http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2008/11/25/couldn_t_happen_to_a_nicer_chu Comments On: Couldn't Happen to a Nicer Church by Dan Savage en-us Copyright 2009 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:00:01 -0800 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:00:00 -0800 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss I don't think so.
Posted by Get Real]]> Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:40:14 -0800 The Stranger
ISSUES ARE NOT CANDIDATES

this attempt to revoke tax status is dead on arrival and a vast waste of time
Posted by Louis]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:05:09 -0800 The Stranger
I still suspect most people don't know how involved LDS was in the Prop 8 campaign. Shining light on the *truth* is never a bad thing. What will be seen is what will be seen...
Posted by Ayden/VA]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:29:18 -0800 The Stranger What is the punishment? Loss of tax-exempt status and taxes on church income.

I'm a director at a non-profit, and know better than most the difference in lobbying and advocacy. The Mormom church, as well as churches that support specific candidates, are out of bounds.
Posted by robo]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:26:34 -0800 The Stranger
YOU do not understand. Non profits can spend 10 per cent of their gross income on political work.

Current IRS policy.

Pride Foundation in Seattle does limited political work, due to this ruling.

By the way, the conservatives churches are itching for this fight, they believe they enjoy TOTAL immunity from any regulations on their right to religious free speech.

That the state in not empowered to tell then how to function in ANY capacity regarding expressions of faith in all its thousands of parts.

Might be wise to let the bear sleep.
Posted by Eric]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:01:55 -0800 The Stranger
No violations, the SLC church issued messages to its members to get involved. Free speech, very protected political and religious free speech. Same shit, the press version, the Stranger uses all the time.

SLC reported the cost of sending someone to Calif. who met with the Yes folks. Good enough.

The rest happened in Calif from local folks acting on their beliefs.

By the way, there was a GIANT bunch of Christo Right folks on the yes side, had there only been Mormons, we would have won.

What is the Catholic and Evangelical vote in Calif.? Must be 20 times the Mormon vote.

Just wish we could get a grip on how poorly the No campaign was run.

Where was their 500,000 big ticket fundraiser in Seattle, NONE.

And, can you believe, their net stuff was not working well and out of date .... Jesus, sweet Jesus, save me, save us all from the incompetent. Esp. in California ... all talk, no walk.

Prediction - the Calif Court will toss the election. In the end, Lady Justice will save our sorry asses in California.
Posted by Nephi Apostate]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:55:23 -0800 The Stranger Posted by robo]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:54:12 -0800 The Stranger Posted by jackseattle]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:43:21 -0800 The Stranger Religious freedom, which is a concept that's carried out to its extremes here will trump any violation committed by the LSD church.
Posted by Fredo]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:38:59 -0800 The Stranger
Look LDS didn't really do anything terribly wrong. They paid for a supported something they believed in. They did it by broadcasting lies.

Where was everybody else? Where were the democrats? Where were the counter ads? Where were the fucking politicians who supported gay marrage to begin with? They al fucking went AWOL when they were most needed.

It is not like the LDS involvment was a surprise after the fact. Nor is it at all what LDS did. This is about what every one else, people in power, people with a voice, people with money- let them get away with. The no on prop 8 committee said themselves they got a late start.

So now we are blaming the mormons? They stood up for what they believed in. Where was everbody else?
Posted by GDC]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:38:08 -0800 The Stranger Posted by robo]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:29:47 -0800 The Stranger Posted by naive Mormon]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:03:58 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Jubilation T. Cornball]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:45:41 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Urgutha Forka]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:34:18 -0800 The Stranger
Isn't it funny how the Mormons are suddenly more infamous than Scientology for the first time in decades?

Which is not to say Scientology isn't still fucked-up cult followers of a crappy science-fiction writer, but moreso that they are no longer priority number one. Leave it to the Mormons to overshadow the nuts with more nuttiness.
Posted by Jonny Liverwerst]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:05:04 -0800 The Stranger Posted by robo]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:56:57 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Balt-O-Matt]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:29:05 -0800 The Stranger Posted by E]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:27:11 -0800 The Stranger