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      <![CDATA[And let's talk about something else. These fun programs like BusMonster, MyBus, OneBusAway, etc. are pretty useful, aren't they? So how come these useful databases - using Metro's own technology and data! - are homebrew apps cooked up and run by third parties, rather than something Metro has integrated into their information service? Imagine if Metro's trip planner used any of this information. Of course it doesn't, because Metro's information people are incompetent, lazy morons who haven't upgraded the Goddamn website since 2000.
        
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      <![CDATA[Seattle is gay.
        
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      <![CDATA[Karl: I don't see _any_ trips marked with an "H" on the <a href="http://transit.metrokc.gov/tops/bus/schedules/s372_0_.html">372 timetable</a>. There are a bunch marked with a "D", though. Not that it matters, since it's not running anyway.
        
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      <![CDATA[Did I mention that the electronic bus schedule at the Northgate park and ride was totally frozen? As in, no bus information displayed at all, and the system clock stuck on 2 AM?
        
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      <![CDATA[#38,<br />
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you touch my suv and i'll punch your mother in the cunt
        
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      <![CDATA[Greg: If MyBus shows "No Info" for a particular trip, chances are good the bus isn't running. Normally "No Info" is caused by technical failures in the tracking system, but this week it's more likely that the buses simply don't exist.
        
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      <![CDATA[If Metro had GPS transponders on all of their buses, you'd be able to see how completely fucked the information on their web site is. For now, you'll have to wait at a stop and observe the bus not showing up even though the site says it's running.
        
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      <![CDATA["Look up the timetable for your route. Every trip marked with an "H" is canceled; other trips remain on their regular schedules."<br />
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This, sadly, is only half the solution. The 372 has SOME trips marked "H", but in fact, ALL trips are cancelled. The second sneaky stipulation: if the route doesn't operate on December 26th OR January 2nd, then it's canceled December 29th through the 31st as well. <br />
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Thanks, Metro. I love how your "rider alerts" and "holiday service alerts" conveniently neglect to mention this sneaky addition. There weren't any updated rider alerts of service notices at any of the bus stops or transit info centers I was at.<br />
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Also, they claim the Trip Planner has been updated to only give you trips that exist today, but it looks like it's still telling you that you can take the 372.
        
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      <![CDATA[That service alert has changed in the last four days, too. Check the <a href="http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:CYFxml7ONJsJ:transit.metrokc.gov/up/holidays/h-01-newyearseve.html+http://transit.metrokc.gov/up/holidays/h-01-newyearseve.html&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;gl=us&amp;client=firefox-a">Google cache</a> of how it looked on the 25th.  And if you check <a href="http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:kgaTP_INjqMJ:transit.metrokc.gov/+http://transit.metrokc.gov&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;gl=us&amp;client=firefox-a">the cache of the home page</a>, you'll see that the "Adverse Weather" alert was featured prominently, not the "Metro service - week of Dec 29" alert that's there now. So it's not like that information has been linked to in big red letters on the site for the last few weeks.<br />
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Even the alert that's there now is confusing. Try to figure out from that if the 167, 197, 205, 272, 277 and 372 are running. One section says to look in the timetable to see which trips aren't running, and another section says the route isn't running at all.
        
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      <![CDATA[Not my SUV!<br />
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I just bought it on sale from GM!
        
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      <![CDATA[Until we start overturning SUVs and Hummers on the streets and lighting them in big bonfires, nothing will change.<br />
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Grab your torches!
        
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      <![CDATA[I wonder how many people will waste time complaining to Seattle City Council about bus service when most of the impact is still due to the KING COUNTY COUNCIL allocating only 20 percent of the transit budget to Seattle bus routes from our 40 percent of taxes for the highest-ridership area of the entire county?<br />
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Want action - phone and email EVERY COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBER IN EVERY DISTRICT and complain.<br />
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And THEN do the same to every Seattle City Council member and every member of the mayor's staff.<br />
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Actions speak a lot louder than online postings.
        
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      <![CDATA[SDOT, which shovels the snow (hah!) doesn't talk to Metro. If they did, SDOT would tell Metro it had cleared, say, 10th West, a modest slope where Metro runs the #1. Then Metro could run the bus. But noooo, SDOT didn't follow its own snow plan and Metro didn't run any buses to speak of. A pox on them both.<br />
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And taking half the buses off for "maintenance"? What, because they suffered so much damage last week?
        
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      <![CDATA[What a world class transportation system we have!  Something to be proud of!
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:15:36 -0800</pubDate> 
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    <author><![CDATA[You are the new Joel Connelly]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[<blockquote>UPDATE: OK, here's how you can tell which buses aren't coming: Go to Metro's web site. (Yes, this is only a solution for those of you at your computers or with wifi-enabled mobile phones). Look up the timetable for your route. Every trip marked with an "H" is canceled; other trips remain on their regular schedules.</blockquote><br />
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I told you that at 11:33. As it says (if you follow the BIG RED LINK on the front page), "Trips marked with the letter 'H' do not operate this week."
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:10:08 -0800</pubDate> 
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      <![CDATA[@3:<br />
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Two of the first half-dozen cars I saw sliding back down E Union on the 17th were Hummers, so I wouldn't exactly point at them as being the solution vis-a-vis poor weather transit alternatives.<br />
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Plus, they make much bigger dents in your parked car when they careen into it.<br />
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@12:<br />
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We blame Californians.  Everything bad that has happened in this city in the last 20 years is a direct result of Californication.
        
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      <![CDATA[As a frequent bus rider through all neighborhoods of Seattle, I have to say that in my experience the 36 is one of the most heavily used buses during ALL times of the day. I have never known a bus route that has had to skip stops because it is over capacity on such a regular basis. It is a route that many low income families and elderly people use to to get around. Why would Metro ever reduce this heavily used route?
        
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      <![CDATA[The Metro schedules aren't worth the paper they're printed on. Whatever team of buffoons is in charge of disseminating information about bus schedules should be taken out back and shot.
        
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      <![CDATA[It all boils down to shafting the south end of Seattle.
        
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      <![CDATA[I remember, long, long ago, when I was a whippersnapper in the seventies, metro was a decent system. Now it is an incomprehensible piece of shit, an unmitigated, bureaucratic nightmare of truly Kafka-esque proportions. It is good only for trips from downtown to Capitol Hill, the U-district, the CD. Using metro to access any other part of town, or heaven forbid, any of the other communities in the metro area is nigh fucking pointless.<br />
Tear it down, lynch the current crop of imbeciles in charge, and start fresh.
        
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      <![CDATA[The previous Rider Alert was slated to be published in the buses from Thanksgiving to MLK day.  I depend on Metro to get downtown from Northgate daily.  I took note of this schedule as often my commuter hours only bus is cancelled on those "partial holidays."  Pre-snow storm, Metro had only scheduled the day after  Thanksgiving, the day after Christamas, the day after New Years day, and MLK day as "partial holiday schedule."  <br />
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I noted this morning there was a whole new Rider Alert that was two very large paragraphs telling me that everything was partial holiday.  Must have appeared over some other Metro-delcared holiday as everyone waiting for the 316 and 303 were waiting for hours with no clue this was happening.  I was an hour late to work because of the nonsense and hundreds of stranded riders at the Northgate TC.<br />
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Metro did a decent job of alerting local media of service reductions during the snow, why didn't tell call KOMO, KING, and KIRO today??
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Renee]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Try this: <a href="http://www.tapbus.com/">http://www.tapbus.com/</a> live GPS Metro info for your route and stop.
        
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      <![CDATA[Haha, was anyone else on the 70-something Express yesterday, from Campus Pkwy to downtown, around 730am, on which the one guy in the back started yelling at the other guy, "Right NOW...give it to me NOW...NOW...NOW...give me my FUCKIN'...NOW...NOW...GIVE IT TO ME...NOW...WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH YOU MOTHERFUCKER...RIGHT NOW...GIVE ME MY FUCKIN'...BEER!!!!!!"  <br />
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    <author><![CDATA[Fuck Metro and the Bus you ride on]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[What is 71's "unpublished route".  What the FUCK is an unpublished route.<br />
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And the 64H IS NOT ACCURATE PER METRO!!!(I Just called them and they said that the H does not apply for this week)<br />
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ENJOY!!!!!
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:08:42 -0800</pubDate> 
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      <![CDATA[This time I have to side with ECB. Those of you saying it was posted on the buses? Guess what, many of the routes (mine included, which isn't running at all this week) haven't run for the past 10 days.<br />
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Reduce some trips during a slow period, fine. But completely eliminating a bunch of routes (see below) doesn't meet any decent standard of service:<br />
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Routes not operating: 2 EX, 7 EX, 9, 32, 34, 45, 46, 53, 76, 77, 79, 114, 126, 133, 152, 157, 161, 162, 167, 170, 175, 191, 192, 196, 197, 201, 205, 206, 207, 208, 210, 217, 219, 237, 243, 247, 250, 256, 260, 261, 265, 266, 268, 272, 277, 291, 304, 308, 316, 355, 372, 373, 885, 886, 888, 889, 890, 891, 892, 912, 925, 935, 952, 981, 982, 984, 986, 987, 988, 989, 994, 995 & Group Health Express.<br />
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:08:02 -0800</pubDate> 
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