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      <title>Comments On: &quot;Please join me in the newsroom for a few minutes for an announcement.&quot;
    
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      <![CDATA[It's sad and terribly tragic however slamming Seattle's remaining daily, The Seattle Times, is nothing short of idiotic.  On their worst days for 100 years and more, both newspapers have been among the very best in the country.
        
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      <![CDATA[I've always preferred the P-I, ever since I moved to the PNW in '75. It always had better coverage of grisly murders, more feisty coverage of Olympia nonsense, and did a better overall job of muckraking than the Seattle Boeing-Times.<br />
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But reading some of these SLOG comments, I'm thinking that many posters are unaware or simply ignoring the fact that the quality of the P-I has been sliding for at least the past decade. Like most dailies in the US, it's been between the rock and hard place of wanting to be a real newspaper with hard news but knowing that it had to do something else to get people who love television to buy a copy. Thus, the fluff content of the P-I is enormous these days: food, fashion, sports, auto, real estate, and of course, TV--all of those sections take precedence over hard news. The staff was still capable of doing excellent work on multi-part, well-researched analytical stories on a wide range of issues, but the frequency of  such stories appearing on its pages has been declining for a long time.<br />
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There was a period in the early 1980s when the P-I regularly published an 8-12 page Sunday section of extended hard news pieces and meaty features. Freelancers were able to submit stories and get published, but the union wanted that money for its own members and stopped that practice. I view that as the best period for the P-I; it regularly ran stories that required some commitment to read.<br />
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Compare that with the last decade: lots of headlines above the fold on TV--celebs, shows, gossip. Lots of gigantic front page photos taking up space that used to contain words. Sports sports sports. On pages 2-3, reviews of world events in 2 paragraphs or less. Frustrating for long-time newspaper addicts like myself, but a reflection of online realities.<br />
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I wish it could be different, but I think bemoaning the loss of a major daily that was drowning in fluff is a waste of breath or typing. I do hope that some of the real reporters can land jobs where they can act like the watchdogs they're supposed to be, but where are those places?<br />
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      <![CDATA[just for the record, boardman wasn't running for blethen's office. frank was headed to boardman's. frank was about to talk, um frankly, with a reporter when boardman stopped him and reminded him that he was on the record.
        
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      <![CDATA[oh goodie, the wake has turned into a hair-of-the-dog bender.  It's now monday.  what happens on the weekend should stay on the weekend.  sigh.
        
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      <![CDATA[Sorry,@85, I don't see jealousy in @84. I think he/she is for the most part right.<br />
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And a bonus is of trading up from Slog to a newspaper site is the absence (mostly) of <b>random bolding</b>. (That crap insults my intelligence, as if I can't figure out the important parts of a story on my own.)
        
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      <![CDATA[@84, are you sure you didn't want to use Jealousy as your name instead of Irony? if Slog sucks, stop reading it!
        
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      <![CDATA[It is so ironic to hear Slog readers go on and on about this piece as if they've never read anything so wonderful before.  Writing exactly like this (and sometimes better) appears day after day in the Seattle Times and PI and countless other metro dailies around the nation (wasn't Eli's previous job at the Times?) and if Slog readers read it in one of those outlets, they would dismiss it as hack journalism, sentimental, over-written garbage.
        
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      <![CDATA[@67 nailed it. This is the kind of original-research story that isn't the main point of Slog, but IS the point of newspapers. As MSM outlets decline, will blogs really take on that civic role? I hope so.
        
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      <![CDATA[This was a fantastic piece.   I think it needs to be put in a vault somewhere at the Newseum, along with the hd video of the Hearst Suit twisting the knife into the guts of one hell of a dedicated and talented staff.     <br />
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In 50 years, it should be pulled out and read again.   I am hoping by then we will wonder how we put up with the corporate greed.   When the rest of the story comes out on this deal, I hope the Stranger will do another fantastic job of bringing us what actually went down in the private jets and closed rooms.<br />
        
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      <![CDATA[Agreed SKB, too many reporters somehow still believe in the history of journalism ideal of a benevolent publisher with journalistic integrity. Good Grief. The future is bright for journalism. More people consume more news now than ever before and the demand is insatiable. Reporters have valuable skills and they'll find something to do. But there is no value in newspapers delivered by oil-guzzling trucks, and there is no value in the dead tree "publishing" business. Which really seems fine. <br />
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      <![CDATA[I had a journalism instructor at Seattle U who in 1992 scoffed at the idea of computers taking the place of newspapers.  She was also an ex PI writer, one who'd won some awards.  That ought to narrow it down to just a handful to anyone with a sense of history.  Anyway, her words I remember to this day, allow me the luxury of the imperfect quote:<br />
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"Computers will never replace newspaper until I can buy a copy for a quarter then leave it on the bus when I'm done with it."<br />
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Well, you can't quite do that yet.  But you can read the news on the bus, and have been able to for a few years now.  And everything from ebay to craigslist to the Stranger cannibalized the classified -- but where was the Times and PI when this was happening? Scoffing at those scummy fringe medias probably.<br />
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I will miss Editorial Layout and I will miss Editorial Judgement.  I'll sometimes miss an omniscient reporter / editor setting the agenda for an entire readership.  But over all isn't it better right now for the reader with literally thousands of sources -- most of them interactive -- than it was in the Good Old Days when one only could buy a paper and leave it on the bus when they were finished?
        
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      <![CDATA[So, its everyone else's fault but the papers themselves.<br />
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To 77:<br />
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Newmark, that evil fellow, for figuring out his email list of web sites he thought were good was such an industry killer in 1994 - 1995.  <br />
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TV! yes, and radio before it.<br />
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Those schools.  Taught by the same union members most in the newspaper business eagerly support.  So how many educators now will be hiring ex PI staffers for substitute teacher gigs?<br />
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And most of all those evil corporate suits that want to make a profit but had no idea how once you took away the "little nickel" and sex ads function of the daily paper.<br />
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See, every argument made is just not a credible one.   Evolution is not very fun if you're a dinosaur.    But it is evolution none the less.
        
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      <![CDATA[Correction: last sentence of my earlier post should read: After all, is that not the American way?<br />
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      <![CDATA[Thanks to the fact that several generations have grown up watching television screens from the time they were able to crawl, and then stuck with television for most information, occasionally pausing to look for what in the journalistic trade is still called "features," on the Internet, the notion of buying a printed newspaper to be entertained or informed, atrophied in America. In some places such as India, newspaper readership is up, although it is in the guise of people generally seeking hard news or business-oriented features. <br />
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The main reason to get a newspaper was to see what movies were playing, or what bands or where to go eat, or in the case of The Stranger, where to go get drunk; and with ads for call girls in the back of some publications - The Stranger and Seattle Weekly - how to get serviced sexually.<br />
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The American public school system surely didn't help matters, as it essentially ceased to teach reading, writing and what was once called simply "arithmetic" to so many students. It became a race to the bottom, educationally. <br />
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When Craig Newmark, creator of Craig's List (sic) came along, and took most of the classified advertising that had been the cash cow for daily papers, the fix was in. <br />
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The empty suits at the Hearst Corporation were just along for the ride, like anyone else. They didn't create the death of daily papers, just tried to make money on them, while they could. After all, it is that not the American way?
        
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      <![CDATA[Thank you. From a soon-to-join-the-welfare-ranks P-I staffer.
        
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      <![CDATA[Quote from a P-I staffer in TFA: "More importantly, by mid-day..."<br />
It no longer surprises me that few writers write well (yes, I realize the staffer may not be a writer).<br />
<a href="http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/importantly.html">http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/import&hellip;</a><br />
        
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      <![CDATA[So, the UW <i>Daily</i> right now has one of the most mediocre editorial staffs in its recent history, and there's lots of great writers and reporters at the <i>P-I</i> who will probably need jobs in 60 days? No-brainer!<br />
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      <![CDATA[" an fuddy-duddy audience offended by the occasional use of FUCK as an exclamatory point maker"<br />
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Hey, I'm a product of English public boys school, f-bombs came 5-pence a dozen and were used with far more panache in the halls of my House that any Stranger writer could imagine. I only have a problem with the f-bomb when you read through a copy of the Stranger or Seattle Weekly and realize there's little more to it than that: f-bombs used to cover lousy writing with no reporting. But I guess some readers like it because angers their bourgeois parents.
        
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      <![CDATA[Sad story. <br />
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Sad whenever anyone loses a job. Sadder when a company goes down. Sadder still when it's part of an industry going down. <br />
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And I find myself saying, "yeah but ... "<br />
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It's great having two major newspapers in town. Good for the city. The papers keep each other on their toes. We'll likely see the quality of local reporting go down (further than it's already fallen with the many layoffs, etc).<br />
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But ... the two web sites really aren't very different from each other. The newsrooms aren't that different. The staffs aren't very different. I've worked both places (as many people have) and read both for years and years.<br />
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Having two papers is a luxury the market simply doesn't support. Things have shifted. It has happened in other industries. It the way of our economy and society. <br />
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Should we bail out this industry? You could probably make more of an argument for this industry than a lot of others. Contributions to civil discourse and engagement are immense.<br />
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But ... that's not the way our economy works (or should anyway, in my opinion, acknowledging the bailouts of the financial and auto sectors).<br />
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Which brings me to my final point. I honestly feel bad for the folks at the P-I (as I said, I hate to see anyone lose their job, company go down, industry, etc).<br />
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But ... these folks stayed with the P-I, which was fighting mightily to outspend and outlast the Times so that this very thing would happen -- except with the roles reversed. So while many, many other folks left the P-I for other papers or other industries, these folks took a gamble and stayed and fought. And now they have lost.<br />
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I respect that. And I'm saddened by this latest downturn in a lethal spiral.<br />
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To me, it's sad.<br />
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But ... not tragic.
        
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      <![CDATA[The Stranger’s audience is now set to expand…  the ball has been set, and the question is, will The Stranger spike it or let it fall?  Will it stay in the comfort zone, or expand the content quality to capture revenue generating eyeballs?<p><br />
It will not, and could not, expanded into the aging boomer market, nor into an fuddy-duddy audience offended by the occasional use of FUCK as an exclamatory point maker.  But into the educated, open minded, but aging 25-35 year old demographic.<p>  <br />
It is a market fact that consumer preferences change as folk’s age and that audience/consumers could be lost if their market needs and demands are not met.  <p><br />
The Stranger’s audience is 78% single, 79% straight, are Gen-x’s, is read by 2% more men than women.  Over half the audience graduated college,  ¾ of its audience votes.  And ¾ of the audience owns pets (an aside: why did you pay for that stat, stranger?)<p><br />
Contrast this to the PI  (JOA combined stats)…  it’s not known if the readers are married or single, straight or gay. But more of them are college educated than not.  Close to 3 times the number of its readers owns a home than rent.  More than half of its readers have a household income greater that $75k.   The PI is read by more people between the ages of 45 and death.  6% more men than women read the PI.  <p><br />
The Stranger knows that nearly 700,000 unique individuals read it online and 400,000 will grab a copy of the paper.  The PI reaches  1.4 million readers weekly, with 1 million grabbing the physical paper 5 days a week.   <p><br />
These numbers exist for one reason, to generate revenue from advertisements.  Subscription revenue for each is not a reportable figure.  I would guess at The Stranger the subscription revenue is slightly above nil and the PI it's too embarrassing to put next to the 1.9 million possible readers.<p><br />
What makes money? An interest in the content of the written word gets folks' eyeballs, but that interest alone will not keep the paper (news org) open. Neither would all the Pulitzer winners with all the best prose that ever existed, if advertisers and by extention consumers, found it to be of no value.   I doubt The Stranger could afford the cream of the PI crop of reporters (the ugly truth is, in the long haul, neither could Hearst or the PI). But, there is talent that wants to write, that want the freedom to be wordsmiths, that want to work in this market but need somesort of income.<p><br />
If it were my wish list, I would go with sports (weekly stats and some of those great first person Stranger interviews with sounder & storm players.  Those string players that are often overlooked by other organizations, but who want their name in print) (and not too mention, adult league soccer).  What does what it take to get another syndicated column or two? talent would be a start, then longterm audience appeal.<p><br />
Oh, while its on the table, how about a column targeted at that pet audience?  That’s an awful big number of eyeballs that is going to waste, isn’t it? <p>
        
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      <![CDATA[To all those congratulating Eli on his piece, and even saying it deserves a Pulitzer:<br />
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It was a fine story, but I think the reason Sloggers were so overwhelmed by it was that it did something unusual for a staff-posted Slog:<br />
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Eli actually went out and did interviews and placed how the people he wrote about first, instead of his opinions. <br />
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What he did was what reporters are supposed to do, as opposed to linking to a newspaper story that somebody else researched and then making snarky comments.<br />
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If you looked through the back issues of both The Times and The P-I for the past year, you'd see plenty more such stories, on plenty more subjects.<br />
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So perhaps this might be something for The Stranger's editors to consider. <br />
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That is, tell the staffers they can link away to the mainstream media stories, and post away with snarky comments.<br />
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But that, also, half of the time, they cannot post something unless they have left the office, done some interviews, made phone calls for independent research. <br />
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And that, after that, they let the people they're writing about tell their stories in their own words and actions.<br />
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It's kinda of a rad idea for The Stranger, I know, but look at the reaction that such a story by Eli got.<br />
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      <![CDATA[dan, remember, you can never run away from 'The Google'.
        
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