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      <![CDATA[Ecce-Homo's point should be taken at face value. Gay Parents should be every bit as neglectful and abusive as straight parents, no? I guess it's up to Dan to figure out if he travels too much. My kids fuck with me when I am out of town and make it very clear that they're not happy. This started when they were 5.
        
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      <![CDATA[Whistler is amazing, but expensive. It would take you a whole season to explore everything. If you go, talk to the folks waiting tables or working in the shops to get the inside info for current conditions. <br />
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I suspect that the snow isn't ride-able all the way down to the village this time of year, which is half the fun for me at whistler. The drive there is long, Vancouver is just past half way, and the second part is narrow and twisty and dark if at night, but they've improved it some for the games.<br />
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I use an older board this time of year when rocks and branches are exposed everywhere, but if he won the board I guess it's his to trash. <br />
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I went to Big White on Thanksgiving a few years ago, amazingly cheap and great for families with kids, not really any gay folks that I noticed. Got a condo with a fireplace that was ski in/ski out and a lift ticket for under $100/night!<br />
        
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      <![CDATA[Hey Dan,  hoping to head up this weekend myself.  What I can tell you from having been there for early openings the past 4yrs.  It is recommended to be an advanced rider.  Conditions are generally crap by Whistler standards, very few runs open, lots and lots or rocks and unmarked hazards. Trashed a board a couple of years ago on unmarked rocks, but hey that's what PTak is for!  Also ass over tea kettle (as my Gramma would say) on stump in the middle of a run.  If the kid is chomping at the bit that hard he'd be happy with a bag of ice spread across gravel.  <br />
Dean is up there now and has the inside track likely more than most, despite the shameless plug for his event  ;-)<br />
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      <![CDATA[What the fuck? All you losers who only come here to Dan-bash need to get lives and fuck off. How pathetic do you have to be to spend so much time bitching to and about someone you apparently hate so much? Man do I feel bad for your kids (if you even have any).
        
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      <![CDATA[You're one of my heroes, Dan, but please never use the sentence "Please advise" ever again. It's a redundant, passive-aggressive command that I only used to hear from dickbag salespeople with poor communications skills, but now I'm seeing it more often in common usage and it MUST be stomped out.
        
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      <![CDATA[Considering the warm temperatures we have had the conditions on the mountain were WAY better than I had anticipated.  WB's snowgoomers have done an amazing job in getting the terrain open giving us the skier a good early ski experience.  Hope you enjoy Whistler and you do have to come back in February and experience WinterPRIDE Feb. 1-8/09 <a href="http://www.gaywhistler.com/">http://www.gaywhistler.com</a> so much to do, see, and experience including the Travelocity "Never Roam Alone Ski Guides" exclusive for WinterPRIDE will ensure that you get the most of your ski days!  Hope to see you back up here or perhaps this weekend.  Cheers, ~D
        
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      <![CDATA[Usually you're better off waiting until at least the 2nd week in December - if you want real snow, go to the Rockies in BC right around now - but very few runs will be up.
        
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      <![CDATA[@23 Stop policing other people's parenting skills. It's non of your business and do you know it's exactly 75% does Dan punches his card with you each time he is traveling for work. You are pathetic.<br />
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@ 27 Dan, I am sure you are a better parent than most. And you are doing things, important things in your life, so your kid can be proud of you. It's better having a smart, accomplished, busy parent than a stupid, looser parent that's always home. (like ecce homo)
        
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      <![CDATA[whistler is always worth it.  summer or winter, it's absolutely fabulous.  one of my best memories is skiing on the glacier in JULY!  make the trip.  have fun with your family.  i'll be up there 12/12 after i'm back from hawaii (as part of my excellent weed tour 08).
        
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      <![CDATA[Dan, I have to agree with ecce.  You're a terrible father and a horrible person.  <br />
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Oh wait, I've never met you or your son, so I have no fucking idea what kind of parent you are.  But anyone that would want to drive 8 hours and spend a bunch of money to support their child's favorite hobby must be a bad parent.  And those hardly-qualifying-as-frequent trips you spend supporting a career successful enough to allow your partner to be a full time, stay-at-home parent?  Those have got to stop.  I'm guessing CPS is on their way to your house as we speak, so you better hit the road for Whistler soon.
        
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      <![CDATA[Ok I'm confused Dan. Why is snowboarding camp during the summer? Do you ship him off to Argentina or something?
        
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      <![CDATA[Ecce, the only way you could possibly know where Dan's spending "almost 75%" of his time is if you were actively stalking him. You're not, though, right? You don't follow him around and take notes to be entered into spreadsheets later, right? Right??
        
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      <![CDATA[@10, actually, the exchange rate is very favorable and flavorful right now: 	<br />
1 U.S. dollar = 1.23139971 Canadian dollars<br />
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      <![CDATA[Have a kick-ass weekend if ya'll decide to go to Whistler, Dan!  It's gorgeous up there, and the drive is really beautiful once you pass Vancouver.  Go for it!
        
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      <![CDATA[hey ecce, just wait till the kid is old enough to be shipped off to his aunts and uncles and thousands of cousins.  then dan can be totally rid of the burden of gay parenting for weeks at a time.  it's one reason why i won't learn to snowboard.  that and being old.
        
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      <![CDATA[Are all people who have to travel for work bad parents? Or just people you hate?<br />
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And I'm going to Chicago on December 12, ecce—for two days. I hope that's okay. Perhaps a committee of gay parents should be formed, and I should submit all my travel plans to them in advance for approval.
        
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      <![CDATA["You are a degenerate who gives gay people a bad name. Your bullshit about being a parent is an embarassment to gay parents everywhere."<br />
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Dude. Make an appointment with a shrink, you projecting, web-stalking, daddy-issues sociopath. Now.
        
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      <![CDATA[so, you'll have to ride the gondola to mid mountain and then take a lift to higher elevations to ride. to get off the mountain, you'll have to take the gondola back down... which is sort of un-glamorous.<br />
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i'm about as itchy as your kid to get on the hill, but whistler is so epic and huge it's sort of a shame to go when you've got limitations on your riding. if you have the dollars and time to go again later this year, it might be worth it to get some turns in and take the edge off, but it's going to be about a 2 on the whistler 1-10.
        
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      <![CDATA[While flipping through some of the GF's take-home research for work last night (seriously, did anyone know that there was a job out there writing internal documentations about what 30-50 year old women like....for a video game company?!), I found Rachel Ray's magazine did an entire article about going Whistler in November.  I only glanced through it, but it might be worth a trek down to to the news stand.
        
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      <![CDATA[You compare a kid going to camp for a week or two in the summer to you spending almost 75% of your time out of town? <br />
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Dan, you are delusional.<br />
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Anyone who actually has experience with being a parent, and is gay, recognizes your shallow patronage for what it is. You pay lip service, but you are really just a publicity hound making money off of the perception that you are the average gay parent/family. Well guess what.<br />
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Most of US spend real time with our kids. We don't trot them out as a way to make us famous, self important, or to justify our normalcy. <br />
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You are a degenerate who gives gay people a bad name. Your bullshit about being a parent is an embarassment to gay parents everywhere.<br />
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But hey, go ahead and compare all of that to a snowboarding camp.
        
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      <![CDATA[I'm in Vancouver and I've heard about 10 friends/co-workers say they're planning to head for Whistler Thurs or Friday for an opening weekend ski-fest.  They're pretty confident it'll be great snow.
        
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      <![CDATA[Oh, I was posted my last comment while Dan posted his.<br />
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I was just joshin' ya, of course.  And we're all very proud that you managed to get there all by your lonesome.  *clealy doesn't work in IT*  &gt;.&gt;<br />
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Hell, for all ecce knows you and your son sat down and looked it up together.  What a douche.
        
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