http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2008/11/20/cracked_skulls Comments On: Cracked Skulls by Dan Savage en-us Copyright 2009 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:00:01 -0800 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:15:00 -0800 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Posted by ams]]> Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:21:05 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Vince]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:00:20 -0800 The Stranger Posted by ellarosa]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:55:27 -0800 The Stranger
It's about the fact that we're all human and deserve the same rights as anyone else. Nobody on the face of this planet has the right to take those away from us.
Posted by Eric]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:21:23 -0800 The Stranger
Not to minimize Jewish suffering but... Gays were rounded up and killed in the Holocaust too
Posted by checkers1952]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:20:37 -0800 The Stranger
While some people on Slog have compared the struggle for civil rights for gays to the struggle for civil rights for African Americans, I don't see anyone doing that here, except for you and Mike Huckabee.
Posted by keshmeshi]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:59:07 -0800 The Stranger
i'm just saying that you are never going to win this argument if you continue to compare the gay civil rights experience to ANY ethnicities civil rights experience. gay isnt an ethnicity. it crosses borders, age groups, its everywhere. it should be closer tied to the womens movement.

consevative african americans are already pissed for the usage of the term civil rights. saying that gays are a group of people that have suffered as much as them wont win any of them over. they will think you are fucking crazy.

while the millions, or billions of people through the years who have been beaten, killed, or just unfairly treated for being gay should be met with justice, it is ITS OWN THING. and should NEVER be compared with the black experience, or as frank demands, the jewish experience, or as I maintain is the group here that got the worst of it, the native american experience.

and yes if gay people want to be married they should be married. of course. be as miserable as most of middle america. grow a gut. buy guns. completely assimilate until its the most boring and trite thing in the world to be gay. knock yourselves out.

and no, the government should not remove your rights as married/civil unions, and they should not make your children bastards.

i am someone that fully believes that gay rights are fundamental to our growth as a nation. and someone who fully believes that aids was spread among gays by the government. i'm as lefty-wacko as they come.

and i want your argument to WIN.

but going around saying you have suffered as much as blacks is gonna ruin your credibility.
Posted by not sorry at all.]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:44:31 -0800 The Stranger Posted by spencer]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:41:18 -0800 The Stranger Posted by pffft]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:28:26 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Betsy Ross]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:14:35 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Betsy Ross]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:11:55 -0800 The Stranger
Living together as a family unit is called "nuclear family".

Having sex exclusively with one other person is called "monogamy".

"Marriage" is, in fact, a human invention because marriage is a contract. Marriage is not monogamy and marriage is not nuclear family.

If marriage were just a "way of life" then we wouldn't even be discussing Prop 8 or gay marriage because gays could just live that way and it would be marriage. But it's not. Because the "marriage" that gays are fighting for is exactly NOT just a way of life but a set of social and legal contracts that are human inventions.

I know what you're trying to say, but it's important to be able to articulate the issues correctly. Yes - I'm a nitpicky curmudgeon. :)
Posted by pffft]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:11:14 -0800 The Stranger i acknowledge that the holocaust was a teensy bit violent as well.
Posted by a little less sorry]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:07:12 -0800 The Stranger
but this has nothing to do with what we are presently debating in this post.
Posted by stutter]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:03:13 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Frank F]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:02:44 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Betsy Ross]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:00:24 -0800 The Stranger Posted by what?]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:59:21 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Dan Savage]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:54:11 -0800 The Stranger i love you, and hate huckabee.

but unfortunately....until millions of gays have been stuffed asshole to elbow in the bottom of freezing and musty slave ships, followed by a couple of centuries of slavery, torture, and lynching....well, no. the violence threshold wont be crossed.
Posted by sorry.]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:46:20 -0800 The Stranger