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      <![CDATA[@61,<br />
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As it happens, my mom has the converter box voucher (and the clock is ticking on the expiration date) but can't afford the rest of the cost for one of the boxes.  I just helped her out with some other expenses, and I can't at the moment, either.<br />
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You don't know who I am or what I do for other people.  Fuck you.<br />
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    <author><![CDATA[put your money where your mouth is]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[If you're worried about you parents or grandparents, go help them.<br />
If youre worried about those that have no one, then volunteer.  <br />
Bitching is worthless; take action.
        
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      <![CDATA[@57,<br />
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Now, let me get this straight.  I'm advocating for low-income seniors on a board filled with posts by Social Darwinists who would make Ronald Reagan proud and you're calling ME a Republican?  If this is where the Democratic Party is heading we're in more trouble than I thought.<br />
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Yes those awful poor folks deserve whatever they get.  Are there no prisons?  Are there no workhouses?<br />
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      <![CDATA[Good point.  I'll rush right down to the library and sit down and read the P-I.
        
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      <![CDATA[look, i don't see what the issue is.  there's always going to be haves and have-nots.  hell, there are people who can't even afford an ANALOG tv period or even housing (take a walk downtown and see how many homeless people are worried about losing their analog tv signal) much less a convertor box. <br />
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by the logic of some in this thread we should all give up progress because a small percentage of people can't afford a $70 box.  guess what, save up for it, a dollar per month and in 5 years you'll have tv.  until then, go to the library and read a newspaper.<br />
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of course if we want to make everything fair we should shut off ALL tv services and ALL internet services and go back to just radio programs until everyone in the country can afford a tv set, then afford the converter box and then afford the computer and internet connection.  <br />
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do you see how stupid that line of reasoning is?  make the switch in february and the small percentage of people who have to go without tv (oh, the horror) will catch-up one day.  sometimes a few need to fall so the majority can move forward.<br />
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oh, and television isn't a right.  it's not guaranteed in the constitution.
        
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      <![CDATA[@47 - go join Joe the Plumber in the Middle East.
        
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      <![CDATA[@44 as much as I love Daniel Miller, I don't take that song all too seriously.  People are either critical thinkers or they're not, and they either placate themselves with low-quality programming, they seek higher-quality programming, or they forego it altogether - I refuse to blame the medium itself.  <br />
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I happen to think television is a profound, brilliant, provocative, and versatile method of expression.  I don't watch the vast majority of what's on TV, but who does? Who visits the vast majority of the internet?  What someone watches or doesn't watch on TV says a lot about who they are, it says little about the medium or the art form. <br />
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now if you'll excuse me, I have to go watch the same episodes of "murder most horrid" that I've seen 15 times already.  Fernseh-overdös.  Quick. Let's watch TV. Before you die.
        
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      <![CDATA[Dominic is right.  TV was much superior in the days of The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour, Let's Make a Deal and One Day at a Time.
        
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      <![CDATA[We've got it quite easy over here in the US - I remember my father cursing and whining over something most Americans would be shocked to know even exists - an annual television licence.  in the UK, you are charged $200 or so p.a. just for the privilege of tuning it to any channel. Most European and some Asian countries are the same way.  But then again, that $200 goes to fund perhaps the highest quality range of programming in the world, pound for pound.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Case in point; Everybody Loves Raymond]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[The entire premise that free television precipitates programming that benefits the political consciousness of Americans that watch is completely unfounded.
        
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      <![CDATA[I have lived below the poverty level and TV was not something I was worried about at the time.  This is TV, not food, shelter, or heat.  This is not necessary to survival. <br />
  @46 - I don't plan on getting a seat anytime soon<br />
  @47 - Thanks for noticing.
        
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      <![CDATA[The extension request came via his transition team. The fear is the that some people's TVs will stop working shortly after Obama's inauguration.
        
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      <![CDATA[I don't mind the idea of the change...more bandwidth, etc, I get it, fine...however, I've lost stations. I once could watch KOMO, after I got the box (which is not "huge" @ #8) and I did gain a few, which I won't ever watch (sports and cooking).  Lame.  Also, the digi signal disappears often, momentarily if it's windy or a bus drives past or sometimes just altogether for a few minutes/hours.  Again, lame.  SO...now I will need to spend more $$ on buying another antenna of some sort.  Or cable...whats $14 a month for Basic when before the channels I watched were FREE?  Thanks capitalism.  And who's on the hook for the gov't subsidy of these boxes?  TAXPAYERS...I find it hard (but not shocking) to believe we are asked to pay for these boxes, out of pocket or via tax money (no matter the cost) when it's the TV stations that need us to watch their lame assed adverts to pay their bills and make them $$.  If not one is watching then they miss out on market share, so why are we responsible for having to figure out a way to watch their ads?  Sure...I don't have to watch TV ever...yeah yeah yeah...
        
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      <![CDATA[The real problem was getting rid of the Fairness Doctrine, you know. If we still had that, we'd all want a TV and we'd want everyone else to have one too.  I wonder if Obama could actually undo what Reagan did?
        
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      <![CDATA[In 2006, 9.4 % of seniors had incomes below the poverty line (this was 12.6% for all citizens).<br />
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I stand corrected - you're just a callous elitist asshole.  <br />
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      <![CDATA[@36 do the math, what is the number of "poor" that equals your percentage? 2007 rate of poor families are 7.6 million...thats about 380000 families. I think you've been riding your bike w/o a saddle for too long.
        
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      <![CDATA[personally, i'm looking forward to the abandonment of the analog TV spectrum - it could make for a golden age of pirate TV.
        
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      <![CDATA[TV addicts = sad bastards.<br />
Boo hoo. People have to pay more to mainline junk into their eyes. Maybe they will have to start thinking for a change.<br />
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      <![CDATA[Paying $50 for a month of basic cable is a good investment for people who can't afford to go to the movies, buy DVDs, buy books, or go to concerts, and who don't have easy access to a library.  And paying less than $2 a day on a minor luxury isn't what makes poor people poor.  Getting paid shit wages with no benefits and few government and charitable resources is what makes poor people poor.
        
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      <![CDATA[This is such a non-issue.  Someone's gonna help granny set her tv up.  The "welfare-rich" are going to continue to pay for cable with the taxpayers' help.  This is like the whole hype over Y2K.  When February 16th rolls around, society as we know it is NOT going to come to a screaming halt.  Everyone breathe deeply and repeat after me:  NON-ISSUE.
        
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      <![CDATA[@38 -You're not calling me young, are you?
        
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      <![CDATA[Mmmm... rice and beans. It's what's for dinner.<br />
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    <author><![CDATA[Will in Seattle]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[@38 - this is why I posted the other thing about rice and beans.<br />
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Seriously, buy a honking big bag of rice and a honking big bag of beans.
        
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    <pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:47:22 -0800</pubDate> 
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    <author><![CDATA[Whose airwaves?  Um, not ours anymore.]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Oh, just to restore some perspective to the callow elitist young assholes posting here - $20 is a practically the monthly food budget for a whole lot of senior citizens in this country.  <br />
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For one personal example, I know seniors who heat water on the stove using electricity instead of running it from the tap because they can't afford the gas bill.<br />
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Fuck you.<br />
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    <pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:45:07 -0800</pubDate> 
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