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      <![CDATA[this explains why my and my roomate's relationships with older women with dogs ended badly. that, or we're jerks. <br />
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      <![CDATA[This post proves what I have always suspected:<br />
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Cat owners don't care where their animals shit.<br />
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For years, neighborhood cats have been climbing my backyard fence to take a dump in my garden beds, leaving their disease-ridden, worm-studded, flea-egg laden feces where I am trying to grow vegetables. Dogs don't do this.<br />
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      <![CDATA[Fuck your "culture" to death, Mudede.
        
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      <![CDATA[@55, i'm not a philosopher nor really a writer. i'm really a cultural worker. think of a social worker; once you have grasped that figure, change the social into cultural--that's me.
        
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      <![CDATA[@ 51 - LOL.  I hear ya, but what I wrote was "too much philosophy".. I think some definite brain-warpage has occurred to our Mr Mudede, Dog only knows from what all deviant sources and arcane influences.... <br />
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@ 52 - Fair enough.  I'm-a remember you said that ("I'm not even really writer") and I might even, you know, remind you of this post of yours... from time to time... in the future.......<br />
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      <![CDATA[One thought about dog shit.  Honesly, it's like baby shit.  Initially, you think it's really gross to change diapers or to pick up dog poop.  But, once you do it enough times, it's a non-event.  Parents deal with baby shit because they have to, and dog owners deal with dog shit because they have to.   <br />
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And BTW, picking up dog shit is much less gross than when my cat peed on my bed.  That was disgusting.
        
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      <![CDATA[No one enjoys feeling the squishy heat of poo emanating through their plastic baggies warming their hands.  Everyone is embarassed by the fact that the ideal place their canine needs to lay a duce is in front of all the joggers, loaded buses and at the busiest intersections of the city instead of behind the closest bush, tree, garbage can or some other discreet location.<br />
This isnt a measure of love or canine dominance but of the need to obey the law. A law that is enforced/enacted by people who dont/do love their dog. A law that is a reinforcment of the need to somehow find a way to get along with all the other animals in the urban jungle. A need to simplify existance while still allowing others to simply exist with or without their desired choice of existential egos aka progeny, pets or hobbies.  A simple demonstration of nothing but the human need to leave something of themselves; in order to dominate time and its fleeting memory of all things urbane.
        
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      <![CDATA[@51. I'm not a philosopher. Philosophy is dead. I'm still very much alive. What I be is nothing more than a reader of good books. I'm not even really writer. I'm just a reader. I write about what I read.
        
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      <![CDATA[@43<br />
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Do not blame philosophy! I have a degree in philosophy! I've met a bunch of people with degrees in philosophy! I've known very, very few who take themselves as seriously as Mudede. And I hated them. And everybody else hated them.<br />
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I have noticed that self-educated philosophers lean more towards douchebaggery, because they haven't been forced to consider viewpoints they find uninteresting. By self-selecting the phil that interests them, they end up thinking that their own ideas are somehow new or valuable. When really, somebody already beat their idea into a pulp about 200 years ago. <br />
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Put down the books and get a damned dog! <br />
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And I say this as a cat owner! With a phil degree! LOL
        
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      <![CDATA[i pick up my dog's shit cause it's bad for the watershed if i don't. you fucking idiot.
        
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Charles - there's a fine line between clever and stupid.<br />
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Have fun cleaning up your litter box.<br />
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Oh, and #47 - backed.  I commented about that item on this twit's anti-dog post yesterday.
        
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      <![CDATA[I still can't get over the film of the dog who drags another dog off the freeway, dodging cars the whole time. One dog needed the help of another dog. And this morning the news that a robber invaded a house with a gun and the home owners dog attacked, suffering several shots while chasing away the perp. We have co-evolved with these beasts!
        
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      <![CDATA[Interesting thesis Charles.  Unfortunately you overlook people like me that don't want some creature's toilet stinking up their living quarters.  Furthermore dogs "get it".  If I tell my dog "no" he understands enough to at least look guilty when he gets in trouble, that is because he has a cerebral cortex.  <br />
 Cats take every bit as much work but have fewer pay offs. Do cat owners have a slave fetish?  Do you enjoy being dominated by a creature that could care less for you unless it happens to be hungry?  One that will watch impartially as an intruder enters your house and begins hacking at you?<br />
I'm happy to pick up poop OUTSIDE of my house and take my dog for walks, those are the only two additional requirements of dog ownership over cats. The pay off of having a creature follow me around the house inquisitively when I vacuum, kick his dog dish and toss it in the air when he is hungry, and entertain me and my friends with his antics is well worth the trouble.  There is also the benefit that dogs are less prone to parasites than cats so they are more appropriate for households with children.
        
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      <![CDATA[Why is everyone at "The Stranger" always hatin' on dogs. I am an animal lover to the nth degree (before someone feels the need to analyze me, yes I have psychological issues routed in a paralyzing fear of abandonment) and I don't expect everyone to love animals as much as I do, but I am amazed at the level of hatred on the part of Stranger folks for dogs. Is that a Seattle thing or just a self-important hipster thing?
        
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      <![CDATA[I love all animals.  Especially with ketchup.<br />
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      <![CDATA[Sigh.<br />
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No, Charles, you are wrong, yet again.  (Is anyone paying attention to the damage caused by studying too much philosophy?  Mr. Mudede is a text-book case [pun intended].)  Dog owners in the city pick up dog poop because they are In The City!  This is what socially-conscious urban canine-owning humans do.  They also do it because it is The Law to pick up your dog's poop in The City.  That is why it is done, not so that everyone can see them doing it, not to display how basely they are "owned" by their dogs.<br />
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I can assure you that (horrors) rural dog owners do not pick up their dog's poop.  There goes your theory, shot down by a meagre handful of easily discernable facts.<br />
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Maybe you might wanna stick to these "facts" for a while there, big fella...  Hhmmm?  Maybe?<br />
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      <![CDATA[I once had to housesit for a friend of mine and part of my responsibilities were to care for an especially needy cat.  Mind you, to this day I consider that beast to be the exception that proves the rule: cats don't give a good god damn so long as you bring in food now and again and, should the need arise, provide a lap and a good scritching.<br />
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If not liking dogs makes me a sociopath, who'll be my Squeaky Fromme?
        
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      <![CDATA[Memo to all pet owners: I'm very happy that your pets give you pleasure and solace, but I don't give a shit about your pets—especially your dogs. They really are annoying as hell and they always try to attack me when I go running. STFU about them. Forever.
        
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      <![CDATA[CHARLES SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
        
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      <![CDATA[@35 In comments threads, Bush is the new Hitler.<br />
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      <![CDATA["Indeed, the Christian God is nothing but a dog owner."<br />
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Again, try to simplify your thoughts:  You Don't Like Dogs.  <br />
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      <![CDATA[What violet @27 said.  Also, my dog is an endless source of laughter in our house.  He is constantly doing something funny.  Chasing his tail, getting pissed when we won't let him on the bed, being afraid of a bug, etc.   You know all those youtube clips of funny dogs?  There's a reason for that.  Dogs are entertaining to have around...<br />
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I like to think of this in a cost/reward trade-off kind of way.  Dogs requires a bigger investment in time/resources than cats, but there is a bigger payoff (I say this as someone who's owned 4 cats, and whose parents currently have the smartest Maine Coon cat in existence).  Kids require the most investment, for (presumably) the most payoff.
        
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      <![CDATA[@32,<br />
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That emotionally crippled occupant of the White House has two dogs he reportedly adores.
        
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    <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:30:16 -0800</pubDate> 
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