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      <![CDATA[Yeah, John Steinbeck and Mark Twain had the paparazzi beating down their doors....now put on your thinking cap and try harder:)
        
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      <![CDATA[jrrl, I'm pretty sure none of those celebrities wants their kids to be killed by their own guard dogs.
        
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      <![CDATA[@36, Um, you realize most of those celebrities have pit bulls because celebrities get stalkers and pit bulls are the best legal animals for killing unannounced visitors, right?  That's like saying alligators are great pets because kings put them in their castle moats.
        
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      <![CDATA[LOL @35! I would like to add that they also require less thought and are therefore more energy-efficient.
        
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      <![CDATA[@8: I have to post this AGAIN?<br />
Famous Pit Bull Owners Past & Present:<br />
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Jon Stewart of the Daily Show (notice Dan didn't get invited on when he did all those other shows in NY...hee hee) FABB is trying to get him as our spokesperson for next year on PB awareness day:)<br />
John Steinbeck<br />
Jessica Biel<br />
Madonna<br />
Pink<br />
Julian Schaebel<br />
RainnWilson & wife Holiday Reinhorn<br />
Jessica Alba<br />
Woodrow Wilson <br />
Rachael Ray (coner of Modern dog this month)<br />
Jimmy Carter<br />
Rick Springfield<br />
Ira Glass<br />
Orlando Bloom<br />
Tameka Dixon of the WNBA<br />
Mel Brooks<br />
Fred Adstair<br />
Ceasar Milian<br />
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P.S. Pit Bulls made the cover of S.I.  this month with a story of how 48 of 49 of douche bag Vick's dogs were rehabbed!!!!!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!<br />
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For a complete list of celeb pitties visit  <a href="http://www.fabbseattle.org/">www.FabbSeattle.org</a><br />
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P.S. Derek...you rock! Is that Derek from Magnuson with Ellie?
        
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Please, please please quit comparing people's varying attitudes to different breeds of dog (look up the word "breed" if you don't understand what this word means in this context) to their attitudes towards humans of differing ethnicities.  Human "races" are not even remotely analogous to dog breeds.
        
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      <![CDATA[@32; You're right once again Max; black males are just a subset. We need to ban all blacks -- male, female, young and old. And as 31 points out, we need to extend that ban to other ethnicities as well. Good points all!
        
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      <![CDATA[@22: i never said black males. black males are a subset of the larger group. there's plenty of irresponsible young males of all ethnicities who neglect & abuse pit bulls.
        
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      <![CDATA[@ 22 - The alleged 18 yr old shooter at Chop Suey is named Carlos Bernandez.  I haven't seen any pics of him yet, but I'm guessing he's not black.
        
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      <![CDATA[<i>The Stranger</i> wants license to be mean, hateful, and bigoted, but the only targets they can get away with attacking are pit bulls, fat people, and sometimes Christians.  The best way to get them to hit pit bulls less would be to offer up more groups they are free to hate.
        
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      <![CDATA[@26 - I pretty much agree with what you're saying, but in @16's defense, I think that he/she was just pointing out that not all dogs are suitable for all owners, and that some breeds require owners with a different set of skills and tolerances.  Not only is that not a particularly inflammatory statement; it is, in fact, precisely the attitude that will help us transcend this Manichean dichotomy of "ban the breed" alarmism and head-in-the-sand denial that there's any problem that requires attention.
        
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      <![CDATA[Excellent... she's being lulled into complacency.... Soon come the bitings!  I shall eat your SOUL!  (...and your toes. Mmm, love me some toes...)
        
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      <![CDATA[The sooner we arm small children with remote-control devices that set off explosives in collars of all pit bulls, the better.<br />
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      <![CDATA[@16<br />
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But Ceasar doesn't refer to them as monster dogs and would also tell you that any dog has the potential to do what you suggest with the wrong kind of training and influences.<br />
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That is my pit bull exactly. She's a big sweet baby that literally will try and comfort you when you cry (cute, but really annoying if you're trying to get a good cry in). She loves to lay next to my husband and I and will let out a big giant sigh if we don't throw an arm around her. cesar Probably would not be pleased.<br />
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I can understand someone being scared of her because of all the bullshit that the breed has had to endure, but after 5 minutes around her I can promise you will see that she's not some vicious creature. We've had people come into our home to install cable or fix something and at first they are weary of her, but by the end of the visit they want to take her home.<br />
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      <![CDATA[Either *unsubstantiated stereotype* is meant to be a pleonasm or the claim is false.  Of course in one sense stereotypes are false - if they are interpreted to mean that all instances of type instantiate the sterotypical qualities.  But of course one need not believe that to want a ban on pit-bulls.  Not every sex offender will reoffend, but we don't let them live accross the street from a grade-school.  Not every felon is going to emerge from prison with a tendency to remain felonious, but we don't let them own guns.  Lots of laws and policies are based on stereotypes.  The pitbull stereotype is at least as substantiated as these sorts of stereotypes are, and when it comes right down to it we are talking about owning a dog, not basic rights like freedom of travel, freedom to chose where you live, and the right to own a gun.  So the standard of evidence is even lower.  Pit-bull owners really have no argument here.
        
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      <![CDATA[Max @ 8 is right. We're talking about banning the wrong breed. We don't need to ban pit bulls, we need to ban young black males. Recent events at Chop Suey (and about 40 other locations in the CD and Rainier Valley) have proven this, no?
        
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      <![CDATA[As for owners being "surprised" their pit bulls attacked them. I dunno... may they're lying? Seems like you wouldn't want to admit to being an evil asshole dog abuser who bought a perfectly friendly dog just to kick the shit out of it until it'll attack anything it can get it's damaged little paws on.<br />
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My old dog (I know you're up in heaven, Max) was part lhassapso (I really don't know how to spell that and really don't feel like looking it up) and part poodle. He was an asshole and enjoyed biting lots of people, particularly the UPS guy. I happen to think this made him a hilarious dog, because he was tiny so watching him attack things was... well, hilarious. But really, in the grand scheme of things, HE should have been put down for being violent, not every goddamn pit bull. But because he was little and cute, he lived to ripe old age. <br />
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      <![CDATA[Behavioral characteristics are part of breeding.<br />
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For example, in the case of Dalmatians, there has to be a specific rank and hierarchy in the family, otherwise the dog becomes unruly and "accidentally violent" toward lower ranked members of the family. With children, the age threshhold is around 10, though a better behaved child of 8 can be around these dogs. They are aggressive and playful and treat subordinates as toys. <br />
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Temperment is an important characteristic when considering a breed. While a well-raised dog can be drawn away in general from its temperment, the risks inherent to willfully ignoring the latent possibility of violence or unruly behavior is a danger to owners.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[i kinda like pit bulls]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[I don't know much about this debate, only that my cousin owns a pit bull named Rocky and he is the sweetest dog in the world. He's also afraid of his own shadow. And when we walk him he is required by law to wear a muzzle and people cross the street to get away from him.<br />
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Did I mention he likes to be spooned at night?
        
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      <![CDATA[Dangerous Fuckery should be the follow-up album to Chinese Democracy.
        
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      <![CDATA[@14: Wrong. Short-coated dogs don't shed any less than long-coated dogs. DOUBLE COATED dogs as a general rule, shed more than single-coated dogs, be they short or long-haired. OTOH, I had a Dalmatian in my car for 5 minutes once and I have NEVER seen a dog shed so much in such a short time... <br />
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Short hair tends to stick in things and be harder to pick up than long hair. But either way, the amount of fur a dog sheds has little effect on dander/allergies. In general, it's thought that dogs with HAIR as opposed to FUR (IOW, dogs that must be trimmed or the coat will continue to grow, like Poodles or Bichons) are less likely to cause an allergic reaction.
        
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