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Housekeeping Don't Make Me Turn This Slog Happy Around!
Posted by Megan Seling on Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Okay, okay, we get it! You hated the captcha and change is the worst thing in America unless it's coming from Obama. But please, children, behave. If you want to test out the new comment feature on Slog, please do so here in this open thread. And let's be nice about it, okay?
Don't test the comments in another post, unless you have something specific to say about that post. Let's at least try to stay on topic elsewhere.
So post some comments and see how you like it. And if you have any problems, questions, and/or constructive criticism about the changes, feel free to e-mail me at megan@thestranger.com. We want you to enjoy Slog, really, we do! But this is not a sandbox. Let's play nice.
Please? And thank you. I'd hate to have to take away your Slog Happy privileges.
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You're making people go through an extra step AND we're not getting registered names?
FUUUUUCK THAAAAAAT.
Watch your comment totals plummet.
FUUUUUCK THAAAAAAT.
Watch your comment totals plummet.
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How rude of us to piss all over Erica's knowledgeable post on a crafts project turning yard signs into tasteless bike baskets.
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covering my bases. still sucks big time, though. agree, comments will slow. on the other hand, os-x totally rules - i type one letter and it autofills in the next two lines and i hit return - about two extra steps for mac users - hear this - it still sucks.
10
Thanks for making the blog post and comments text sizeable by Firefox!
I can set them at my preferred large font so I can surf and post from my couch (wireless mouse and keyboard).
I can set them at my preferred large font so I can surf and post from my couch (wireless mouse and keyboard).
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Hey Poe, I was at the gym when I saw a scrolling news item about Charlie Crist's plane making an EMERGENCY LANDING earlier today. I'm glad to see you aren't in the hospital, prostrate with nerves.
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I guess the mandatory preview could act as an extra "are you SURE you want to post this comment" step and maybe cut down on the stupidness a bit? Just trying to find the silver lining here.
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@19 The reason it was slower earlier in the evening was because of a small glitch that happened in during the update. The tech boys caught it and fixed it. So it'll be nice and fast from now on.
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Oh that was weird. When I was reading these comments a second ago, they skipped from 15 to 17, hence my @33. And now 16's back. Cue twilight zone music.
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Well. Testing again. I hate captchas almost as much as I hate broccoli. Let's see if they're gone yet.
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I got a 1963 GE toaster this weekend, as well as a two burner hot plate in the original box from Sears. Not to mention a great RCA Victor alarm clock, a very Jane Mansfield-esque punchbowl, and some great Montovani albums.
I did pass up a Lady Kenmore Blender. Do you think that was a mistake? I mean, I have a million blenders, but I didn't think the Lady Kenmore brand was ever used for small appliances. Gosh, i'm conflicted....
I did pass up a Lady Kenmore Blender. Do you think that was a mistake? I mean, I have a million blenders, but I didn't think the Lady Kenmore brand was ever used for small appliances. Gosh, i'm conflicted....
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HTML tags don't work in the preview. Maybe they're broken entirely?
Test:
Bold. Italics.
Block quote.
List:
Item 1
Item 2
Dash – Ellipsis …
Test:
Bold. Italics.
Block quote.
List:
Item 1
Item 2
Dash – Ellipsis …
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I sort of enjoy the lack of registration of comments. It makes people evaluate the comments on their merits, rather than by the names attached to them (because the names are most likely lies!).
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I don't like it.
You know what I liked about the old way? It remembered me so I didn't have to re-enter my email and name.
You know what I liked about the old way? It remembered me so I didn't have to re-enter my email and name.
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Look. Two issues. One: I spent a few minutes formulating out a well-thought revision of my post which disappeared into the ether. Only my original post showed up. Lame.
Two: The "revise comments" field is half covered in ads, forcing me to type blindly without seeing what I'm writing. Also lame.
I'm not anti-change, but did you test this new system out At All before introducing it? I mean, did you test it on different platforms, using different browsers, etc? Putting such an untested system in place just makes you look like dirty hippies.
Two: The "revise comments" field is half covered in ads, forcing me to type blindly without seeing what I'm writing. Also lame.
I'm not anti-change, but did you test this new system out At All before introducing it? I mean, did you test it on different platforms, using different browsers, etc? Putting such an untested system in place just makes you look like dirty hippies.
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This sucks. Can't link my name to my blog (sullins-san.blogspot.com), extra wait for the preview, must retype name and email every time - not cool.
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People DEFINITELY hate change; I once gave a homeless man one of those Sacajawea dollars and he didn't seem too happy about it.
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Ok, trying it out in this post, this time. =) I would suggest an optional registration, though. I don't have a problem with having a captcha if you can bypass it that way, but otherwise it seems to be solving a problem that I haven't seen happening.
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Joh decides joh does not like lack of auto fill, and no linking to johs sweet pokemans fansite via namelink.
Boo.
Boo.
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why is the comment preview text so small, yet the email/display name text so freaking huge?
I detect an inconsistent design paradigm.
I detect an inconsistent design paradigm.
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this isn't too bad on firefox 3, but i miss the html formatting. sometimes i want things to be *bold*. now there will be more ALLCAPS comments.
and do we have to put the full URL for links now? www.thestranger.com
or will just thestranger.com work? it does!
and do we have to put the full URL for links now? www.thestranger.com
or will just thestranger.com work? it does!
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oh, i liked how the links used to automatically open in a new tab. i think people are going to hate this system.
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Can someone tell me how to get html to work? Or, is it not going to work at all in the new system?
bold
italics
link
blockquote
None of these things work anymore, apparently.
bold
italics
link
blockquote
None of these things work anymore, apparently.
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I still don't understand the threat of taking away blog privileges. Anyone can get around it. But I agree people are twats about the new system. I like it!
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posted by sam: I still don't understand the threat of taking away blog privileges.
hey sam, try reading for comprehension. she said 'Slog Happy', not 'Slog'. you fail at both humor and english comprehension. Slog Happy is a meeting of people who comment on Slog. regardless, it's pretty easy to see Megan was joking about taking away a public Happy Hour 'privilege'.
hey sam, try reading for comprehension. she said 'Slog Happy', not 'Slog'. you fail at both humor and english comprehension. Slog Happy is a meeting of people who comment on Slog. regardless, it's pretty easy to see Megan was joking about taking away a public Happy Hour 'privilege'.
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No blockquote anymore? How will I single out Will's most egregious idiocies for ridicule?
How about with [blockquote]square brackets?[/blockquote]
How about with [blockquote]square brackets?[/blockquote]
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OK, I call bullshit on no HTML.
I am glad I don't have to add goddamn br tags at every paragraph, though.
I am glad I don't have to add goddamn br tags at every paragraph, though.
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I'm definitely not one to bitch for the sake of bitching, but this new thing is pretty bad. We lost html abilities, linking to our own websites, and automatic remembering. And as far as I can see, gained nothing. I have to say 'Fail.' http://gurldogg.blogspot.com
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I will grant that the speed gain is dramatic, presumably because it's no longer having to check a slow third-party website for spam.
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Fnarf - you had to add br tags? I never had to do that. Huh.
How are people doing links in their comments now? I hate that the new system is revealing me for the internet-idiot I am.
How are people doing links in their comments now? I hate that the new system is revealing me for the internet-idiot I am.
183
So... RSS? Ever coming back?
Or is this a way to force everyone onto your site for the sake of ads revenue?
Or is this a way to force everyone onto your site for the sake of ads revenue?
184
If Megan's post is confusing, it's about me and Mr. Poe and Bellevue Ave going a little nuts last night. All HTML was enabled so we had a party in a couple comment threads with some music and flash and animated gifs and other weird html. Megan caught us and cleaned up after us. I'm guessing they're working to get bold and blockquotes back once they us-proof it. Thanks Megan!
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Q*bert is harassed by an assortment of enemies. "Coily" the snake appears at the top of the pyramid inside a purple ball, bouncing toward the bottom of the screen. Once he hits the bottom row of cubes, the snake springs out from inside, hopping around in pursuit of the little orange protagonist. Red balls also appear at the top of the pyramid, bringing bouncing death if they collide with Q*bert on the way down.
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@184: I still think the kitten should stay! It was totally relevant to ECB's post, too; what else're you gonna put in your bike basket?
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Okay, pros and cons of the new system.
PROS:
1. Slightly faster comment posting (IF you ignore the time used to load and fill out the preview page).
2. No accidental triple posting.
3. ...
4. Profit?
CONS:
1. No HTML. EPIC FAIL.
2. No cookies or whatever to remember commenter's name and email address. EPIC FAIL.
3. Mandatory preview page.
4. Name and email address fields switched in order from before. Confusing for regular commenters who used the old system a lot.
5. No URL box for name linking.
6. Too much gray space between comments.
PROS:
1. Slightly faster comment posting (IF you ignore the time used to load and fill out the preview page).
2. No accidental triple posting.
3. ...
4. Profit?
CONS:
1. No HTML. EPIC FAIL.
2. No cookies or whatever to remember commenter's name and email address. EPIC FAIL.
3. Mandatory preview page.
4. Name and email address fields switched in order from before. Confusing for regular commenters who used the old system a lot.
5. No URL box for name linking.
6. Too much gray space between comments.
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@183: Ok, that came off shittier than I'd intended. I understand the need for ads revenue. I just miss the RSS.
189
Megan, it's not change per se to which many people object, but the fact that, all too frequently by "change" what people really mean is, "we just threw a bunch of shit at the wall to see what would stick, without really putting much thought into whether or not these changes would actually IMPROVE the object or system being changed".
Change that makes something BETTER than it was before = GOOD
Change that completely FUBAR's something that was already working pretty well (at least from the user-end)= STOOPID
Change that makes something BETTER than it was before = GOOD
Change that completely FUBAR's something that was already working pretty well (at least from the user-end)= STOOPID
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oh dear, change. testing by an infrequent commenter.
having no html is sad. often comments provided the best links.
having no html is sad. often comments provided the best links.
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Please bring the person(s) responsible for this disaster to Slog Happy so that they can be tarred and feathered, torn limb from limb, grilled over an open fire, and fed to Mr. Poe. I will PAY MONEY to watch Mr. Poe gnaw on their bones.
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I would like to know:
When will the commenting be fixed?
When will the search function be fixed?
Where the hell is PopTart?
Aislinn @61, the speech bubbles aren't new. If I could search on here I could prove that. That change was made months ago, when they were trying out something else.
When will the commenting be fixed?
When will the search function be fixed?
Where the hell is PopTart?
Aislinn @61, the speech bubbles aren't new. If I could search on here I could prove that. That change was made months ago, when they were trying out something else.
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speed is same, number of steps is same, OS-X still kicks ass, Slog comment mechanics still suck.
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re: links - they still work, but instead of putting in tags you just type the URL and the little comment fairies figure it out:
thestranger.com
http://jointheimpact.wetpaint.com/page/S…
thestranger.com
http://jointheimpact.wetpaint.com/page/S…
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re: #199
The 1st link replaced the comments page with the link (which sucks), but the 2nd link opened a new tab in the main window (which I like).
I don't know why that is (I suck at linking), but they should keep the latter and ditch the former. At least it remembers my email now, and editing is easier.
The 1st link replaced the comments page with the link (which sucks), but the 2nd link opened a new tab in the main window (which I like).
I don't know why that is (I suck at linking), but they should keep the latter and ditch the former. At least it remembers my email now, and editing is easier.
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#202 - i prefer the links to open in another window or tab too, but all i'm doing is typing in the addresses. maybe i need to include the http so they will open in another tab - an experiment:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppies
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppies
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co…
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hence, if you put the full URL the link will open in a new tab: www.thestranger.com vs. thestranger.com
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Hey guys, you can calm down about the html and link issues. You can tell they're slowly transitioning to something like the Mercury's comment system. Hopefully. That means user registration and avatar images and html and links and even profiles where you can add Slog friends. It's pretty cool. I think they needed to make these changes that don't look like a big deal to us to make the foundation of the new system. Or maybe they just wanted to get rid of our blockquotes.
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#202 - apparently stranger links will open in the same comments window, but other sites will open in a new tab or window. at least they are for me.
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@203 - 205:
Totally inconsistent. Some of the urls open in new tabs (in Chrome) while some open in the comments tab; but using the http or www prefixes don't seem to have any relevance in terms of which open where.
Totally inconsistent. Some of the urls open in new tabs (in Chrome) while some open in the comments tab; but using the http or www prefixes don't seem to have any relevance in terms of which open where.
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what is captcha? is this something the kids do nowadays? i just got back from san francisco, which is enjoying lovely weather, which i enjoyed from my rooftop penthouse hotel room in north beach. i was chauffeured home from seatac in a towncar. in yo' FACE, bitches!
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Asteria, following any of the sample links you provided results in my browser (Firefox 3.0.3 on GNU/Linux) doing *precisely* what it should do any time I follow a link -- opens in in the current window/tab. Slog: If I want to open a link in a new tab/window, I'll middle-click or shift-click, or choose "open in new window" from a context menu. *Please* don't break this long-standing WWW convention.
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Also, when using the mobile view, following the link for a particular comment leads to some strange place.
For instance, the target for the 212 link is http://slog.thestranger.com/seattle/blog… . Following that link leads to:
« Prev
Next »
the past is another country
Posted by Samantha M. Shapiro on Thursday, February 18, 1999
In August, Immigration and Naturalization Services (INS) told Carol Alexander that they had denied the petition for citizenship which she sponsored for her son-in-law, Umberto Nicholas. They didn't say why, and when
For instance, the target for the 212 link is http://slog.thestranger.com/seattle/blog… . Following that link leads to:
« Prev
Next »
the past is another country
Posted by Samantha M. Shapiro on Thursday, February 18, 1999
In August, Immigration and Naturalization Services (INS) told Carol Alexander that they had denied the petition for citizenship which she sponsored for her son-in-law, Umberto Nicholas. They didn't say why, and when
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Man, I really hope you guys have some DIY thing and are not paying for whatever software runs Slog. This is ridiculous.
What's wrong with, say, WordPress and whatever comment plugins make it do what you need? Cost: $0. Count of people who would know how to keep it running for you: Tens of thousands.
What's wrong with, say, WordPress and whatever comment plugins make it do what you need? Cost: $0. Count of people who would know how to keep it running for you: Tens of thousands.
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wouldn't a Linux-based system have worked better?
and my this is forgetful - the old one remembered my screen name and email in Firefox ...
and my this is forgetful - the old one remembered my screen name and email in Firefox ...
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@209:
I ALWAYS take town cars home from Sea-Tac; they're the same price as a cab, and no waiting in the stinking taxi line with the other plebes. Besides, I love to see the look on people's faces when that black , tinted-window sedan pulls up at the END of the taxi line, and you step in, like you're somebody important!
I'm not of course, just smart. But, that counts for something...
I ALWAYS take town cars home from Sea-Tac; they're the same price as a cab, and no waiting in the stinking taxi line with the other plebes. Besides, I love to see the look on people's faces when that black , tinted-window sedan pulls up at the END of the taxi line, and you step in, like you're somebody important!
I'm not of course, just smart. But, that counts for something...
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captcha allows google to track comments independent of thestranger.com ... #224's going to get ads for bicycle art ... i'm going to get ads for google!
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I have no particular problem with the redesigned comment interface, but it sure would be nice if you could redirect the old URLs to the new ones. I had to add the new address in my feed reader, and I now have a bunch of broken bookmarks.
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i'm not so sure about this.
ugh. Definitely don't like it.
If I edit the comment after entering my name and e-mail address it refreshes and I have to reenter name and address. That's broken.
ugh. Definitely don't like it.
If I edit the comment after entering my name and e-mail address it refreshes and I have to reenter name and address. That's broken.
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