http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2008/11/22/today_in_traditional_marriage Comments On: Today in Traditional Marriage by Dan Savage en-us Copyright 2009 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:00:01 -0800 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:45:00 -0800 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Posted by kitschnsync]]> Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:04:33 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Yasmine]]> Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:38:27 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Divershitty is Awesome]]> Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:17:00 -0800 The Stranger
God bless America. The land of the free.
Posted by Donut]]> Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:26:45 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Bob]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:23:37 -0800 The Stranger
@16: Arabs are hot. Unless they throw you under cars. I had a guy follow me like a sad puppy when I was younger. He was very hot and Arab, and we slept together. Once.

I wasn't looking for a relationship at the time and he didn't understand that. But he was a hottie.
Posted by GayArabLover]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:20:01 -0800 The Stranger
You love Arabs.
Posted by Ahmed]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:31:53 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Balt-O-Matt]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:24:16 -0800 The Stranger
It's easy to be happy and fulfilled when you start out with low expectations.
Posted by keshmeshi]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:46:51 -0800 The Stranger Posted by PdxRitchie]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:20:06 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Sargon Bighorn]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:41:03 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Ariel]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:35:46 -0800 The Stranger
@8 Most arranged marriages are much more thought out than what you suggest and I don't think it's fair to judge them according to western standards. Certainly, they have their problems ... but the majority of couples that I know that have had arranged marriages (and that's *several*) are completely happy and fulfilled.

While this particular case is appalling, I think the post was generally culturally insensitive and unfair. I know that a lot of the arguments about the marriage question center around claims that straight couples are worse off or better off than gay couples. But to me those points don't hold much water. To me, it's simply a matter of rights.
Posted by m]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:06:18 -0800 The Stranger Posted by some guy]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:51:15 -0800 The Stranger
This is the town next door to where I grew up. One of the weird things about SE Michigan is the huge Middle Eastern population -- the largest concentration outside that region. Maybe it's because Detroit so closely resembles some of the bombed out cities in that part of the world.
Posted by Smartypants]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:51:01 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Paul In SF]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:50:25 -0800 The Stranger
On the other hand, I don't think that the point of this post is to say that this doesn't happen in gay marriages, but that straight marriages aren't all that they're generally purported to be.
Posted by TheMisanthrope]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:34:27 -0800 The Stranger In the Anderson Cooper interview, Tony Perkins mentioned some BS about comparing the banning of same sex marriage to not being able to "marry a close blood relative". I would just like to point out that marrying first cousins, along with other kinds of cousins, is legal in the majority of our states. http://marriage.about.com/cs/marriagelic…
Posted by jL]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:15:17 -0800 The Stranger Posted by xina]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:12:21 -0800 The Stranger Posted by scary tyler moore]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:10:20 -0800 The Stranger Posted by John Bailo]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:06:05 -0800 The Stranger
Collins is right on but pretty useless space as GWB aint gonna resign, duh.

But Obama could step up more. STart telling us what he's going to do. HE could tell the big 3 from Detroit this, for example:
1. get irid of your old mgt, you failed.
2. fleet cafe standard will be 45 mpg WHATev.
3. I will immediately by exec. order have all your health care costs including retirees taken over by the Congressional health care plan. Under my national defense powers. The national defense requires we have an auto industry inc ase we ever need to build tanks, and it's unfair global competition for you to have to compete with other companies abroad that have socialized health care costs. And it's dumb to let the auto industry sink when we ARE going to pass a universal health plan in my first year.
4. public ownership stake, $25 billion, new $ for infrastructure will include auto companies retooling ot build trains, etc., svarious sundry details.


He has the moral power the mandate it's time for change and what is holding this back is caution and some kind of weird etiquette that says he can't take a meeting or make a public announcement cuz that will "interfere" with the GWB Bush presidency?

WTF??

The GWB presidency should be declared bankrupt but begging and whining at GWB to do it is so weak and naive and impractical (ain't gonna happen, you think??) it's typical Democratic approach based on "we are victims, we have no power."

Stop asking permission. Lead. Change. Get on with it. Use your power. Don't obey the old etiquette rules.

Shove Bush aside now, the media will love you for it, and you can do it, our president elect.

Unity AND power--
Posted by PC]]> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:53:31 -0800 The Stranger