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      <![CDATA[If you jerk off to too much porn, you'll be too tired to go out and rape someone. Makes sense to me.
        
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      <![CDATA[Jeeze, the damn "what about the children" thing still has legs?  if your kid accidently stumbles across some porn on the internet take the oppourtunity to explain the facts of life to the kid.  They will only be traumatized if the parents act as if it should be a trauma.
        
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      <![CDATA[I love how people always bring the children in like it's a valid fucking argument.<br />
ZOMG! You're force feeding my kid porn! Even though, as the parent, I'm supposed to monitor what my child watches!<br />
ZOMG! Obama wants to show preschoolers porn!<br />
ZOMG! There's a strip club near the ball park... where CHILDREN GO!!!!<br />
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      <![CDATA[Seems like a lot of people really don't want this to be true.
        
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      <![CDATA[I wouldn't be surprised if porn availability somewhat reduced the rate of rape, but 1) I doubt it would be by much, because porn is mostly about horniness and rape is mostly about power and 2) the guy who wrote that paper is an idiot. Seriously. Read it. He says the decline in rape is "steeper than the stock market crash that lead to the Great Depression," admits only pretty stupid alternate explanations, dismisses these possible reasons without any investigation, and writes like an overeager college freshman.<br />
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      <![CDATA[Lark, I don't know if women carrying cell phones reduces rape. Women carrying guns, on the other hand, definitely does.
        
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I wonder if cell phones also have had an effect on the lowering of incidences of rape? Seriously, young women tend to carry them. I am curious if there is a correlation?<br />
        
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      <![CDATA[In many ways, <b>reporting</b> is a race.<br />
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      <![CDATA[@25 I agree that rape is about power, not sex. Lots of guys really, really, really feel they need to get laid, but they don't all go out and rape. There's issues of entitlement, disrespect, sexism, and power involved. For the record, I have a degree in Women's Studies. <br />
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I was following the "sex" route because I was addressing the issue of always connecting rape and porn in terms of causation. And those who insist on seeing those two things as having some kind of relationship are assuming that millions of horny men simply can't control themselves and need an outlet, and that outlet is either porn or forced sex. And that assumption is incorrect.
        
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      <![CDATA[All of these statistics are fucked because most rapes go unreported.
        
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      <![CDATA[@17, true, but weirdly enough the Global Average Temperature has gone down in the last couple years, and <b>the Number of Pirates has definitely gone up</b> (except for those five who drowned the other day with $3m in cash on them. oops.)  Coinky-dink?  Or proof that FSM is in fact our Lord Noodle?  I think the correlation speaks for itself.<br />
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@18:  Speaking as a man, I would argue that we <b>do</b> have an inherent need to fuck things.  But rape, as anyone with a smattering of Women's Studies can tell you, is about <b>power, not sex</b>.  Sex is used as a tool of power and aggression, and is not a result of our 'need to fuck'. <br />
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I can't explain if or why pr0n might lower rape  incidents.  I'm not sure pr0n has any bearing on rape at all.  I assume its more about education and changing cultural awareness and values.<br />
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Anyway, <b>erotica</b> is far, far better than pr0n anyway.
        
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      <![CDATA[I don't understand all this bullshit about porn causes rapping. There was rapping going on long before R. Kelly ever found those piss videos on the internets.
        
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      <![CDATA[@13 "Is the study assuming that "more internet access" equals "more porn consumption"?"<br />
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      <![CDATA[Is that a giant drop of semen in the PORN HURTS EVERYONE signage? Indicating that we all spring from spent semen, so best not watch porn so semen is salvaged and families can be born (and tricycles).<br />
        
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      <![CDATA[CORRELATION IS NOT CAUSATION<br />
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      <![CDATA[#7 - There's a joke somewhere in there about dick's putting you through college, but I'm feeling too lazy to fish it out.<br />
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      <![CDATA[I hate this argument. One does not cause the other. To think so assumes that men (since men represent the majority of rapists) have an inherent need to fuck things and that this simply cannot be quelled or ignored. It has to happen, apparently, so it's either going to happen through internet porn or through rape. <br />
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Please.<br />
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That's the same kind of thinking that believes women being out late at night are asking to be attacked. Like rape is some natural thing that just happens and it's up to us women to hide indoors or supply men with porn to get it out of their system. <br />
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      <![CDATA[I am extremely skeptical porn has any effect on rape either way. If you want to scientifically refute people who assert that porn causes rape, then point out there is no properly peer reviewed study which has withstood scrutiny to support this claim.<br />
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This seems to be a "Global Average Temperature vs. Number Of Pirates" style correlation.
        
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      <![CDATA[Ok, thats interesting, except that education and rape are also inversely correlated, and, despite all the porn, the internet is an educational tool as well.  In this case, easier access to porn also means easier access to educational materials.<br />
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While I'm sympathetic to the "Porn Reduces Rape" argument, I just dont think this casual correlation passes the smell test.  Another rape correlation is that rape and ice cream sales are inversely correlated.  This does not mean in any way that ice cream has anything to do with rape.  What it does mean is that when the summer temperatures rise, people eat more ice cream and go out at night more often, making themselves more vulnerable to attack.<br />
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    <title><![CDATA[Re: Porn Does Not Cause Rape]]></title>
    
    
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    <author><![CDATA[keshmeshi]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[That has to be the dumbest conflation of correlation and causation I've ever seen.  States with low internet access are probably poorer.  Did those states see an increase in any other violent crime?  And, it's been my experience that poor people tend to have more backwards attitudes toward women overall.  Could that have an impact on rape statistics?
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:58:31 -0800</pubDate> 
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