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      <![CDATA[Sam@20<br />
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Well said!!!  The SNL myth (was funnier in the past than now) has been repeated so many times as to almost seem a fact. But that's pop culture for ya.... Ever watched a Murphy/Piscopo era SNL? If that is funnier than a recent SNL episode I'd be surprised. Sam put it best sketch comedy is hit or miss. I guess those without a DVR/TiVo can't "mine" for gold and find the best sketches week to week. Forget Snagglepuss when is Bobby Moynihan going to bring back his homeboy waiter charachter "How can you not smell that pepper??!!!"<br />
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Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to the local bar to drink PBR and tell everyone who will listen that major label debuts are worse than their indie label predecessors, books are better than films and that communism works in theory....
        
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      <![CDATA[Some people are too easily offended. I didn't watch the whole show, but watched several clips on YouTube. They played on stereotypes, but I didn't find it offensive at all. <br />
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      <![CDATA[Wasn't Paul Rudd the guest? And didn't Timberlake make an appearence? I'm pretty straight and can attest that those two dudes fall under the straight guys man crush category. It's a real phenomena and they were just playing it up. Gay folks need to stop opressing us staights and our secret gay fantasies.
        
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      <![CDATA[Now this is just reaching. Did you think the "scared straight" sketch was about gay themes, too?
        
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There was a great sketch from 2000 or so where frat guys wished for some real lesbian action, and got exactly that. <br />
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<a href="http://snlarc.jt.org/detail.php?i=200003117">http://snlarc.jt.org/detail.php?i=200003&hellip;</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[Most of the gay sketches came off as supportive, not homophobic.  <br />
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      <![CDATA[#10 Sam&gt; No, I don't think it's just because you're straight -- because I'm gay and felt exactly the same way.  Some of it was funny because it was subversive and/or stupid; some of it wasn't because it was lazy.   Just like all SNL skits, just with a higher ratio of gay themes.  None of it was any more offensive than any other SNL sketches are -- unless you find things not being funny offensive, which is a valid argument.<br />
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      <![CDATA[I didn't think they skits were all that anti-gay.  But they were extremely not funny.  I can't think of the last SNL skit that wasn't current events or politics-related or a digital short, that I thought was funny.  I definitely have enjoyed the political/current events stuff from the past year though.
        
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      <![CDATA[The extent? It's a fucking sketch comedy show they have to find new material for every single week. I love people who complain that SNL isn't what it used to be. It's ALWAYS been this way, always waxing and waning, having high points and lows. There's a reason the put out "Best Of" DVDs. none of them have ever been perfect. People seem to have some mythological sense of awesomeness for the show back in the 70s, when all they've seen is reruns. Most of the people here were too young to fully remember the shows or grasp the jokes. Except maybe Old Man Savage.<br />
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      <![CDATA[I watch SNL some weeks and don't laugh once, but I always seem to watch. Tina Fey brought a little class back to the show when she appeared as SP. I love Snagglepuss in cartoons, but didn't find the skit very funny. Seth Meyers is one of my dream boys. I know people who know him, and they tell me he's a very, very nice guy. He's been off-the-wall almost his entire life and has traveled extensively - based in Amsterdam(!) for some time. I'd be very surprised (and very disappointed) if his intent was to offend gay people. And in the Advocate interview not once did he say, "Oh, and by the way, I'm straight," which is a good sign that he isn't worried about perception. That suggests the best kind of simpatico. I think SNL was just stooping for laughter. Loved Justin Timberlake in a jazz danskin. Would have been funnier if the other two guys in that skit were more for realz about dancing with Ms. B. Gay dancers would have been breathtakingly perfect (and JT came pretty close).
        
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      <![CDATA[Oh fer fuck's sake, Savage, the world is not against you.  Get your paranoid head out of your ass.  If you stupid queers were as good at being politically effective as you are at complaining about everything, you'd be married already.  But instead you bitch and moan, expecting that to replace the HARD WORK.  Have fun staying unmarried, queers.
        
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      <![CDATA[i didn't think it was an anti-gay show. if anything, it seemed like an eff u  response to prop 8 by giving gay characters lots of visibility. and it's not like you go to SNL for carefully nuanced chracter acting. everyone on the show is basically performing a caricature, so a show with lots of gay themed skits is going involve lots of gay stereotypes. there is so much more important shit to get offended about than "snagglepuss."
        
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      <![CDATA[I bet Garrison Keillor liked it. It's just the cartoon skit he needs to validate the same kind of humor he uses about gays who want to adopt kids.<br />
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      <![CDATA[the problem was that most of the sketches were along the lines of "look, guys kissing is funny" and "look, guys acting swishy is funny."  that was the extent of the joke.  nothing further.  it's lazy and boring.
        
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      <![CDATA[Funny, but SLOG and SNL seem to both be doing the same things...for the same shrinking audiences.<br />
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      <![CDATA[I remember being bored when I was watching it.  The kissing family sketch seemed like more of a joke amongst the cast than for an audience.  They're all like, "we're all going to kiss each other and it'll be funny because we're so uncomfortable doing it!"  Boring.
        
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      <![CDATA[I'm not convinced SNL's  habit of chronically re-hashing jokes that haven't been funny for years is the result of bad politics so much as just terrible writing.  This show has been treading water for a long time.  It may just be that this is what unfunny writers come up when they're trying to be topical  -- tired, tone-deaf sound-bite humor.   <br />
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      <![CDATA[butcha awh, ecce!  you awh a troll!
        
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      <![CDATA[I thought every sketch they had was pro-gay and mocking people for passing prop 8. Maybe that's because I'm not gay and I also don't get offended easily?
        
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