http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2008/12/04/why_are_mormons_so_fucking_hom Comments On: Why Are Mormons So Fucking Homophobic? by Dan Savage en-us Copyright 2009 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:00:01 -0800 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:15:00 -0800 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Posted by Ian Wallace]]> Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:03:22 -0800 The Stranger
okay, the k chronicles already did that joke, but it was begging to be said.

i read a very compelling argument that maternal stress was a greater predictor of gay-ness than any other factor, including birth order. i wish i could remember the source, it was really interesting, because when i applied it anecdotally to mothers of people i know who are gay, it seemed to work out. and of course, under the theorem above, the more kids a gal has - ever babysit four kids at once? try it sometime - the more stress she is *likely* to be under, though it was only prolonged, unalleviated stress that was a factor, not single incidents of stress even if strung together.

lots of kids doesn't equal prolonged stress for every mom - some women genuinely want large families, love being pregnant, and enjoy the baby stage even when they have older kids to care for; my mum is like that. but if you interview ones who don't, it's interesting to count up the number of gay kids they have.

@30 - dan is #3 of 4
Posted by happyhedonist]]> Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:30:49 -0800 The Stranger I always heard it was the otherway around, your typical bitter bitching gay was deep down a frustrated washed up Mormon wannabe.
Posted by ...that's just what I heard...]]> Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:22:35 -0800 The Stranger Julie, according to Dan's writing he is indeed a third son. (Or did your bird emoticon mean you already knew that? I am so old.)
Posted by pat]]> Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:21:25 -0800 The Stranger They need a homosexual Judge to throw out their laws and tell them what to do. I think they call that dictatorship in other places.
Posted by Your Name Here]]> Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:31:42 -0800 The Stranger
Uh huh. And if civil liberties were left to the voters, many minorities would be disadvantaged.

I think you have it backwards. Democracy is not the end goal, liberty is. The best way to defend inalienable rights against the tyranny of the majority is with a representative government with checks and balances.

Democracy in and of itself is not a virtue: It is the best tool for the job, most of the time.

I don't really care if teh gayz can't get married in the Mormon Church. (Neither can I. No big.) I do care that they seem to think that it's appropriate to have the law not apply to some citizens.

Separate but equal is neither.
Posted by Lee Gibson]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:07:29 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Ariel]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:59:27 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Eric]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:53:46 -0800 The Stranger California VOTERS by a wide margin declared marriage to be between man and woman.
A single judge threw out the will of 10 million voters and substituted his personal prejudice.
The VOTERS reaffirmed their will in Prop 8.
You pick and choose who you will listen to and take one judge who agrees with you over the clearly stated two-time decision of the entire state populace.
You'll forgive us if we don't see your position as one on the moral or legal high ground but rather in a cesspool of self serving shit.
Posted by wash this]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:41:21 -0800 The Stranger
But if your mother had had a fifth son, he would have been gayer than Libberace and she would've been relieved she had one "normal" child. At least if my mother is to be believed, that would have been what happened.
Posted by Y.F.]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:38:05 -0800 The Stranger Posted by banjoboy]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:30:06 -0800 The Stranger Posted by LAH]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:48:14 -0800 The Stranger
"Mormons might argue that homosexuals started the Prop 8 unpleasantness by attempting to alter the definition of marriage."

This "redefine definition of marriage" notion is hogwash. The California constitution did not change (before Prop 8 passed); same-gender marriage *always* was legal there. The California Supreme Court just forced the government to comply with the Constitution. It is the yes-on-8 people that redefined marriage, causing the state to interfere with (some) religions -- which is supposed to be unconstitutional. We'll see what the California Supreme Court says about that in a few months. It's clear what the California legislature thinks - repeal 8. http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/12…
Posted by re-re-definition]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:47:27 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Julie in Chicago]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:09:12 -0800 The Stranger Posted by jimmy]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:03:44 -0800 The Stranger Posted by flamingbanjo]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:54:05 -0800 The Stranger
http://dearscience.org/2008/06/25/wait-w…
Posted by Jonathan Golob]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:22:50 -0800 The Stranger Posted by ellarosa]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:15:28 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Max Solomon]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:29:46 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Vince]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:26:39 -0800 The Stranger Posted by rob]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:24:29 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Karey]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:20:06 -0800 The Stranger
Natural selection doesn't select for individuals that sacrifice themselves or their children for reasons of "over-population", because the ones who cheat (breed) will do better.
Posted by STJA]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:19:41 -0800 The Stranger
Curmudgeons, bi-polars, drunks, and tweakers (in order of birth), yes, but no 'mos.
Posted by COMTE]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:05:15 -0800 The Stranger
The vast and overwhelming majority of those railing against homosexuality are themselves closeted gays.

Real men don't really care that much - just less competition (if male) or more hot threesomes (if female).

Seriously, that's the general attitude out there - I grew up where most guys thought that way.
Posted by Will in Seattle]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:00:33 -0800 The Stranger