoint, not mom or dads ...
Posted by Prudes fuck off on November 13, 2008 at 4:44 PM
23
@9 Couldn't help visualizing a park full of old nekkid men chasing frisbees, sniffing each other's asses, lifting their legs on trees...

So yeah, thanks a lot. Not.
Posted by banjoboy on November 13, 2008 at 4:52 PM
24
Balls, hot. Vaginas, not. And hairy balls - the hottest. I have nothing against vaginas. In fact, quite a few friends, coworkers and members of my family have one. Some may see them as the source of universal godforce, but hot, no. Now tits - tits can be hot. But balls are still hotter.
Posted by Teabagger on November 13, 2008 at 5:23 PM
25
Hitler was a committed nudist. Ahmadinejad is the new Hitler. Therefore, nudism is a liberal plot to destroy Israel and launch a new Holocaust. Q.E.D., bitches!
Posted by John Bailo on November 13, 2008 at 5:43 PM
26
@18,

For the record, I've usually been bemused or at least indifferent the few times I've run into these folks. It's not the nudity or the grossness of their bodies that bothers me, it's their sense of entitlement, and also my suspicion that some of them do this as a show of exhibitionism or to offend other people.
Posted by keshmeshi on November 13, 2008 at 5:56 PM
27
Eli, my 5-year-old says, "Riding bikes with no cloths is dangerious!!" So pay attention!!
Posted by Eli's Dad on November 13, 2008 at 6:02 PM
28
Um, some of them are....a bit saggy. What if something dangle-y gets caught int the spokes or chain? Doesn't the vinyl seat chafe or at the very least stick to bare skin?
Posted by Y.F. on November 13, 2008 at 6:34 PM
29
"her house, and tits are natural"

hmmm. Her house is "natural", eh? Sounds like hippyspeak for one of those dusty places that smells like cat piss and spilled bong water.

Thanks, but no thanks. I'll take clean over "natural" any day. As far as tits, wear a bra, and they won't sag, no matter how many kids you nurse.

Posted by Big Busted Granny on November 13, 2008 at 8:13 PM
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#29

sure granny - you are a know it all - immaculate house, faithful to a strict church and hubby - three wunderkind kids

no pets in the house, ever

take all you preconceptions and start over

not an expert on tits, but your saggies are from bad genes ... fat ... and lack of exercise ... oh, well
Posted by Prudes go away on November 13, 2008 at 8:24 PM
31
@21, I think people have different motives. From my (limited) experience at Wreck Beach in Vancouver, I can say that being naked in public can feel incredibly good and kind of shame-banishing, I guess. It's nice to be around such a wide variety of people who feel comfortable in their bodies.

There was definitely a contingent of show-offs, but they were gorgeous, so who cares? The only truly creepy people were the voyeurs who refused to get naked like the rest of us.

That said, I can't fathom why you'd want to do this all over the city, instead of at one well-known park or beach. Maybe there is something creepy about that after all.

Posted by Irena on November 13, 2008 at 8:42 PM
32
Prude, don't be such a self-righteous prick. I have four dogs and three cats, raised two kids, have been married three times (divorced twice, widowed once), and never set foot in a church once I left home.

But I know how to keep a house clean, and I listened to my mother when she told me that a well fitting bra was a big busted gal's best friend.
Posted by Big Busted Granny on November 13, 2008 at 8:48 PM
33
Whoever is not an "Exhibitionist" must be an "Inhibitionist"! Public Nudity may be offensive to some, as may be a gay or interracial couple. IF THERE"S SOMETHING YOU DON'T LIKE TO SEE, DON'T LOOK!
Posted by NUDDHA on November 17, 2008 at 1:11 PM

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