http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2008/11/17/hrc Comments On: HRC by Dan Savage en-us Copyright 2009 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:00:01 -0800 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:30:00 -0800 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Posted by lorinyc]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:17:12 -0800 The Stranger Posted by jackseattle]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:00:44 -0800 The Stranger
All of you should be volunteering for ERW or some other GLBT Washington Non-profit. It's easy to stand on the side line and point a finger and bitch. It's something entirely different and MUCH HARDER to take the risks of getting involved. I'm sick and fucking tired of Gay-Americans spending energy tearing each other apart. Sometimes I think some of you are Moles for Focus on the Family trying to plant division.
Posted by Sargon Bighorn]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:24:09 -0800 The Stranger
Nothing wrong with a spectrum of choices, mind you, and there did use to be a day when having an R after your name didn't mean you were a Red Bushie who hates America.

Yes, Virginia, there used to be real fiscal conservatives in the GOP. It was long ago and far far away, of course.
Posted by Will in Seattle]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:51:05 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Giffy]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:50:17 -0800 The Stranger
Both are too busy looking at the trees (finding and supporting Republicans who don't think gays/pro-choicers should burn in hell) and completely missing the forest (Democratic control means very little chance of anti-gay or anti-choice legislation passing and a much greater chance of legislation moving the ball forward getting passed).

They want to be "non-partisan" but sorry, gay rights and choice are very partisan issues however much they pretend that isn't true.
Posted by whatwhat]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:43:48 -0800 The Stranger
They've trendily endorsed not-overtly-anti-gay Republicans over pro-gay Democrats in a futile effort to be bi-partisan and kiss ass.

See: Lincoln Chafee, Al D'Amato, Arlen Specter
Posted by whatwhat]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:38:20 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Will in Seattle]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:28:02 -0800 The Stranger

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Posted by cunei4m...I'm just saying...]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:09:54 -0800 The Stranger Posted by kylamonkey]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:17:32 -0800 The Stranger Posted by David]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:42:10 -0800 The Stranger
What I keep coming back to is the apathy. I just moved to San Francisco from Seattle and was so excited to be able to vote in this historic election. But 50% turnout in the city of San Francisco? That's inexcusable. Don't like HRC? Fine, don't donate to them. But do SOMETHING tangible. I'm so tired of listening to bitching and moaning by people who just want to get high and go dancing and assume someone else will fight their fight. If nothing else, Yes on 8 woke people up to what's going on outside our bubble.

And for the record, I've found I can donate, write letters, volunteer and still have PLENTY of time to get high and go dancing.
Posted by jericurl]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:42:05 -0800 The Stranger
I say that Dan Savage should be the next president of HRC when Solmonese's term is up. He's certainly one of the more-visible gay talking heads around. And hell, if Hilary Rosen could do the job ...
Posted by louie]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:10:08 -0800 The Stranger
Good luck, HRC. And godspeed!
Posted by Balt-O-Matt]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:04:44 -0800 The Stranger
Others on this thread have pointed out to you ways in which the HRC has contributed to the advancement of gay rights. It's not that there isn't room for criticism, but for it to come from you is a little difficult to swallow. There is little glory in doing the grindwork, but what would you know about work - your MO is to go on tv and yell and scream and play righteous indignation. You should try thinking about solutions for a change.
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Posted by George]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:57:58 -0800 The Stranger
A protest? Ooh, we're saved.
Posted by michael]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:38:02 -0800 The Stranger
I do have to say that during this election cycle i thought that HRC was extremely effective. They targeted about 20 key races across the country for senate and house seats. THESE alliances with congress and house members will be very important when we want to pass things like ENDA, and the Matthew Sheppard Hate Crimes Bill.

I think there are a lot of people sounding off right now that are not well informed and misguided in their information on HRC. Instead of working against each other like Savage, Sullivan and others, i think we should stop the infighting (are we the GOP?!) and start working together.
Posted by Chris]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:34:25 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Ellen S.]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:31:40 -0800 The Stranger Posted by The CHZA]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:29:10 -0800 The Stranger
@30 and 15 thanks!
Posted by Giffy]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:27:42 -0800 The Stranger
They talk a good game about outreach, but I'm not really sure it's happening. I've noted that Equality Maryland has several former HRC employees on staff. Somehow this doesn't make me feel better. . .

Cheers.
Posted by Balt-O-Matt]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:25:58 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Ed]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:23:09 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Dan Savage]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:19:53 -0800 The Stranger