Comments On: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon by Christopher Frizzelle http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/07/17/patty-murray-greg-nickels-dow-constantine-ross-hunter-several-seattle-city-council-members-seattle-city-council-hopeful-mike-obrien-and Comments On: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon by Christopher Frizzelle en-us Copyright 2009 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:00:01 -0800 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:30:00 -0800 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]> Posted by mark ryhder]]> Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:32:37 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]>
/sarcasm
Posted by joykiller]]> Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:11:13 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]>
Oh and there's one next to Westlake Mall already. And the International District.

No more parking for you. Stop whining.
Posted by Will in Seattle]]> Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:55:53 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]> Posted by J_in_sea]]> Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:18:06 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]> Posted by lizzie]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:44:02 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]>
There's currently a park and ride by the planned Roosevelt station. I really hope they redevelop it, as it's really stunting the growth of that neighborhood.
Posted by lizzie]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:42:42 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]> Posted by eddiew]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:38:53 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]> Posted by Lee]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:17:44 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]> Posted by paulus]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:47:43 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]>
Also, installing green, blue and white balloons on numerous light poles around the Columbia City area was a bit overkill. I stood on the yellow pump strip at the Pioneer Square station (with no train in sight) and a staffer was obligate to nicely walk over and ask me to stay off the yellow dots. Silly but well intended. Pine Street was closed and had barriers up for the huge crowds which were absent. I ended up taking the train from Pioneer Square Station to Westlake. Not a bad trip but the whole thing is pretty silly. I wish there were turnstiles and pay gates but at least the system won't cost anything to ride (on the honor system.)
Posted by first-spring]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:17:47 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]> Posted by nickelsisadumbass]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:06:19 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]> Posted by nickelsisadumbass]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:05:19 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]>
(1) the entire line has NO park & rides, nor are any planned because the City of Seattle's brain trust think they are ugly and that people should simply walk to the train stations. A single glance at Mayor Jowly will tell you that he never walks anywhere (OK, I will concede that he does walk from his car to the elevator in the City Hall parking lot...). If he did, why would he be so fat? In contrast, there are 18 Metro-designated parking lots along the Max lines within the city limits of Portland.

(2) The train station is in the middle of freakin' nowhere, on about a mile south of the airport on the far side of a 6+ lane state highway, and actually within spitting distance of Sea-Tac (population in 2008: 25,840). It's a viable option for anyone who lives downtown or somewhere along the line in South Seattle (assuming they can walk to the station...) and works at the airport, but a person would need a car to get from the Tukwila station to the valley floor where the mall and zillions of factories and warehouses are in that place that people think of when they visualize "Tukwila."
Posted by Mud Baby]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:45:25 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]> Posted by Mud Baby]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:31:40 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]>
And now he's whining about support for bikers? Well he can FUCK OFF. Why should anyone bother cooperating with such a selfish asshole like that.

Posted by critical mass is counterproductive]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:56:16 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]>
I mean, isn't that what cyclists crusade for, the ability to road-ride 5-10 miles to work? I'd buy into the trains needing better racks if they were going 30-40 miles, but the line goes about 15 miles south of town.
Posted by Gomez]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:52:40 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]> Posted by Renton Mike]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:35:03 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]> Posted by Lack Thereof]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:09:06 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]> Posted by Lack Thereof]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:07:41 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]>

This whole thing is a complete fucking joke. Period.

First there is no adequate parking, so thousands of potential riders are expected to magically agree to walk block upon blocks away to reach the train, or else they are supposed to bike to the station,....only to find that a train with an available bike rack doesn't exist.

Reality Check, you sound like the kind of individual who simultaneously believes they know more about coaching football than Mike Holmgren, more about fighting wars than Dwight Eisenhower, and more about energy than Steven Chu. That is, you apparently fashion yourself an armchair expert in everything when in fact you have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not about to say the folks at Sound Transit are the Holmgren/Eisenhower/Chu of transit planning. Not to mention, they're constrained by political realities. But they actually know their field, and you don't.

Spending a few billion dollars on a mass transit system only to focus on building park-and-rides around the stations is a monumentally boneheaded, self-defeating, what's-the-point decision akin to creating a public health insurance option and then giving it no power to negotiate. But hey, Reality Check, you're the expert at everything, so I guess there's no telling you.
Posted by cressona]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:52:22 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]>
Alternatively, many cyclists just stand in the vestibule holding their bikes, and hop off and on at each station -- less hassle than using the racks.
Posted by jmp]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:38:05 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]>
Tukwila = Les Halles,

Othello = Astor Place,

McLellan = Foggy Bottom.

Noted, asshole.


Posted by PC]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:58:12 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]> Posted by taint]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:42:00 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]> Posted by PC]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:44:59 -0700 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Patty Murray, Greg Nickels, Several Seattle City Council Members, Seattle City Council Hopeful Mike O'Brien, and Mike O'Brien's Bike All Went for a "Special Preview Ride" on Link Light Rail This Afternoon]]> Posted by stinkbug]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:42:32 -0700 The Stranger