http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/07/12/seattle-sometimes Comments On: This City Sometimes by Charles Mudede en-us Copyright 2009 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:00:01 -0800 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:15:00 -0800 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Posted by i'm pro-science and i vote]]> Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:13:21 -0700 The Stranger
Also, why does no one call the Seattle Times on their bull shit? They've been at war against urbanism and transit for years now, and you all just put up with it.

You have the newspaper and city you deserve.


Posted by markanon]]> Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:17:36 -0700 The Stranger
Still quieter than those noisy crows, though.
Posted by Will in Seattle]]> Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:54:31 -0700 The Stranger empirical, provable fact. ST has agreed to mitigate the noise somehow.

Listen, this issue is between Sound Transit and the neighbors. There is no room for you. Butt out.
Posted by Greg]]> Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:19:42 -0700 The Stranger Posted by David Sucher]]> Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:14:02 -0700 The Stranger Posted by dj007]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:31:06 -0700 The Stranger You are the guy who loves ugly concrete buildings as honest -- so step down from giving advice.
Next you'll be saying violent street assaults are very urban and smelly garbage in the city equivalent of durian. good grief.

Posted by Charles is the voice of the urban nutcase]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:01:07 -0700 The Stranger These are federal standards. Money will likely have to be spent to mitigate the noise. Your money and my money. Why would that not be news?

Because if they're Federal standards then of course they're going to do what must be done to meet them. Who doesn't?

And governing bodies spend large sums of money in more ways than you can fathom, many of which are never documented.

This is only front page "news" for the Seattle Times because Frank Blethen hates public transport using government money, and will take any opportunity to prominently slam it in his personal zine ERR newspaper.
Posted by Gomez]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:14:48 -0700 The Stranger Posted by seandr]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:01:47 -0700 The Stranger
Posted by realjournalist]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:55:21 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Baconcat]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:49:31 -0700 The Stranger
Did that sound negative? Maybe that's because all you ever do is whine about how terrible Seattle is or brag about how incredible someplace you used to live is.

Whining through 'poetry' is still whining.
Posted by Tired of Transient Whiners]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:29:42 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Y.F. Redux]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:46:22 -0700 The Stranger Posted by JesseJB]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:35:09 -0700 The Stranger
What's ridiculous is the Seattle Times making it a front page article. This isn't news... unless you're Frank Blethen and you hate public transit.
Posted by Gomez]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:33:44 -0700 The Stranger
I-5 should be quieted.

Skytrain uses a different system with no power to the wheels - LIM

Robert Moses didn't build transit, he built highways and bridges.
Posted by abc]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:54:40 -0700 The Stranger Posted by PedestrianMe]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:10:08 -0700 The Stranger Posted by brian]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:08:36 -0700 The Stranger Posted by KayElle]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:58:34 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Orin]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:52:01 -0700 The Stranger
Not this time. The noise is measurable, the complaints are reasonable, and this snotty post is more-urban-than-thou whining. Light rail must mitigate its fuckup.
Posted by Oldskool]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:32:20 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Charles Mudede]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:14:50 -0700 The Stranger
For somebody that doesn't live there to tell the people who do to just suck it up is pretty arrogant.

This issue doesn't kill the transit line- it doesn't even delay it. It just requires that there be mitigation. Why bundle your undies over that?

The fact that the complaints of the residents were met with testing that was apparently performed honestly would make me *proud* to be a resident of Seattle, if I still was.

Posted by stinky]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:59:57 -0700 The Stranger
That said, the complaints are validated by the fact that the threshold for sound has already been set (one hopes in a reasonable matter) by the government. to all of you coming down on the complainers, what would you set as the threshold? must city-dwellers allow heavy rail lines to be built next to their houses, since 'they were asking for it' by living in an urban area? Why do you get to make that decision?
Posted by devilsmoke]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:55:14 -0700 The Stranger
You get used to it. After a month or so you don't even hear it. I've lived right on light rail lines in SF for a total of 8.5 years. In both cases the train (N & J lines) ran/runs in the street right in front of my house. Where I live now, it even makes a turn and curves are louder, but workers come and lubricate the inside rail every few days with grease so it's less noisy.

I'd wager, too, that the new route in Seattle is much quieter than SF because ours were built a very long time ago.

Mostly, though, I don't hear it. After a while, your brain just blocks it out.

The diesel bus that runs on my street is louder (but the electric bus o the other route is the quietest of all, I must say).
Posted by Mike Friedman]]> Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:42:40 -0700 The Stranger